Whats going on ??

Oregonhwy101

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #1

Plants are going through somthing . Water as needed by hand using nftg no4 soil.cutting edge solutions full line. Enclosed grow running ac temps are 80° dehumidifier keeps it at 40% under 600w hps 2 weeks into flower

 

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im4satori

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #2

http://www.cuttingedgesolutions.com/hydroponic-nutrients/

is this your fertilizer?

are you using the organic line or the 3 part hydro nutes?

 

Oregonhwy101

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #3

Im using the 3 part plus all the additive plant amp mag amp uncle johns blend bullet oroof si

 

im4satori

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #4

do the labels tell the you % amounts for calcium (Ca), magnesium (Mg) and iron (Fe)for each bottle?


the amp mag.... whats it derived from and what are the % amounts for whats in it?
I assume it has magnesium, it might also have nitrogen or calcium ??

your 3 part base nutes are very very similar to the general hydroponic 3 part in NPK values

im not wasting your time.... get me the info so I can balance your mix

 

tpc_mikey

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #5

I was thinking N deficiency at first then noticed it was on newer growth, im with satori get him the % you mix is unbalanced and your either causing lock out or not getting them enough cal/mag.

 

Dynamo626

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #6

Hmmmm interveinal chlorosis rust spots forming i would guess beginnings of mag dificiency...however....hydro nures tend to be stronger than soil nutes also when using an entire line and additives usually they are overfed not deficient. Is ph maby locking mag out? Im curious as to whats up to lol. Keep us posted of your progress please

 

Oregonhwy101

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #7

im4satori said:

do the labels tell the you % amounts for calcium (Ca), magnesium (Mg) and iron (Fe)for each bottle?


the amp mag.... whats it derived from and what are the % amounts for whats in it?
I assume it has magnesium, it might also have nitrogen or calcium ??

your 3 part base nutes are very very similar to the general hydroponic 3 part in NPK values

im not wasting your time.... get me the info so I can balance your mix

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im4satori

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #8

looking at the mixing instruction they call for 5mls micro and 15mls bloom and zero grow

if hes mixing it like that hes not getting enough N (to much P) and hes likeing locking out Mg with too much K

 

Oregonhwy101

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #9

Not using the grow at this time it calls for 5 but i dont use it,in bloom

 

im4satori

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #10

its strange they call it mag amp and it doesn't list having magnesium in it

its also strange how the grow says its derived from magnesium phosphate and it also doesn't list a % for magnesium

 

im4satori

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #11

full strength per gallon

veg
grow 5mls
micro 5mls
bloom 5mls
plant amp 5mls
mag amp 5mls

bloom
grow 2mls
micro 5mls
bloom 10mls
plant amp 5mls
mag amp 5mls

 

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im4satori

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #12

for now, go ahead and feed them them my veg formula for the next 2 feedings and then switch back to my bloom formula

 

Oregonhwy101

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #13

im4satori said:

for now, go ahead and feed them them my veg formula for the next 2 feedings and then switch back to my bloom formula

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There is also plant amp and the bullet proof si plus the uncle johns blend

 

im4satori

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #14

I think theres some confusion over the products here

so theres plant amp which has calcium and theres mag amp which I assume has magnesium

do you have them both? if you have mag amp also you might use it and not need my suggestion of Epsom salt

im going to go back and edit the mixing instructions to show that as being the plant amp

the mag amp I don't see a picture for??

 

im4satori

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #15

Oregonhwy101 said:

There is also plant amp and the bullet proof si plus the uncle johns blend

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you wont use the Si or the uncle johns blend

its only adding more potassium and you've already got plenty and its likely part of your current issue

 

im4satori

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #16

ok, I see you added a picture of the mag amp

but I cant read it

whats the % amount of magnesium?
it looks like it says 1%?

btw...don't buy that again...just use Epsom salt, its the same thing

 

im4satori

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #17

full strength per gallon

veg
grow 5mls
micro 5mls
bloom 5mls
plant amp 5mls
mag amp 5mls

bloom
grow 2mls
micro 5mls
bloom 10mls
plant amp 5mls
mag amp 5mls




no uncle johns and no si

 

Oregonhwy101

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #18

im4satori said:

ok, I see you added a picture of the mag amp

but I cant read it

whats the % amount of magnesium?

btw...don't buy that again...just use Epsom salt, its the same thing

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Oregonhwy101

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #19

im4satori said:

full strength per gallon

veg
grow 5mls
micro 5mls
bloom 5mls
plant amp 5mls
mag amp 5mls

bloom
grow 2mls
micro 5mls
bloom 10mls
plant amp 5mls
mag amp 5mls




no uncle johns and no si

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Looking at the bottles suggestions are way diff then there feeding chart

 

im4satori

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• Aug 29, 2017

• #20

in the future

don't buy the mag amp, its the same thing as Epsom salt from the pharmacy or grocery store for pennies

comparatively 5mls of mag amp would be equal to 0.5 grams (1/8 tsp) Epsom salt aka magnesium sulfate