When to flush?

qptyqpty

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I am desiring to push my plant to the furthest extent possible, and it is not ready yet imo. It has many white hairs and a lot of trichomes with very spherical drops of love. The hairs are just beginning to turn reddish-tan, I would say 2% first day, 10% second day, 12%, 15%20% approx as of today. This makes grow #3 and I believe I flushed first for 12 days, after all the hairs were brown and all trics were clear or a little cloudy. This was an incredible smoke. I dried for 14 days at 74F/42RH and cured in a clip-mason jar contraption over the period of about 2 months. The last bits were great. Gave away 4oz and kept2oz. 2nd pulled way too early due to root rot and yield 120g? trics were beginning to turn 40% amber and 60% cloudy. That was real good, but I made the mistake of only flushing for like 3 days. As a result, though the smoke was still fucking incredible, it kinda smelled like... sausages or something, because of the Superthrive that didnt get flushed. Also, I think I had sprayed liquid light/penetrator the day prior, which i believe resulted in a "waxy" mouthfeel, for lack of a better description. It was still a pleasant smoke, but it was "different" or altered tasting.
All that said, i do consider myself experienced and successful and hope to yield nearly 250-300g of Nirvana White Widow, taken care of in a loving manner and wish to cut the nutes back while still moving calcium and other necessary nutes while getting rid of the nitrate. I have had the nutes at 2200ppm, 5.6-5.8 for 2 weeks prior to dropping the nutes to 1000ppm. The plant has plumped even further to my delight, and is producing a lot of sugar. As mentioned earlier, the plant is about 20% brown hairs, but I want it to go to the end cycle now. That "last two weeks." Is there a way to induce labour? If I cut the nutes to 0ppm now, the micronutes the plant needs to continue resin production will be cut off, and thus no more production. Do I need to just minimize the nutes to maybe 500-250ppm for 2-3 more weeks, and about 3 days clear water after they reach my satisfaction? Cut it to 0 completely?

An experienced analysis would be appreciated.
 

qptyqpty

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No replies? Damn. Cut the nutes down to 900ppm. No more superthrive, no longer adding liquid light and penetrator, due to humidity concerns. Root ball takes up 2/3 20 gallon tub. Anyone who is real particular on flushing?

>99% trics are perfectly spherical, some beginning to get cloudy. I want to push them to around 60% amber, 40% cloudy. Ive taken the majority of fan leaves off to expose as much bud foliage as possible. whatever growth energy is diverted to making new leaves I do not care, it is bigger than what I was expecting, and what I was hoping for, anything else is icing. I want to force the plant to use the roots to suck up all the remaining nutes hopefully to around 250ppm. In removing leaves, there is no more amino acid smell at all. There is no chemical-ish smell either. Damn it is an incredibly fresh minty smell with a light tinge of skunk. Mmmmmm.

By the way, ill vouch for Dutch Masters with pics following the operation since past tense is better than present, ya feel me?
 

deflator

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Wow...a few things

1. CARRIAGE FUCKING RETURNS

2. Flushing is a myth, just like cutting off fan leaves, it will not do anything good for your plants. I never flush, it still tastes the same.
 

slk

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I tend to agree you can flush the roots but do you really think you can flush the buds? I don't think so.
I hate fan leaves, they block light and suck nutes. CUT THEM.
 

qptyqpty

Active Member
I dunno, I notice the plants respirate quite a bit during the dark cycle. This bush consumes 5-7 gallons of water every 2 days, so I figure it gets near there. If the buds truly use up all the nutes or not who knows.
I do know the direct difference in growing two plants side by side and the taste between one with a long flush and dry period, and a 2 day flush, 7 day dry. My experience says the more care you take in the end zone the sweeter the results.
Sorry for my lack of use of carriage returns. Im here to learn about how to grow my tomatoes not practice rhetoric.

As far as fan leaves go, if they are blocking light getting to buds below it, off it goes =) If you dont flush and it comes out fine maybe you are doing something right. What nutes are you using? Organic by chance?

Deflator, my plant is looking close to what your avatar has and if that was one of your grows I have to give you homage.
 

woodsmaneh!

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Flushing came about due to the introduction of all the chemical nutrients released in the last 15 years in the grow industry. If you don't do it your smoke tastes like crap, won't stay lit and stinks and pops. Most of the time.

Plants still need food to finish, the industry will sell you a bottle of Sweet or some other type of flush for $$$ or just use Sucanate or molasses. Both will supply your plant with the required sugars it needs for the last 10 days and help give your plant a more complex taste.

Cutting leaves off the plant is like cutting the arms of a long distance runner.

The broad leaves are the gas tanks for your plant and the solar cells. Move the leaf away from the bud or cutting the odd one is fine but never never just cut them off.

I went organic after 11 years of chemicals and have never looked back. I don't need to flush anymore but I still use Sucanate for the taste and ease of use.

Peace
 

bluesdad

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i have to say out of 3 grows i only flushed one for 2 wks. all burned great.at least give it a 2 day flush tho,i smoked a friend of mines plant (same batch)that tasted noticably different.it was not flushed at all.
 

qptyqpty

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I would like to figure out how to make my own organic nutes from stuff on the land I intend to purchase. Then I could experiment for myself, lol. I always feel like I am making mistakes because a lot of great growers have varying techniques that work for them. Also could be that the different strains require different conditions. Mine kinda like abuse haha. 60x magnification shows nearly 100% cloudy trics. Ive added more water and the nutes are down to 800ppm. Should I do a rez change and hit it with 2000ppm to give it that last 1wk extra push? This plant has been entrained to constant pH and nute level changes to extreme degrees, believe me. I would like to stay away from molassas or anything of that stuff because I already have flies mysteriously appearing from nowhere and I wish to minimize them.
 
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