White window indoor soil grow

what bank did you get your seeds from?

if the leaves are yellowing more it might be something else check your ph in you water you can get those test strip ones at walmart cheap. It should be next to the fish stuff there.

How do you like that Fox Farm soil? Also do you use fox farm nutes too?

bulletproofhoodies said:

what bank did you get your seeds from?

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I got mine from bc seed king . com When I look back I wish I would have got feminized seeds, but hey, from what i've read most get over 50% females with them and so far with the growth of these white widows I can't complain (assuming I get a decent amount of females). I definitely like how bushy these are and compact between the nodes which also has to do with my 24/0 light schedule.

BigL420 said:

How do you like that Fox Farm soil? Also do you use fox farm nutes too?

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So far I have no complaints. My seeds never showed any sign of nute burn which I have heard some complain of with fox farm. Up until now with my nute deficiency, possible nute burn now, it has been great. I don't have any other experience with other soils, but its been a breeze without any pests. I did also get the fox farm nutes, only grow big and big bloom. I figured with the low concentration it has it will be harder to nute burn my plants.

nickbbad said:

if the leaves are yellowing more it might be something else check your ph in you water you can get those test strip ones at walmart cheap. It should be next to the fish stuff there.

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I have both the strips and the liquid drops to add to the water. My PH has been around 6-6.5. My water is actually very good and is always ph 7 without doing anything to bring it down. So I am very doubtful that its a ph issue.

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I do think I might have some how nute burned the ones that were yellowing. Now that I think of it, when I did 1/4 concentration my large gallon jug was only 1/3 full......definitely wasn't thinking when I did this. The yellowing has since got worse and I will not add any nutes the next watering and possibly the one after that depending on how they look. I'll take it by sight for now.

Thats cool, I have been thinking of trying foxfarm out. I think I will stick around to how yours turn out.

BigL420 said:

Thats cool, I have been thinking of trying foxfarm out. I think I will stick around to how yours turn out.

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Sounds good, I'm guessing those that have issues with fox farm are having issues because of specific strains. That seems to be what I read at least, white widow seems to be a pretty hardy plant though.
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On another note, I definitely over reacted about nute burn. Since its my first grow, it seems every new stage I enter I freak out about something new. But it is nute deficiency. I thought about with how deficient they were when I first fed them that I find it very hard to believe that they were nute burned from that one watering. Since I had flushed them in my overreaction, I have since started foliar feeding, just a few good sprays in the morning and will continue until my next watering in which case I will stop. Since I started that the plant has stopped yellowing and seems to be slightly getting better.

One thing I did find out which may have helped me to believe it was nute burn is that I adjusted my waters ph before adding the nutes to it, not realizing that the nutes lower the ph of my water as well. With my unadjusted water being ph 7, after adding nutes it brings the ph down to right around 6. It does not seem to be in the 5 range so I do not believe I will cause lock out from here on, but I do think I may have done this when I used the nutes during watering, which would be why the symptoms seemed to have progressed farther. Either way with the flush I did and the foliar feeding they are coming back. I will also be started a lighting schedule of 17/7 tonight. The reason for the weird numbers is I have the lights go off at midnight while I sleep to keep noise down and I wake up at 7am at which case I can open my door when the lights turn on to prevent overheating until my new inline fan comes. Either way I should be turning lights to 12/12 in about a week. I decided on lights off at night because the noise keeps me up and during the day while I am out of the house I can crack my window once the temps outside go down and keep the room cool while i'm not around, so it won't be too cool while I'm in it.

is everything still going good ?

