Who Believes In God?

Interesting... see I don't understand if what you say he meant is what he meant to say, why didn't he just say it that way (ok, I admit, MySpace wasn't around then, but you know what I mean)? I mean, why go into all the blood and gore to make a point about resisting temptation?

it was a parable, i think thats what they are called, and jesus liked to use them as telling stories to tell the people, it would catch people attention and probably made them think about it, like that verse, if it said just what it meant then i would of probably never remembered it lol

There has to be something after death, even though I can't say i can associate myself with any religion.

KAOSOWNER said:

God is ultimate and supreme he absolutely exists!!!! The facts that exist are you me and some great Marijuana. ( NO GOD = NO WEED ) Ha beat that lol

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you are 100% correct how can you deny there is a greater power.
even from a scientific point of view human DNA is so complex that it is almostr impossable that it just existed or happened by accident.

so complex it must have been created by a greater power===GOD

overfiend said:

you are 100% correct how can you deny there is a greater power.
even from a scientific point of view human DNA is so complex that it is almostr impossable that it just existed or happened by accident.

so complex it must have been created by a greater power===GOD

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I don't believe there is a single scientific point of view regarding the existence of a god, gods or goddesses. There are atheist scientists and Christian scientists. Muslim scientists and Buddhist scientists. Science does not have a unified voice - when scientists mostly agree it is because of evidence.

I will say, however, that your argument about the complexity of DNA has been around a long time. It is called irreducible complexity and is not a valid "scientific" argument for the existence of God. Besides, if you believe in God - who needs scientific evidence? While I personally think faith (belief without evidence) is a terrible thing, many folks consider it a virtue. And perhaps, if i were in their shoes, I would feel the same way - i'm not here to judge. I will merely point out that if you value faith then you don't need proof or evidence of God's existence.

email468 said:

I will merely point out that if you value faith then you don't need proof or evidence of God's existence.

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Well said......

1puff2puff3puff said:

Well said......

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thanks 1puff2puff3puff - i've seen your other posts on this thread and you've probably seen mine but when you look for common ground you usually find it.

overfiend said:

you are 100% correct how can you deny there is a greater power.
even from a scientific point of view human DNA is so complex that it is almostr impossable that it just existed or happened by accident.

so complex it must have been created by a greater power===GOD

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I note with interest the qualifier "almost impossible", "almost" implying the possibility that DNA did just exist or happen by accident, eh?

overfiend said:

you are 100% correct how can you deny there is a greater power.
even from a scientific point of view human DNA is so complex that it is almostr impossable that it just existed or happened by accident.

so complex it must have been created by a greater power===GOD

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Right so God being as complex as he must be, using your logic he must of also been created... ahhh catch 22.

A watch is complex, but that wasn't created by a God, but by mortal human hands.

good to see god is winning the vote, so we dont go to hell in a hand basket.

mastakoosh said:

good to see god is winning the vote, so we dont go to hell in a hand basket.

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AMEN !!

I dunno I was raised catholic my whole life went through the whole confirmation thing but I've just never really felt it... I mean how am I supposed to believe in something in tangible and then just reley on the old addage "He always was and always is" or whatever that crap is... Im not really quite sure in what I believe anymore.. I believe there's some sort of higher power than us, but I don't know exactly what it is...


Anyone ever seen the movie the thirteenth floor???? Don't you sometimes just feel like we're all someones little science project...




"If the whole world is going to Hell I'm the one driving the Bus"

Well i think, that when you close yourself of from the physical world, you dont see, you dont feel, you dont hear, you dont taste, just cut yourself of.

That your still there.

Arnt you, still you, i think that is the soul, and people must beleive, everyone somehow beleives in a higher power, or a unity of soul with everything, something spiritual. no matter how much they say they arnt religious or whatever.

Because do you really think a human wouldnt go insane if he/she knew that they were alone? That there wasnt something higher?

In saying this i also think all religions are a basis of controlling evil, and will have no part of any of them.
It disgusts me to think people are so controlled by the convience of a "god" through any decidely whorshipping way.

And in saying that, i still have many friends in many cultures, like hindu, christian, muslim, whatever. Accept them but i still strongly disagree with that they follow.
cause they are still people, with their 'soul' and thats what your supposed to like.

If you're religious, this is all you have to ask yourself. What religion am I? Do I disbelieve all other religions? and finally, If I was born in another country, would I still be the same religion I am now? The answer is no. Your current religion is your religion because of where you were born and raised, and what was the popular religion in that area. If you were born in Afghanistan, chances are you'd be a muslim.

If that doesn't open yourself up to the light that it's all bullshit. I don't know what will.

LiveHigh said:

If you're religious, this is all you have to ask yourself. What religion am I? Do I disbelieve all other religions? and finally, If I was born in another country, would I still be the same religion I am now? The answer is no. Your current religion is your religion because of where you were born and raised, and what was the popular religion in that area. If you were born in Afghanistan, chances are you'd be a muslim.

If that doesn't open yourself up to the light that it's all bullshit. I don't know what will.

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Well said. I love your avatar BTW, had the image myself.

mastakoosh said:

good to see god is winning the vote, so we dont go to hell in a hand basket.

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Huh? I dont' know how you're reading that poll, but the way I'm reading it is that the "Christian" god is losing...

149 to 102

149 = Those who don't believe in any higher power plus those who don't believe in the "Christian" god.

102 = Those who believe in "God"

VG

VintageGrow said:

Huh? I dont' know how you're reading that poll, but the way I'm reading it is that the "Christian" god is losing...

149 to 102

149 = Those who don't believe in any higher power plus those who don't believe in the "Christian" god.

102 = Those who believe in "God"

VG

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huh who said anything about a christian god?

We can all vote but it really doesn't change a thing.

Let's all vote on whether my new seedling will turn out to be a male or female.

I of course will vote for a female and would hope everyone else would as well. But it doesn't matter cause the plant is going to be male or female regardless of which sex won the vote.

Voting what we believe is real doesn't change what really is...

Titania said:

Well said. I love your avatar BTW, had the image myself.

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Thanks. Your avatar blows mine out of the water though

-LH