White top... Anyone seen this before?

Drop That Sound

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Did you pollinate one of your white tips, with a bleached out the white x white widow male sack, and try to get albino white liger striped seeds?
 

TrentSteel

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So are wannabes who will throw their "experience" around as if they know their shit and then ask newb questions or give newbs horrible advice.
Lol, this is annoying and widespread I come and ask a question and I end up teaching a class, this should not be the case as I have like 7 grows under my belt
 

Nizza

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Due to my inability to control the environment, the white tips were all very small. I took eight of the ones left, ground them up and smoked them. The only way I can describe it is sublime. It was a long lasting, really mellowing happy high that I had never quite experienced before. Yes, I am going to get my place set up so that I can control the environment and do it again, this time making huge white tip buds. I know how to make it happen so I'm going to take advantage of it. I guarantee you it is not any kind of damage to the plant. It is not LED bleaching, it's not heat damage or light burning, it's nothing like that. Look at the trichomes on that and tell me that there's any evidence check those artists reaction to something that damaging to the plant.
thanks for sharing your experience. I think a lot of readers here understand there are people who are just going to say this is bleaching and thats that.
its pretty pointless at this point to keep repeating that its bleaching. (not saying you but people in general)
I'm interested in peoples experience because although it may be some sort of light bleaching, people have had good experiences from this bud like you so I'm interested in what causes it...
 

Nizza

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Okay, here's the pictures of the plants that I intentionally White tipped. Under the microscope after I harvested. I want you to tell me that those don't look healthy!
it would be fun to see what lab tests look like right?
 

TrentSteel

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Okay, here's the pictures of the plants that I intentionally White tipped. Under the microscope after I harvested. I want you to tell me that those don't look healthy!
That actually does look quite badass but IMO the OPs does not look anything like that and has traits other than bleaching which lead me to believe his light is too close let alone the fact that he told us it was.
 

Nizza

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That actually does look quite badass but IMO the OPs does not look anything like that and has traits other than bleaching which lead me to believe his light is too close let alone the fact that he told us it was.
cool, got it
 

Psyphish

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Used to see a lot of white tips with blurple LEDs, and to a lesser degree with whites. I don't recall them being any tastier. It's strange that people are still arguing about the subject over a decade later, it's just a chlorophyll malfunction, but you can call them "hashtips" if it makes you feel like a better grower.
 
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Drop That Sound

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Imagine being able to grow true albino cannabis autoflower like genetics in the dark, via artificial photosynthesis, where the chlorophyll isn't even needed to help supply energy to the plant. Maybe some kind of mutagenic acetate solution, injected directly into the plants vascular system or something, so the plant can still get what it needs to feed and produce nice full on pure albino flowers.

Seems like we are getting closer and closer to figuring things like that out, with more advanced tech coming out all the time..




 

galderan

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Did you pollinate one of your white tips, with a bleached out the white x white widow male sack, and try to get albino white liger striped seeds?
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No, I didn't do anything like that. I worked with the plants with lighting and nutrients. I'm learning how to cause it, these aren't seeds that are anything special, they just reacted the way that I wanted them to. It seems to work best in sativa dominant or sativa plants. So far, I'll update. I think I might take your idea there though. I have to do some investigating to pick out the right genotype to grow a male with. I think next time I'm going to leave one of them alone and when they are white tipped, just switch them back into veg, get seeds from the plants that way. Maybe the white tip buds will have a different style seed. Different colors, size or whatever. I don't know yet but thanks for the idea!
 

galderan

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Imagine being able to grow true albino cannabis autoflower like genetics in the dark, via artificial photosynthesis, where the chlorophyll isn't even needed to help supply energy to the plant. Maybe some kind of mutagenic acetate solution, injected directly into the plants vascular system or something, so the plant can still get what it needs to feed and produce nice full on pure albino flowers.

Seems like we are getting closer and closer to figuring things like that out, with more advanced tech coming out all the time..




