what's your favorite soil?

MyGTO2007

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what would be cheaper to buy a bunch of foxfarm soil or just to mix my own? i honestly want to mix my own, but at the same time i tend to be super lazy and i hate doing unnecessary work. plus i live in philly so there really isn't a good spot that i could make a compost heap.
Then just buy a bag of FOXFARM OCEAN FOREST and be done with it !!!!!:hump:
 

imanoob

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I only use "Canna Bio Professional Plus with Coco"
Canna Terra Professional Soil Mix comes in two types - an all round pre-fertilised soil and a truly exceptional superior soil growing medium. Specifically designed for use with Canna Terra and Canna Bio Nutrients (although exceptional results can also be achieved using Bio-Bizz or Bio Sevia nutrients), both of these soil mixes ae sure to provide fantastic results for all who use them. Canna Terra Professional is the approximate equivalent of Bio-Bizz All-Mix, having a high nutrient content as well as good structure, aeration and drainage. it is the ideal soil for many growers as little (if any) nutrient is needed until you switch your plants onto a flowering/fruiting light cycle.

Amazing stuff this:

Canna Bio Professional Plus
Canna Terra Professional Plus is something quite special that organic connoisseurs and expert growers are sure to love. Made from highest quality white peat and organic bark, Professional Plus has outstanding structure and drainage along with valuable trace elements and chelates to ensure consistently healthy growth. Having no nutrient content means that this media is for more advanced growers who can now tailor their vegetative growth for superior results.

I also bought Canna Bio Professional NOT plus just the normal stuff...I then got springtails in those plants only. They may not be too harmful...but I dont want them in my room. So i will only be using Pro Plus from now on.
 

blakkmask

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MG Organic Choice. Add extra perlite and bone meal. Feed with Alaska Fish Emulsion (5-1-1) and (0-10-10)
 

purrrrple

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Please please please do not use fox farm ocean forest. My first grow I made the mistake of using ocean forest and it was a struggle from start to finish. I'll be the first to say Fox farm makes decent products. I still love their neuts, and some of their other soils may not be bad (I refuse to give their soil another chance).


WHAT YOU SHOULD KNOW: Ocean forest has enough neuts to go from clone/seed all the way to flower. And then if you do not flush for multiple weeks when you start your flower neutrients your going to have buildup. I burned the hell out of my first plants because of the fox farm soil, I then watched multiple friends do the same thing. You cannot use this soil with the basic fox farm chart that they provide, or you WILL get nutrient burns.


Since then I have switched to Sunshine mix 8 (I add a few things but a GREAT basic grow medium)

Listen to me ok.. I have tried nearly every pre-mixed soil out there (including sunshine #8) and really nothing out there compares to FF Ocean Forest. Let me adress some of the prior comments in this post.

First and foremost, Fox Farm is a great company. I am not a HUGE fan of the nutes, but have used them before with great success. That being said, the Ocean Forest is the shit. The guy who posted the comment said he had problems with nutrient burn and buildup. LOL, DUH! We have two seperate issues here.

1. Nute burn. LOL. Well yeah your gonna get nute burn because this soil is maxed out with nutes to begin with. Ask anyone at a grow shop and they will tell you this off the bat. I dont know why this guy says it like its a bad thing. Just water the plants plain PHed water for the first few weeks and it will get you lush green growth and through the "clone/seedling stage" of growth. Once the plants begin to grow vigorously, begin adding nutes at 1/4 strength, eventually working up until you reach your plants threshold for nutrient burn. A good sign to stop adding more nutes is tip burn. This is your plants telling you "hey, this is all i can take buddy". Watch closely, and after a cycle or two you will really begin to learn your individual plants wants and needs.

2. Build up. Buildup, as in Salt Buildup, occurs when a plant is being given too high of a concentration of nutrients, and the unused nutrients dry up and literally form salt. This causes nutrient lock-out and in turn diffiencies. There are many preventative measures that can be taken to stop salt buildup before it occurs, and many ways to easily and successfully combat it once it has already set in. DISCLAIMER- YOU CAN GET BUILDUP WITHOUT OVER USING NUTES OR BURNING PLANTS. (a good way to find out is to check your PPM of water BEFORE you water your plant (while its in the res or watering can whatever), then collect the run off and test the PPM again. If your runoff is a significantly higher PPM than what your putting in.. YOU HAVE SALT BUILDUP my friend :cry:)

Preventative:
Different products like House and Garden "drip clean", and others which i cant think of now, PREVENT salt buildup from ever starting.

Combative:
Clearex. It alters the ions or some shit at a molecular level, freeing the salts and allowing your plant to begin uptaking nutrients again.

