What the heck is going on

Smokeymacky · Jan 3, 2021

So this plant was doing just fine the other day I watered it and didnt check on it for a day cuz I know I have a day between watering and I came back to check on it and water again and this is what I found...... i ph at 6.5...used fox farms grow big 10ml a gallon, fox farms big bloom 60ml a gallon, cali mag with iron 8ml a gallon and I used fox farms microbe brew around 8ml also it's in veg

osowhom · Jan 3, 2021

big bloom at 60 ml? is that what it calls for i thought it was 20 ml

Smokeymacky · Jan 3, 2021

No its 60ml a gallon and I have been using that amount for multiple grows. I had this kinda thing happen on my first one I did and I messed up and gave it a double dose of grow big after two weeks of flowering and it fried the thing and I had to reveg it and let it recover and then it was fine

Smokeymacky · Jan 3, 2021

Smokeymacky said:
No its 60ml a gallon and I have been using that amount for multiple grows. I had this kinda thing happen on my first one I did and I messed up and gave it a double dose of grow big after two weeks of flowering and it fried the thing and I had to reveg it and let it recover and then it was fine

JoeBlow5823 · Jan 3, 2021

Why would you feed a vegging plant bloom nutes? You are way way way way way overfeeding. Are you in soil or hydro?

Smokeymacky · Jan 3, 2021

I'm in soil and have you read the description of the big bloom if not I'll tell you right now it's used through the entire grow. Like I said before I have used it for many grows and it works never had a problem using with autos or photos

Smokeymacky · Jan 3, 2021

Smokeymacky said:
I'm in soil and have you read the description of the big bloom if not I'll tell you right now it's used through the entire grow. Like I said before I have used it for many grows and it works never had a problem using with autos or photos

JoeBlow5823 · Jan 3, 2021

Sure but plants need nitrogen in veg. You are giving them flowering nutes. There is no nitrogen in big bloom. And either way, 60ml per gallon is crazy talk. That has to be costing you a fortune. Look into General Hydroponics. In soil the girls only need a 1/4 to 1/2 strength dose. My total nutrient cocktail is less than 20ml/gallon and you change your ratios of each nutrient based on what stage of growth you are in.

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Smokeymacky · Jan 3, 2021

Yes they need nitrogen and that's why I give the grow big that's for the veg stage and then when I'm in flower I use the tiger bloom. But as for the big bloom I literally follow the instructions on the bottle and I know that from everything I have read it says to use half the amount just based on the fact the company wants you to use as much as you can get away with just for the fact that when its gone you have to buy more but I'll look into the general hydroponics. But as for now I need to know what's going on with my girl so I can either start fixing her or trash it and start again time is of the essence in this situation cuz the long it sits the worse it gets

Smokeymacky · Jan 3, 2021

JoeBlow5823 said:
Sure but plants need nitrogen in veg. You are giving them flowering nutes. There is no nitrogen in big bloom. And either way, 60ml per gallon is crazy talk. That has to be costing you a fortune. Look into General Hydroponics. In soil the girls only need a 1/4 to 1/2 strength dose. My total nutrient cocktail is less than 20ml/gallon and you change your ratios of each nutrient based on what stage of growth you are in.

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Nice plants man looks like they are filling the space nicely

Wizzlebiz · Jan 3, 2021

Smokeymacky said:
Yes they need nitrogen and that's why I give the grow big that's for the veg stage and then when I'm in flower I use the tiger bloom. But as for the big bloom I literally follow the instructions on the bottle and I know that from everything I have read it says to use half the amount just based on the fact the company wants you to use as much as you can get away with just for the fact that when its gone you have to buy more but I'll look into the general hydroponics. But as for now I need to know what's going on with my girl so I can either start fixing her or trash it and start again time is of the essence in this situation cuz the long it sits the worse it gets

I'm just going to throw this out there.

Big bloom is the only organic offering from fox farm. Its fairly light when considering the rest of the trio.