I would not want to take something like that into my body through any fashion!
 

galderan

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Used to see a lot of white tips with blurple LEDs, and to a lesser degree with whites. I don't recall them being any tastier. It's strange that people are still arguing about the subject over a decade later, it's just a chlorophyll malfunction, but you can call them "hashtips" if it makes you feel like a better grower.
It was all new to me and ever since I found out about it by accidentally white tipping one, smelling the difference and then feeling the awesome high I got from just smoking the white tip, I decided that I love it. The ones I did on this girl intentionally were the lower buds in the center of the plant. I had it outside and when I was bringing it in I stumbled and broke the top so I cut the top off. Brought it in and stuck it under the lights. That Central section that was lower than all the rest of the buds is the section that white tipped. The other ones didn't which is kind of strange if it's being caused by the light being too close. The evidence that I have seen with my own eyes indicates that that is an erroneous conclusion. It was because of the lights being too close then the other ones would have white tipped and they wouldn't have.
 

galderan

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thanks for sharing your experience. I think a lot of readers here understand there are people who are just going to say this is bleaching and thats that.
its pretty pointless at this point to keep repeating that its bleaching. (not saying you but people in general)
I'm interested in peoples experience because although it may be some sort of light bleaching, people have had good experiences from this bud like you so I'm interested in what causes it...
Did you know calling those hashtips is a really cool idea! Thank you. They don't taste anything like hash or smell anything like hash but it's a really good idea. As to it being a chlorophyll malfunction or not, I'm not so sure about that unless the chlorophyll malfunction itself would cause the flower to appear completely different than all of the other ones. It's structure internally is different. And once the tip starts at the top, if it starts soon enough in the flowering cycle, it will migrate its way down like the next flower down on that cola goes into a metamorphic change and turns White, opens up instead of just having the hairs coming out. I'm getting a better microscope for the next batch, need to spend a couple hundred bucks on it. The one I've got is 640x480 and looks really good on the phone screen until you try to blow it up and get details. I'm going to keep on updating but it's going to be a few months cuz I'm not starting another batch of seeds until february. That way once they are large enough, maybe two weeks away from flowering I can put them outside in the 24-hour sunlight.
 

galderan

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Imagine being able to grow true albino cannabis autoflower like genetics in the dark, via artificial photosynthesis, where the chlorophyll isn't even needed to help supply energy to the plant. Maybe some kind of mutagenic acetate solution, injected directly into the plants vascular system or something, so the plant can still get what it needs to feed and produce nice full on pure albino flowers.

Seems like we are getting closer and closer to figuring things like that out, with more advanced tech coming out all the time..




The role of sunlight in photosynthesis is electrical. It's an ionic exchange the sun's energy is a positively charged energy, the Earth is a negatively charged energy. When the sun strikes the leaves, the leaves act as photocells which is exactly what they are, photoreceptors. Those photoreceptors develop an induced charge which neutralizes the charge that the plant is producing allowing current flow to the center. Kind of a weird way to say it and probably inaccurate in every detail but an excellent way for somebody to understand it. You can enhance the growth of your plant by stretching copper wires across the top of them within about an inch of the leaves. That facilitates ionic exchange into the atmosphere from the plant. The more current you can induce safely the better the plants will grow because they are electrical living things just like every other living thing on this planet. That's why the roots downward growth is similar to the branches upward growth. We do that same ionic exchange. We aren't as healthy as we used to be because humans aren't going out and getting sunlight all over their skin therefore the ionic exchange through the largest organ on our body, the skin is inadequate. That's why we have to take vitamin d, the vitamin d is what our skin generates when we are absorbing sunlight because that sunlight is neutralizing the ions in and on the surface of our skin which allows current flow which facilitates our electrical system. There are ways of growing plants without sunlight and that is done by facilitating the ionic exchange in other ways. I do not know enough to be able to get more detailed because I haven't switched on my hyper focus on that yet. Once my hyper focus goes, all bets are off and I'll be sharing what I find out. Hey, ADHD ain't it wonderful?
 

