Where do you get your fertalizer info/science?

JonCreighton

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Iv been looking for information on fertalizer rates... cannabis specific

Im wondering where most people turn for that kind of information... If you have a history and good data for this stuff then by all means lemme know what u got... but im more interest in what articles people are working off of.

i genreallz work off the caplan studies and dr bugbees paper on reciruclting hydroponics.

whata re the other landmark studies in this field or feralizer specific studies worth reading... in ur opinion or the opinion of the community

thanks creighton

EDIT---- im asking where u get ur science... what articles ect are u working off of to generate ur strategies... not what ur actual stategies are...
 
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Rdubz

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Iv been looking for information on fertalizer rates... cannabis specific

Im wondering where most people turn for that kind of information... If you have a history and good data for this stuff then by all means lemme know what u got... but im more interest in what articles people are working off of.

i genreallz work off the caplan studies and dr bugbees paper on reciruclting hydroponics.

whata re the other landmark studies in this field or feralizer specific studies worth reading... in ur opinion or the opinion of the community

thanks creighton
for me it’s just reading the plant /trial and error
 

Wastei

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Iv been looking for information on fertalizer rates... cannabis specific

Im wondering where most people turn for that kind of information... If you have a history and good data for this stuff then by all means lemme know what u got... but im more interest in what articles people are working off of.

i genreallz work off the caplan studies and dr bugbees paper on reciruclting hydroponics.

whata re the other landmark studies in this field or feralizer specific studies worth reading... in ur opinion or the opinion of the community

thanks creighton
I study the plant. That's how you learn what works in your environment. There's to many factors involved to say this is optimal EC for every single situation.

You have to count in location of operation, wattage, type of light used, humidity, temperature and CO2. All these variables decide how much you can feed the plant. Genetics also play a big role but environment is way more important.
 

JonCreighton

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I study the plant. That's how you learn what works in your environment. There's to many factors involved to say this is optimal EC for every single situation.

You have to count in location of operation, wattage, type of light used, humidity, temperature and CO2. All these variables decide how much you can feed the plant. Genetics also play a big role but environment is way more important.
i get what ur saying.. growing is inutative.. i dont follow bugbees paper to a T.. i have tio make adjustments for subtle reasons of course

but like i said i work off of bugbess 2004 paper on nuitrent recycling in hydroponics and the caplan studies... generate my theories, plans, moves ect. on those papers mostly.

what do u work off of to make ur adjsutments... in what studies do u base ur opinions?
 

mysunnyboy

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i get what ur saying.. growing is inutative.. i dont follow bugbees paper to a T.. i have tio make adjustments for subtle reasons of course

but like i said i work off of bugbess 2004 paper on nuitrent recycling in hydroponics and the caplan studies... generate my theories, plans, moves ect. on those papers mostly.

what do u work off of to make ur adjsutments... in what studies do u base ur opinions?
Are you looking for a specific answer? No offense but have you ever grown marijuana? It doesn’t work this way.
 

Rdubz

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i get what ur saying.. growing is inutative.. i dont follow bugbees paper to a T.. i have tio make adjustments for subtle reasons of course

but like i said i work off of bugbess 2004 paper on nuitrent recycling in hydroponics and the caplan studies... generate my theories, plans, moves ect. on those papers mostly.

what do u work off of to make ur adjsutments... in what studies do u base ur opinions?
I have read a lot and I just keep reading by skimming through others grow journals and there isn’t a scientific calculation for it it’s literally like what @waiste is saying you have to try and journal and learn from it there isn’t an exact formula , I can say stay with in x amount of EC but then it’s going to just get super controversial
 

JonCreighton

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I have read a lot and I just keep reading by skimming through others grow journals and there isn’t a scientific calculation for it it’s literally like what @waiste is saying you have to try and journal and learn from it there isn’t an exact formula , I can say stay with in x amount of EC but then it’s going to just get super controversial
i agree... but i learned wayyyy more from bugbess paper on nuitents than i did on forums or magazine articles... it just takes longer to grasp.. but in the end, way more beneficial..
 

Rdubz

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i agree... but i learned wayyyy more from bugbess paper on nuitents than i did on forums or magazine articles... it just takes longer to grasp.. but in the end, way more beneficial..
well that’s great that means your next step is to apply what you have learned and if your plants look good then your golden
 

Wastei

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i get what ur saying.. growing is inutative.. i dont follow bugbees paper to a T.. i have tio make adjustments for subtle reasons of course

but like i said i work off of bugbess 2004 paper on nuitrent recycling in hydroponics and the caplan studies... generate my theories, plans, moves ect. on those papers mostly.

what do u work off of to make ur adjsutments... in what studies do u base ur opinions?
None. Like I said I study the plant. Theory and practical knowledge is to separate things.

You have to understand what restriction the science methodology has. It can do many things but is not perfect and flawed in many ways. It always wants everything down to one single digit or variable to reach a result.

Nature is more complex than that. The more you study the more you put your knowledge in to your own belief system, I call it "Science delusion". The first one I heard using the word in literature was Rupert Sheldrake, he's written a lot of books and done interesting studies.
 
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Grandpapy

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i get what ur saying.. growing is inutative.. i dont follow bugbees paper to a T.. i have tio make adjustments for subtle reasons of course

but like i said i work off of bugbess 2004 paper on nuitrent recycling in hydroponics and the caplan studies... generate my theories, plans, moves ect. on those papers mostly.

what do u work off of to make ur adjsutments... in what studies do u base ur opinions?
It use to be books, books, books, then I met some growers at a gathering with samples of their handiwork, asked questions got advise.
Found out that most store formulas change overtime without notice (makes for a fun time). and I just end up chasing my tail while paying PG&E.

You might try contacting @Aeroknow if you are trying to maximize quantity and quality.
 

Aeroknow

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You might try contacting @Aeroknow if you are trying to maximize quantity and quality.
I’ve found that 1.6 -1.7 EC works for damn near every strain and every setup i’ve ran from a recirculating setup to watering nutes through dirt in a run to waste setup. Gotta get that good runoff watering with an EC of 1.7 EC everytime though.

i found out the hard way many years ago. Well before the internet. I started off with GH’s 3-part at full strength and ended up learning to go half strength.

some people on here question how I get away with such high ppm’s but I know what has always worked great and I think they are the fucking crazy ones lol.
 
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