Basically in a nutshell, use nutes sparingly in the beggining, if any at all, and SLOWLY work your way up to a higher strenght. The one thing i agree with that buddy said in his post is that you will get nutrient burn from following hte FF schedule in FFOF. Very true. Most companies charts run hot, which is not suprising for obvious reasons. The more you use, the faster you have to buy a new bottle, the more money they make, DUH. That being said, the moral of the story is LESS IS ALWAYS MORE. Obviously he is over feeding and having nute burn problems. Those fking charts screw up more people than you could ever imagine. They are only a RECCOMENDATION people.

And finally, my last little nugget of information is regarding the guys post about adding perlite and other things. I dont know why one would add bat guano, the shit is loaded with nutes. Perlite is something that would be up to each individual grower, and there needs. I can tell you this, Ocean Forest does not NEED extra perlite, but it does help the soil dry out a little quicker, in turn giving more oxygen to the roots which is always a good thing. I would only reccomend adding perlite if you were on an irrigation system. If you water by hand, adding extra perlite to your mix is only going to create much more work because the plants dry up quicker. Also, watch your nutes if your going to be cutting it heavy with perlite as there is less buffer for the roots when being fed hardy nute mixes. Hope this helps boys and girls. Peace out.
 

purrrrple

Well-Known Member
I only use "Canna Bio Professional Plus with Coco"
Canna Terra Professional Soil Mix comes in two types - an all round pre-fertilised soil and a truly exceptional superior soil growing medium. Specifically designed for use with Canna Terra and Canna Bio Nutrients (although exceptional results can also be achieved using Bio-Bizz or Bio Sevia nutrients), both of these soil mixes ae sure to provide fantastic results for all who use them. Canna Terra Professional is the approximate equivalent of Bio-Bizz All-Mix, having a high nutrient content as well as good structure, aeration and drainage. it is the ideal soil for many growers as little (if any) nutrient is needed until you switch your plants onto a flowering/fruiting light cycle.

Amazing stuff this:
Canna Bio Professional Plus
Canna Terra Professional Plus is something quite special that organic connoisseurs and expert growers are sure to love. Made from highest quality white peat and organic bark, Professional Plus has outstanding structure and drainage along with valuable trace elements and chelates to ensure consistently healthy growth. Having no nutrient content means that this media is for more advanced growers who can now tailor their vegetative growth for superior results.

I also bought Canna Bio Professional NOT plus just the normal stuff...I then got springtails in those plants only. They may not be too harmful...but I dont want them in my room. So i will only be using Pro Plus from now on.

Oh yeah.. I am a FIRM AND TRUE BELIEVER IN CANNA NUTES. I love them. I've trid it all, GH, FF, Botanicare, Advanced, HG, and nothing compares IMO. I have NOT, however, used the soil or soiless mixes. I goto a shop where they stock both FF and Canna. The FF and Canna are nearly the same price but the owner and his buddies SWEAR BY IT. I stick with what i know and love, which is FFOF, but i have heard NOTHING but good things about the Canna soils. Worth a try.. would love any feedback i can get!
 
so ur saying if i use ocean forest i wont have to use any nutes at all during the vegatative growth?
Please please please do not use fox farm ocean forest. My first grow I made the mistake of using ocean forest and it was a struggle from start to finish. I'll be the first to say Fox farm makes decent products. I still love their neuts, and some of their other soils may not be bad (I refuse to give their soil another chance).


WHAT YOU SHOULD KNOW: Ocean forest has enough neuts to go from clone/seed all the way to flower. And then if you do not flush for multiple weeks when you start your flower neutrients your going to have buildup. I burned the hell out of my first plants because of the fox farm soil, I then watched multiple friends do the same thing. You cannot use this soil with the basic fox farm chart that they provide, or you WILL get nutrient burns.


Since then I have switched to Sunshine mix 8 (I add a few things but a GREAT basic grow medium)
 

mariapastor

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TheNatural

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Building my own soil from scratch is the only way for me.

I want my soil to be completely alive with all of the organisms to go along.

Quality is the most important and these are some of my ingredients for the live soil that I build.

My Soil is best......for me.

Be Blessed,

Rev. TheNatural
 

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purrrrple

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so ur saying if i use ocean forest i wont have to use any nutes at all during the vegatative growth?
If your veg period is very short, then no, you will not need to add additional nutrients. Honestly there are alot of variables that need to be taken into consideration when answering your question. Pot size, strain, etc. I would reccomend beggining a 1/4 dosage of fertilizer around the second to third week of veg. Ballpark figure man.. you should really let the plants tell you what they want.
 
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