Sorry for the neglect on this thread. Grow has been having problems for a while now and didn't want to update this thread until my plants were looking better, but since that doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon I'll update now. Here is my post from my other post in the sick plant section from today. (pictures of only two of my plants, both happen to be the bushier looking ones that seem to have all types of symptoms)

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Well last week my plant was having the problems of slow stunted growth, yellowing around the edges of the lower/middle plant leaves. My leaves were having ram horn issues as well as the folded leave issue. Some drooped down some went up. I had originally had no nutes at all added when the yellowing signs first showed up. I then added 1/4 nutes but with all the advice I got that it looked like it was burning I flushed. Well 5 days after doing that and the problem still getting worse I did add 1/4 nutes. Nothing has helped at this point. I can't seem to diagnose this. My plant shows so many types of problems I can't tell if its heat stress, under nute, over nute (not sure how the signs showed up originally since no nutes were given and they were 3 weeks old), or some other weird problem. Plants are all around 5.5-7 inches tall.

Visual symptoms:
- Yellow around edges of leaves middle/lower half
- completely yellowing leaves on lower half (may be to lack of light)
- crispy little tips at the end of the leaves now (looks like nute burn now)
- folded up leaves and curled under ram horn leaves
- purplish stem color (stems coming off main stalk and some side ones too)
- brown dead spots on lower leaves
- new growth is starting to have a light yellow coloring
- stunted growth

Info.
Strain: White Widow (annoying little shit to grow)
box: 2.5x3.5x5 ft sectioned into two boxes in the middle, growing in top half (will be receiving a tent next week).
medium: 1 gal grow bags in FFOF soil from the start
light: 400 watt hps 17/7 hanging 1 ft away with fan blowing on plant
watering: every 3-4 days depending on weight and finger test
ph: 6.5-7 when I pour in, runoff is almost always the same.
age: just over a month old. Was hoping to start flowering now but I do not want to with these problems going on.
Temp/humidity: 78-85 degrees with humidity around 50%

Any ideas you can throw at me I would love to hear.

problems, problems, problems, and more problems. Did not think I would have this much difficulty with this grow. damn white widow, just has to be the stubborn stuck up child that everyone hates to babysit.

I've also noticed that on the two plants that I posted picture of, instead of the vertical growth the non-main side branches have really started to grow. As you can see in some of the pictures where I am hold the leaves up that they are growing very fast and starting to pop out the under growth and cover up the bigger leaves. Not sure if this happens to many of you without topping your plant at all. I'm not complaining, just want to make sure plants will stay healthy so I can start flowering next weekend after I get my tent all set up.

Well I am already starting to plan my next grow, I have some white widow seeds left, but not sure if I'll include that in the next one, depends on how much I yield from this one and if I am able to figure these problems out. I figure with a tent size of 36x20x62 inches I can keep going with a sog, maybe even lollipop, of 6 plants. (not a true sog since there is no veg chamber. I may let these next plants grow out more since I have the height). Probably go with some afghan kush or hindu kush for 2 plants, some sour diesel for 2, and then northern lights for the last 2. Have a good variety and with a tent all environmental controls should be much easier. Damn white widows giving me such problems!

YOU AND I BOTH! im having some big problems too i had to much root growth on the bottom because i had to bury my stem due to stetching. and all the bottom roots clogged up the drainage holes UHHGG

tkjoe said:

YOU AND I BOTH! im having some big problems too i had to much root growth on the bottom because i had to bury my stem due to stetching. and all the bottom roots clogged up the drainage holes UHHGG

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Did you solve your problem after transplanting or was there more to it then just the roots?

It was all about the roots. problem though while transplanting, i soaked the soil to much. STUPID ME! oh well the plant is living fine! i had to cut off the bad fan leaves that were yellow and brown and becoming brital. im expecting some growth tomorro. everything is looking fine accept the purple colour to the top levaes from being to cold at night. i am also switching to 12/12 today and have switched all my bulbs accordingly. i dont want my plant to be 7 feet tall, i just dont have that kinda room. if it doubles in size that will be perfect. ill post osme pictures soon. looks almos tlike i have lollipopped my plant

Im growing that white widow as well, not having too many problems with it yet as they are about the same size as yours. They are starting to get extremely bushy though, looking a lot like yours. I also just hit them with bush master this morning to make sure they stay small for i have height issues in my chamber..