amneziaHaze

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Anyone ever seen a big collection of white pistes at the top of a main cola like this before? They're almost not even pistes as they seem thick and kinda rigid
I had them on red diesel.poliploid or somehing looks cool but gave less than normal tops
 

coreywebster

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Did you know calling those hashtips is a really cool idea! Thank you. They don't taste anything like hash or smell anything like hash but it's a really good idea. As to it being a chlorophyll malfunction or not, I'm not so sure about that unless the chlorophyll malfunction itself would cause the flower to appear completely different than all of the other ones. It's structure internally is different. And once the tip starts at the top, if it starts soon enough in the flowering cycle, it will migrate its way down like the next flower down on that cola goes into a metamorphic change and turns White, opens up instead of just having the hairs coming out. I'm getting a better microscope for the next batch, need to spend a couple hundred bucks on it. The one I've got is 640x480 and looks really good on the phone screen until you try to blow it up and get details. I'm going to keep on updating but it's going to be a few months cuz I'm not starting another batch of seeds until february. That way once they are large enough, maybe two weeks away from flowering I can put them outside in the 24-hour sunlight.
Hash tips is a term coined by some led manufacturers years ago whos lights bleached tips of buds due to poor design to try and make it cool.
 

buckaclark

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The role of sunlight in photosynthesis is electrical. It's an ionic exchange the sun's energy is a positively charged energy, the Earth is a negatively charged energy. When the sun strikes the leaves, the leaves act as photocells which is exactly what they are, photoreceptors. Those photoreceptors develop an induced charge which neutralizes the charge that the plant is producing allowing current flow to the center. Kind of a weird way to say it and probably inaccurate in every detail but an excellent way for somebody to understand it. You can enhance the growth of your plant by stretching copper wires across the top of them within about an inch of the leaves. That facilitates ionic exchange into the atmosphere from the plant. The more current you can induce safely the better the plants will grow because they are electrical living things just like every other living thing on this planet. That's why the roots downward growth is similar to the branches upward growth. We do that same ionic exchange. We aren't as healthy as we used to be because humans aren't going out and getting sunlight all over their skin therefore the ionic exchange through the largest organ on our body, the skin is inadequate. That's why we have to take vitamin d, the vitamin d is what our skin generates when we are absorbing sunlight because that sunlight is neutralizing the ions in and on the surface of our skin which allows current flow which facilitates our electrical system. There are ways of growing plants without sunlight and that is done by facilitating the ionic exchange in other ways. I do not know enough to be able to get more detailed because I haven't switched on my hyper focus on that yet. Once my hyper focus goes, all bets are off and I'll be sharing what I find out. Hey, ADHD ain't it wonderful?
So if we raise a baby in a Faraday cage,it will become a giant.Right?
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galderan

Member
So if we raise a baby in a Faraday cage,it will become a giant.Right?
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All right, interesting concept and I can't process this one through my head while standing in the middle of the kitchen so I'm going to have to delve more into the design and effects of Faraday cages on electromagnetic spectrums within the Faraday cage. At least that's an idea of where I would start to really be able to understand the concept to the point to where I could definitively answer that without having to actually do the experiment which now that you threw that out there I just might have to grow one of my cannabis plants in a Faraday cage. Damn it! I already got enough I want to do!
 

Funkentelechy

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I have seen something that looks just like that on an outdoor plant that I grew. Because it was an outdoor plant obviously it was not caused by LED's or light bleaching, it was some form of variegation. Don't know if it was the same thing that the OP is experiencing or not but it looked just like the picture. I'm not saying that it isn't light bleaching in the OP's case, it's hard to say without being there, but there are other things that can produce this effect other than light bleaching/LED's, it can be caused by a natural mutation.
 
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