What to do?

Relax62

Active Member
So I have a text book mag def. The issue is that I seem to not be able to correct it. I have given it a dosage of epsom salt 1TBSP/ per gal the past 2 waterings. The water was ph'd to 6.7. And in between those watering I gave it a foliar feed of 1/2 tsp epsom/ per quart with a little dish soap. Why is it not getting any better? Should I flush and try again or should flush with some cal-mag solution (cal-mag is in the mail on the way)? The first picture is before my first attempt at treating it and the second picture is from more recently. Please and thank you to anyone that can please help me
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MYOB

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Maybe its not a text book mag deficiency.

If it were, that providing magnesium for the plant would solve it, no?

I would take a deep breath and relax. The plants dont look too bad. When you get the cal-mag, give it 10ml/gal. Dont "flush with cal-mag". Thats not really flushing is it?

Are you using fertilizer? What kind/how often?
 

diet coke

Active Member
They dont look big enough to be needing much food.
I used fox farm big bloom and my plants hated the extra food. I just got finished a 2 day flush and they look much better.
 

MYOB

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at 8 weeks old and 2 weeks into flowering, I would be feeding them full strength at every watering. At least feeding them at every watering.

Try upping the dosage and feeding them every watering.

They are using a lot of nutrients at this stage and probably not getting enough.
 

Relax62

Active Member
I could understand feeding a higher dosage. But feed them every watering? Even though fox farms says every other watering.
 

Dr Kynes

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I could understand feeding a higher dosage. But feed them every watering? Even though fox farms says every other watering.
if youre following the feeding schedule, you should not have any deficiencies

it could also be over-feeding, but considering the 1/3 strength, every other watering, it doesnt sound like youre following the feeding schedule. i would guess your killing them with kindness. at 8 weeks the nutrients in your soil should be good enough to last a few more weeks without adding anything, unless youre using a soilless mix.

you need to provide more info

what soil?

how much are you watering

how much grow big per gallon

how much big bloom per gallon

how much tiger bloom per gallon

when did you start feritlizing

when did the symptoms first appear

when you sprayed with epsom salts and dishsoap how much epsom salts and how much dishsoap in the solution? too much of either can damage your plant
 

Relax62

Active Member
I amusing fox farm ocean forest cut with 25% perlite. They are in 5 gal grow pouches. I started feeding them with nutes when the first deficiencies appeared which turned put to be a small N def, that was at about week 5. They get around 3/4 a gal of water, I water till I start to get good runoff. As for the nutes I just divide what the schedule says by what strength I am using and sometime have to eyeball a little. I guess one reason I'm so low on strength is because I nute burned my male (before I knew it was male) and what I have been feeding seemed to be doing fine. Then these markings appeared probably a little over a week ago. The spray is a 1/2 tsp of mg per quart of water and I just added a drop to the soap to the spray bottle. I really am grateful for any knowledge
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
I amusing fox farm ocean forest cut with 25% perlite. They are in 5 gal grow pouches. I started feeding them with nutes when the first deficiencies appeared which turned put to be a small N def, that was at about week 5. They get around 3/4 a gal of water, I water till I start to get good runoff. As for the nutes I just divide what the schedule says by what strength I am using and sometime have to eyeball a little. I guess one reason I'm so low on strength is because I nute burned my male (before I knew it was male) and what I have been feeding seemed to be doing fine. Then these markings appeared probably a little over a week ago. The spray is a 1/2 tsp of mg per quart of water and I just added a drop to the soap to the spray bottle. I really am grateful for any knowledge
at 5 weeks 5 gallons of ocean forest should be still chock full of nitrogen, i suspect you've got root rot from over watering, ocean forest holds a good amount of moisture so unless youre watering every 3-4 days, your probably drowning em.

indoors, where the sun cant evaporate the water, and the plant grows slower and transpires less, you need to use less water.

dont give them any water for several days, until you see the top droop, then water deeply and note how much water the pot soaked up, and wait for the droop again and repeat. by keeping track of how much water they are actually using, youll probably discover youre giving them 2-3 times as much as they can actually use, and the rest just grows funk on the roots.

alternately, extract one of them from her pot and look at the soil at the bottom. it's most likely a slimy mess and your roots will be brown and stinky. the solution in that case is to repot in a larger container as follows:

1 ) in a large basin or even your bathtub, prepare a lukewarm water bath (~70 degrees, it must NOT be hot)
2 ) prepare the new larger pot by filling it 1/3 of the way with fresh soil mix
3 ) extract your plant from the pot and immerse the root ball in the warm water bath
4 ) massage the roots GENTLY until the contaminated soil washes free
5 ) plant her in the new pot, and fill in, it's ok to cover some stem which was previously exposed, that area will grow roots very rapidly
6 ) water her in, and then DO NOT WATER until the pot feels light, then do not water again until the pot feels light again. (a good tip is to keep an identical pot with just soil in it to compare weights)
7 ) after several weeks watch for the foliage getting pale, thats when youll want to add fertilizers, but not before.
 

Relax62

Active Member
I do water when the soil drys. I water probably every 5 or 6 days. I kn0w the difference in weight in my pots when they are dry and when they have water.
 

Relax62

Active Member
Why say that I have all this cause I have been drowning them. But how am I drowning them when watering every 5-6 days
 
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