What type of deficiency does this appear to be? Purple/copper mild crisping

TrentSteel

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whats in your mix?
KIS pre-mix

Gaia green powerbloom top dressing

Went real light on top dressing as I felt I overfed last run, and Im running no-till reamending ROLS
 

TrentSteel

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Regardless of the issue Im assuming my best option is to finish it off without adding any NPK at this point, might give a little phosphorus solubilizing bacteria (Microbial Mass) but thats about it
 

toomp

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KIS pre-mix

Gaia green powerbloom top dressing

Went real light on top dressing as I felt I overfed last run, and Im running no-till reamending ROLS
Theres 2 types of lime and plenty bone in the soil. you probably over feed again chasing this at 8 weeks, Mine aren't drinking as much this late or feeding. I wouldnt worry about the 3 leaves.
 

PadawanWarrior

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KIS pre-mix

Gaia green powerbloom top dressing

Went real light on top dressing as I felt I overfed last run, and Im running no-till reamending ROLS
I didn't know their main place was in my my hometown area. I'm not there anymore though. Anyways are you local or did you have to get it shipped?
 

toomp

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Regardless of the issue Im assuming my best option is to finish it off without adding any NPK at this point, might give a little phosphorus solubilizing bacteria (Microbial Mass) but thats about it
yes just finish the grow up to you if you want to feed again, they are looking pretty green.
 

TrentSteel

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yes just finish the grow up to you if you want to feed again, they are looking pretty green.
Lol, sorry wrong thread definetly not feeding this plant again was talking about this one.
Does this also look like phosphorus def.? This plant seems to be stalled/stunted Im happy with the other one.
 

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PadawanWarrior

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Regardless of the issue Im assuming my best option is to finish it off without adding any NPK at this point, might give a little phosphorus solubilizing bacteria (Microbial Mass) but thats about it
You know it takes awhile to breakdown the topdressing. And adding EWC is always a good idea when you topdress. You don't have to but it helps. And EWC alone can help with a lot of issues. How much and when's the last time you topdressed?
 

TrentSteel

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You know it takes awhile to breakdown the topdressing. And adding EWC is always a good idea when you topdress. You don't have to but it helps. And EWC alone can help with a lot of issues. How much and when's the last time you topdressed?
I added ewc with all my top dressings previous runs, I just skipped it this cycle as I was worried I had overdone it last run but I now believe that was more an underwatering issue.

Im also using bokashi, malt barley flour, microbial products, and coconut water

I top dressed a week before flip and 2 weeks after that, I definetly should have went heavier and yes I know it takes time thats why Im leaning towards adding nothing and just hoping for the best this run.

If you look at my above post with pics to toomp thats the plant I was thinking of feeding not the plant in the original post.
 
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TrentSteel

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Ive heard cold temps can slow uptake of phosphorus, anyone have experience with this? I recently removed AC and replaced with intake fan now that its cold out, maybe I need to reposition it.
 

PadawanWarrior

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I added ewc with all my top dressings previous runs, I just skipped it this cycle as I was worried I had overdone it last run but I now believe that was more an underwatering issue.

Im also using bokashi, malt barley flour, microbial products, and coconut water

I top dressed a week before flip and 2 weeks after that, I definetly should have went heavier and yes I know it takes time thats why Im leaning towards adding nothing and just hoping for the best this run.

If you look at my above post with pics to toomp thats the plant I was thinking of feeding not the plant in the original post.
EWC are so mild it's really hard to burn them with it. And if the soil gets too dry adding some will kickstart the microbial action. EWC teas are good too, but more work.

If you're soil is becoming hydrophobic add a wetting agent like yucca.
 

TrentSteel

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EWC are so mild it's really hard to burn them with it. And if the soil gets too dry adding some will kickstart the microbial action. EWC teas are good too, but more work.

If you're soil is becoming hydrophobic add a wetting agent like yucca.
Ya, I do use the thermx70 almost every watering and aloe in veg.

I was doing compost tea my first run but kinda gave it up when I seen a video where even Elaine Ignham said you can get similar results just top dressing with the compost. I need to get a better airstone, than Ill brew some eventually. This is my 3rd run doing the ROLS/no-till style.

Think I brewed my teas too potent that first run and burned slightly, prob turned me off a bit. Less is more is one of my best lessons so far but apparently that bit me in the ass this run.

I followed some beefed up nutrient cycling tea recipe from a recipe book. Insect frass and another 5 ingredients or so. Most of my teas contained molasses, humic acids, sometimes fish hydrosylate
 
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