Who do u predict becomes the Democratic nominee?

Budzbuddha

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Figured the twinky bootyplug is a best choice ... here’s why :

Bootyplug instead of traditional handshake , he tongue rapes Trump’s filthy mouth hole.

Trump recoils and grabs his man tit .... ticker conks out from cheeseburger plaque. Falls over like a fat fucking bag of shit , big fucking urine stain on his bloated clown pants.

A FUCKING WIN WIN FOR EVERYONE !

bongsmilie
 

Couch_buzz

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And who will the Hollywood disinformation social media blitz be supporting? They have been trying to influence voters since the Wizard Of Oz & Gone WithThe Wind ! they taught the formula to Russia VIA the internet.
They are American citizens and likely registered voters too. Hate on the Hollywood types all you want, most of those jobs pay very well. All USA registered voters have the right to vote.
 

YardG

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Given that he's been doing pretty well so far I want to like Buttegieg more than I do... there's this subcategory of people whose faces I really don't like (the actor Adam Scott is a really good example, man I hate that guy). Anyway, maybe I should do some research on his positions, but my gut-response is he'd be a lousy general election candidate.

Frankly I liked Harris despite her record as a prosecutor, and I like Warren. The rest of them I'm pretty meh on. In a solid blue state anyway, so not like my state won't cast its vote for whoever the democratic nominee is.

I actually believe Bernie could win... just not sure whether that would be good or bad, longterm, for the American left.
 

TacoMac

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Now that they're leaving Bernie's back yard we'll see how very popular Biden actually is. He'll win the entire southeast by a long, long way.

That's where you'll see Klobachar and Warren bite the dust.

After super Tuesday it will become painfully obvious that Joe Biden will win the nomination.
 

Unclebaldrick

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Now that they're leaving Bernie's back yard we'll see how very popular Biden actually is. He'll win the entire southeast by a long, long way.

That's where you'll see Klobachar and Warren bite the dust.

After super Tuesday it will become painfully obvious that Joe Biden will win the nomination.
He'll underperform expectations but do well enough to screw Bernie. It's rigged against Bernie in that the majority of Democrats don't like his ideas.

If Biden dropped out before Super Tuesday, Bernie might get a majority. But he won't and Bernie won't
 

schuylaar

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2016 proves that wrong

Clinton wasn't some "far lefty" and she lost disgracefully to the reality TV show clown

You won't win Republican voters/"moderates" by being Republican lite. The only way to win is to excite the Democratic base. The only way to excite the Democratic base is to offer them something they want, not repeatedly tell them why they can't have what they want because corporate donors don't want it.
+rep :clap:
 

Couch_buzz

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Exciting the Dem base is ok for a primary.....

In a general election, however, far lefties need a LOT of moderate support to win in todays world.

Sanders never accomplished much in Congress, where Klobachar actually has. She was lead Democrat on 100+ bipartisan bills that passed. The country needs help badly, the division/polarization is at an all time high.

DEFEATING TRUMP and his partisan DOJ, as he continues to wield DOJ as a curmudgeon against his delusional perceived enemies is scary shit.

I 'd be happy with Klobachar or Bloomberg. No far lefties tho. ZERO right wing conspiracy theorists, thank you.
 

schuylaar

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Exciting the Dem base is ok for a primary.....

In a general election, however, far lefties need a LOT of moderate support to win in todays world.

Sanders never accomplished much in Congress, where Klobachar actually has. She was lead Democrat on 100+ bipartisan bills that passed. The country needs help badly, the division/polarization is at an all time high.

DEFEATING TRUMP and his partisan DOJ, as he continues to wield DOJ as a curmudgeon against his delusional perceived enemies is scary shit.

I 'd be happy with Klobachar or Bloomberg. No far lefties tho. ZERO right wing conspiracy theorists, thank you.
ummmmmmmmm:roll:

U.S. House of Representatives
His 1990 victory was described by The Washington Post as being the “First Socialist Elected” to the United States House of Representatives in more than 40 years.

Served in the House from 1991 until the time he became a Senator in 2007. Over a span of 16 years, he continuously won re-election by large margins, with the only exception being 1994.

In his very first year in the House, he co-founded the Congressional Progressive Caucus. He led this group for its first eight years. Its primary devotion is to advance liberal causes and is currently the largest organization within the Democratic congressional caucus.

He sided with the minority in voting against the use of force against Iraq in 1991 and 2002. He also opposed the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Voted against the Patriot Act despite the majority of Congress voting for it (357 to 66). He also sponsored several amendments trying to limit its effects, even getting a proposal passed through the House preventing the government from obtaining a record of the books people buy.

Was an open critic of Federal Reserve Chair Alan Greenspan and took him head on insisting he only represented “large and wealthy corporations.” Greenspan later admitted to Congress that his economic ideology regarding risky mortgage loans was flawed.

He passed more amendments than any other member during his time in the House. It earned him the nickname “The Amendment King.” He did this despite being a “socialist” and Congress being controlled by Republicans from 1994 to 2006, in one of the most partisan right-wing Houses ever.

