When to start adding bloom nutes??

kingding2385

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i use fox farms nutes for my plants and on the bottles it says "switch to fox farms big bloom and tiger bloom at first signs of flowering."

now does that mean start the bloom nutes when you first notice pre-flowers? or does it mean start the bloom nutes at the first signs of bud production?
 

jmello

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the earlier the better...but i usually wait on nutes until i know its fem cuz i grow from seed and thers no need to waste nutes on a male (to me anyways)
 

wackymack

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start addding bloom ferts when you decide to flower it no earlier,dont use bloom ferts when it preflowers when ur on 18/6 or 24/0

start bloomin when u 12/12
 

tommyfergie1

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Good thread but this is my first outdoor grow ... when do i know to start using them without the classic 12/12 approach ?
 

kingding2385

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Good thread but this is my first outdoor grow ... when do i know to start using them without the classic 12/12 approach ?


that is my problem too tommy. i've done previous indoor grows but this is my first outdoor grow and i wasn't sure when to had the bloom nutes, because i'm not going with the 12/12 strategy. 2 of my plants have female preflowers now.
 

bonz

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he he. dont forget about the transition phase. why dont you just google sunrise/sunset times for your eres and actualy know the day/night schedule so you can use it properly
 

Rexob715

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According the chart that came with my Fox Farm nutes, it recommends using Big bloom as a seedling or in week 1.

Grow Big is recommended starting week 2 along with Big Bloom.

To me, this did not make sense, but I am a rookie and who am I to really know??? So, should I start using Grow Big only??

Of course I started out with 33% of recommended dosage.
 

SquirrelGod

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Well, you can add them whenever YOU want, but you should probably wait till there are pistols at every node. Then add your ferts so that it can utilize them properly, and actually bud, but it's your plant. Experiment.
 

t0k3s

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According the chart that came with my Fox Farm nutes, it recommends using Big bloom as a seedling or in week 1.

Grow Big is recommended starting week 2 along with Big Bloom.

To me, this did not make sense, but I am a rookie and who am I to really know??? So, should I start using Grow Big only??

Of course I started out with 33% of recommended dosage.
I have used the big bloom and the grow big and it isnt really anything speacial..But i would use grow-big for veg then combine them adding big bloom for flower:blsmoke:
 

bonz

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here`s a schedule that works well.


weekly schedual (dirt & hydro IF you change the water weekly) and Phasic feeding for bubblers.
Phasic shedules can be followed for soil-- but do not work as well!

ALL MEASURES ARE PER U.S. GALLON...
Hope this helps!!!


EDITED NOTE FOR PHASIC FEEDINGS!!!
Unless your Nutes specific schedule tells you what to do for sprouting and seedling, you need to cut back on the nutes for that stage BEFORE youconsider it to be "phase one"
Week ONE is NOT as soon as they are sprouted and have leaves! Week one is after they have 4 sets of true leaves---
Start your new seedlings in JUST Ph adjusted water (can use hydrogard & superthrive)
When they get their 3rd set of leaves--add HALF of the amound called for in phase 1 of your phasic schedule--
When they open another 2 sets of leaves (fully!) then add the other 1/2 to bring it to the amount required for "Phase 1" this will greatly reduce the possibility of nute-burn or over feeding...and allows the babies to adjust to the nutes easier.

FOX FARMS SCHEDULE

Product list:

Grow Big--$16
Tiger Bloom--$16
Big Bloom --$16
Open Seseme--$23
ChaChing--$23
Beastie Bloom --$23
And the Optional : Bush Doctor Sledgehammer--$26

There is a 3-pack available for $65 of Open Sesame, Cha Ching and Beastie Bloom IF you can find it!

The last 4 Products are used in small quantities and only at specific times during the grow -- so if you know someone who wanted to go in on the 3-pack with ya, it would be worth it!

Here's the FoxFarms Feeding Schedule for Soil... Hydro is MUCH more complex, unless you use bubblersthen you can follow a Phasic feeding schedule (At end of weekly schedule!)


FOX FARMS FEEDING SCHEDULES


WEEKLY FEEDING- per Gallon
Sprouting and week 1--BigBloom 2TBS
week 2-- 2tsp Grow Big + 2TBS Big Bloom
Week 3--3tsp Grow Big + 2TBS Big Bloom
Week 4--JUST 3 tspGrow Big + 1/4 tsp Open Sesame
Week 5 same as week 4 unless going 12/12--

Week 5- OR--day 1 of 12/12-- 2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/2 tsp Open Sesame
Week 6--same as above
Week 7-- 2 Tsp Grow Big + 2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/4 tsp Beastie Bloom
Week 8-- 2Tsp Grow Big + 2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/2 tsp Beastie Bloom
Week 9-- 2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/4 tsp Cha Ching
week 10-- Same as above
Week 11--2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/2 tsp Cha Ching


At beginning of week 11--Check Trichomes-- Flush if ready.. otherwise, continue as with week 11 every week until you flush!


Also recomended--but not a nessesity--
Bush Doctor Sledgehammer (prevents lock-out)
use 2 drops per gallon of water between feedings starting in week 4 of 12/12



PHASIC SHEDULE: (per gallon)
(follow this for bubblers, OR you can use these amounts when watering in soilbut is not as good as the weekly schedule for soil!)

New Clones, or when seedlings get 3 sets of leaves- 1tsp Grow Big + 2tsp Big Bloom
Week 3 of veg (unless going 12/12) ADD 1tsp Grow big + 2 tsp Big Bloom
4 Days Before going 12/12- Add ¼ tsp Open Sesame
Day 1 of 12/12 Drain Reservoir & refill. Add 2 tsp Tiger Bloom + 1TBS Big Bloom + ½ tsp Open Sesame
Week 3 of 12/12Add ¼ tsp Beastie Bloom
Week 5 of 12/12Drain and refill reservoir Add 2 tsp Grow Big + 1 tsp Tiger bloom + 1 TBS Big Bloom + ¼ tsp Cha ching
3-5 Days Before harvest-- Drain and refill reservoir add 2 drops Sledgehammer


keep the res filled in between feedings with ph adjusted water--



The reasonFox Farms doesn't list nutes for weeks 2 & 4 is that it ASSUMES your res won't go down, so you won't NEED any additional nutes (if your res stays full- great!)..
but if the plants are pretty big, or the room is warm/dry-- they can need refilling up to 3-4x a week!!! The chart doesn't take that into account--
Remember-- feed AT MOST 1x each week-- only water in-between!
Use additional nutes from week one at 1/2 rate until in flower (between recomended feeds) then in flower-- for additional feeds, use the nutes from the 1st week of flower at 1/2 rate in between...again--NEVER feed more than 1x a week!

Bubblers MAY use the weekly Schedules-- BUT ONLY if you use an ec/ppm meter to keep the levels where they should be....
an ec around 1.2-1.5 in veg.. then 1.5 -1.7 in flower unlitt the last 2-3 weeks... then can go as high as 2.0. Watch yor plants! they'll tell you if you are over/under feeding!

source : smokin moose
 

t0k3s

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Are you sure u don't work for foxfarms:mrgreen:LOL thats 143$ worth of nutes,thats insane for how much bud that could realistically come off the plant
 
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