With that said 60ml is quite high, specifically for plants at the stage your are in.

I have never used 60ml and if I ever came close it was in the middle of flower not during veg.

JoeBlow5823 · Jan 3, 2021

Smokeymacky said:
Yes they need nitrogen and that's why I give the grow big that's for the veg stage and then when I'm in flower I use the tiger bloom. But as for the big bloom I literally follow the instructions on the bottle and I know that from everything I have read it says to use half the amount just based on the fact the company wants you to use as much as you can get away with just for the fact that when its gone you have to buy more but I'll look into the general hydroponics. But as for now I need to know what's going on with my girl so I can either start fixing her or trash it and start again time is of the essence in this situation cuz the long it sits the worse it gets

Yeah im not all that familiar with the fox farms line. I would guess you have P or K burn/lockout. Most likely K. Have you grown this strain before? It might be a really light feeder. Im sure the plant can be saved, might take a while to get her healthy again though. Can you take some pictures with normal white lighting? hard to diagnose something thats all purple.

osowhom · Jan 3, 2021

Smokeymacky said:
Yes they need nitrogen and that's why I give the grow big that's for the veg stage and then when I'm in flower I use the tiger bloom. But as for the big bloom I literally follow the instructions on the bottle and I know that from everything I have read it says to use half the amount just based on the fact the company wants you to use as much as you can get away with just for the fact that when its gone you have to buy more but I'll look into the general hydroponics. But as for now I need to know what's going on with my girl so I can either start fixing her or trash it and start again time is of the essence in this situation cuz the long it sits the worse it gets

i use tiger bloom starting at the flip 20 ml per gallon 3 times a week the whole cycle but my soil already has nitrogen rich amendments

osowhom · Jan 3, 2021

JoeBlow5823 said:
Sure but plants need nitrogen in veg. You are giving them flowering nutes. There is no nitrogen in big bloom. And either way, 60ml per gallon is crazy talk. That has to be costing you a fortune. Look into General Hydroponics. In soil the girls only need a 1/4 to 1/2 strength dose. My total nutrient cocktail is less than 20ml/gallon and you change your ratios of each nutrient based on what stage of growth you are in.

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what stage are these girls in still vegging?

osowhom · Jan 3, 2021

My cocktail in flower

Smokeymacky · Jan 3, 2021

It's only one and she is in veg was just starting to think about flipping her until this happened

Smokeymacky · Jan 3, 2021

JoeBlow5823 said:
Yeah im not all that familiar with the fox farms line. I would guess you have P or K burn/lockout. Most likely K. Have you grown this strain before? It might be a really light feeder. Im sure the plant can be saved, might take a while to get her healthy again though. Can you take some pictures with normal white lighting? hard to diagnose something thats all purple.

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Smokeymacky · Jan 3, 2021

I just did a flush with ph 6.5 water no nutrients or anything just plain water ran about three gallons of water through her tested the run off and at first ph was a little lower then expected not sure what was up with that but I tested at the end and I was at 6.4 I wasnt going to fight for .1 lol so I guess I'll sit and wait.. do you have any suggestions that I could also implement into the recovery.......and also with this kinda situation when should I start reintroducing the food back to her

JoeBlow5823 · Jan 3, 2021

Smokeymacky said:
I just did a flush with ph 6.5 water no nutrients or anything just plain water ran about three gallons of water through her tested the run off and at first ph was a little lower then expected not sure what was up with that but I tested at the end and I was at 6.4 I wasnt going to fight for .1 lol so I guess I'll sit and wait.. do you have any suggestions that I could also implement into the recovery.......and also with this kinda situation when should I start reintroducing the food back to her

Oh that burple made them look so much worse than they are. As far as moving forward, just closely monitor them and then make adjustments accordingly.

Smokeymacky · Jan 3, 2021

Yeah I did notice that also sorry for the purple pics it definitely made it look alot worse. But as for getting back to feeding should I wait for the girl to get some new growth...and should I take off all the damaged growth

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