Well the nute burn issues solved themselves within 2 days after I flushed them. Now they are slowly starting to show signs of nute deficiency, which I am sure of this time (still growing well, just bottom growth is starting to go completely yellow while top growth is still moving along nicely). I have not decided if I will use any veg nutes or not since I will be switching to flowering on sunday and am not sure if I should use veg nutes for the first week or so during flowering. My tent showed up this week, I haven't set it up since I do not have any time at the moment until sunday, so no comment on the tent's structure or any other specifics of it. All in all, things are moving a long well am I ready to find the sex of my plants and hopefully get ride of 1-2 plants (crossing fingers for the 2 crappy looking ones). I'll post pictures of the plants and the tent this sunday when I have finished setting it all up.

Well I set up my tent yesterday. Its nice, not 100% light proof since I can see light coming through zippers even though theres a flap over it. I'm planning on buying velcro to use on the flaps over the zipper to make sure it stays completely closed next to the tent. Overall, I definitely like this tent compared to my box. It is much smaller (not as much wasted space), allows for much more vertical space, airtight (I don't smell anything anymore), and easy to get in and change whatever I need. Temps are no longer a problem because of the tent and the 435 cfm fan I have working with it now. I don't think I turn the fan up past medium speed at all as of yet. Only problem I am having is when I turn on the circulating fans, my box seems to stay warm a lot more since the hot air is being pushed all around including down. I also started flowering yesterday and already have two confirmed females. Needless to say I was very surprised to see any have shown sex after one day since I vegged for a little over a month and had not had any signs of pre-flowers. I also got my actual digital camera up and working. I didn't think the close ups would work since I couldn't get that close and have it focus, I guess the 7megapixel helped out. Heres some pictures.

more pictures. On this plant if you look at the nodes in the center of the picture you can see a few white hairs. If only they knew what I had planned for them....

edit: dang pictures on here aren't the same quality as mine. You can still see the white hairs, its just a little more difficult. Anyone know how to upload the pictures straight to the post instead of links to click?

Well I edited the pictures and have some better close ups of the hairs.

Quick question on the color of my plants in the picture. Its pretty obvious the stems are purple, is this likely just a nute deficiency? i used veg nutes yesterday when watering at 1/4 strength. Also should I keep using veg nutes for a week or two into flowering since the plants often put a lot of height on them during this time and then switch to flowering nutes?

I also seem to have another 2-3 females. Not 100% sure at this point since the the hair has not quite come out of the little notch, just seems like the very tip is starting to show.

I just read through your thread.
Looking good WM.
It seem like the stems could be deficiency but more or less Strain genetics.

And I'd like to back one of the previous posters.
BE CAREFUL with nutes. They Burn real easy/
My Widow was fed 2x
and reacted funky.

But Post some pics in here if ya like.
We'd be glad to have you.
https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/224391-white-widow-club-show-off.html

Good luck and Happy Growing
~~Joe~~

well I have 7 confirmed females out of 9. Not bad percentage at all. Still a little cramped, but some of the plants have started growing much larger, I wish they all would though since one of the very bushy plants has barely any penetration onto the plant past the very top of it, not even the second nodes from the top are seeing much light. Overall though they are growing better. Once they all get a bit taller I will try and get some cfls under them as well. I used veg nutes once and have used bloom nutes once which I will continue to use every 3-4 waterings. The plants seemed to love the bloom nutes, especially since my plant seemed to be N overdosed but deficient in everything else. Also with it being the fox farms big bloom and being organic it seems to help as well since I can easily use a very small amount. here are some pics of the guys, I'll get some up of the females later this week when more hairs are showing and it looks more like its starting to flower instead of just the few wimpy hairs. Before I threw out the males I looked at the roots and both seemed good. Neither were clumped on the bottom and they looked healthy without any root. They were very dense in the part that was clumpy together. What do you guys think?