Passed an amendment to “require offenders who are convicted of fraud and other white collar crime to give appropriate notice to victims and other persons in cases where there are multiple victims eligible to receive restitution.”

Passed an amendment that improved Postsecondary Education. It administered a competitive grant program to institutions of higher education seeking to reduce costs through the purchase of goods and services. This saved colleges and taxpayers both money.

He amended the Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act of 2003, stopping the IRS from being able to use funds that “violate current pension age discrimination laws.”

He expanded free health care and won a $100 million increase in funding by using his amendment powers. This added community health centers that gave out a variety of free health care services.

Prevented child labor by passing an amendment to a general appropriations bill. This stated that the U.S. will not appropriate funds for the importation of goods made by the hands of minors.

Won a $22 million increase for low-income home energy assistance and a related weatherization assistance program. This helped heat homes for the poor.

Passed an amendment that formed a bipartisan coalition effectively prohibiting the Export-Import Bank from handing out loans for nuclear projects in China.

U.S. Senate
Defeated a wealthy businessman, Rich Tarrant, to win his U.S. Senate seat in 2006, in one of the most expensive campaigns in Vermont’s history.

Received the distinction of being named the third-most popular senator in the country, according to Public Policy Polling in August 2011.

Given a score of 100 percent by the NAACP and NHLA (National Hispanic Leadership Agenda) based on his record during his time in the Senate.

Named one of the top 5 American Jews of the Forward 50 in 2015.

Chairman of the United States Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs in 2013-2014.

Became ranking minority member of the Senate Budget Committee in January 2015.

Became ranking minority member of the Subcommittee on Primary Health and Aging.

Passed an amendment making sure that solar water heaters provide at least 30 percent of hot water for new federal buildings. This is forcing us to use green energy.

Made sure to it that bailout funds weren’t used to replace laid-off U.S. workers with exploited and poorly-paid foreign workers.

Helped ensure that child care was being offered to parents in the Armed Forces by requiring the Comptroller General to provide accurate reporting on what was being done.

Required a public database be made available showing the names of senior Department officials seeking employment with defense contractors. This helped crack down on corruption.

Required that the TRICARE program provide treatment to veterans affected by certain types of autism. It wasn’t previously being done.

Won a battle requiring the Government Accountability Office to conduct an audit of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (the part that doesn’t interfere with monetary policy). This revealed the names of the recipients of over 2,000,000,000,000 in taxpayer assistance.

Was praised by John McCain(R-AZ) and Sen. Jack Reed(D-RI) for overhauling the Veterans Administration. Was said to have done such an excellent job of bringing all parties to a deal, that it wouldn’t have gotten done without Sanders’ work.

But, most of all, what Bernie has done is inspire Americans. That’s what he’s doing in this election. His list of accomplishments doesn’t include all the times he’s stood on the Senate floor giving a passionate speech on why the “big banks need to be broken up.” No, you can’t quite quantify things like that.
 

tangerinegreen555

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Bloomberg endorsed George W. Bush in 2004
And Bernie used to write soft porn books.

Bloomberg has 60 fucking billion dollars. His commercials are on all the time. There's a lot to be said for $60 billion if winning is the only thing.

How does one battle money in politics?

With more money, until such time that we have (or buy) the votes to change the system.
 

schuylaar

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And Bernie used to write soft porn books.

Bloomberg has 60 fucking billion dollars. His commercials are on all the time. There's a lot to be said for $60 billion if winning is the only thing.

How does one battle money in politics?

With more money, until such time that we have (or buy) the votes to change the system.
he uses his own cash because he doesn't have a base.

answer: votes

it's not 'he who has the most commercials wins'.
 

hanimmal

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Only if we keep telling how we are afraid of it. Stop empowering him. Empower yourself and others. "We will remove him at the polls!" Get your friends and family registered and get them to the vote.
You figure out how to wake people up out of a cult and I will be more than happy to do just this.

Unfortunately like most 'faithful' the more facts or pressure you pout on them the harder they cling to their cult leader.
 

Couch_buzz

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Without going thru all Klobachars accomplishments (I'm not a petty motherfucker, nor a youthful know nothing):

She is pro-choice on abortion, supports LGBT rights and the Affordable Care Act, and was critical of the Iraq War. According to GovTrack, Klobuchar passed more legislation than any other senator by the end of the 114th Congress in late 2016 .

Sanders has zero chance, I'm not worried. That's why Bloomberg is running, in case Biden faltered. Klobachar or Bloomberg must win, to restore dignity back to America. Sanders is a nutjob extremist, like Trump. Different stances but both are extremist/delusional.
 

schuylaar

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Now that they're leaving Bernie's back yard we'll see how very popular Biden actually is. He'll win the entire southeast by a long, long way.

That's where you'll see Klobachar and Warren bite the dust.

After super Tuesday it will become painfully obvious that Joe Biden will win the nomination.
the minority populace will not be attracted to Buttigieg, Klobuchar or Warren..Joe's an old dog who will have some of the Obama minorities but not all and not by far..I heard it here from @Padawanbater2 and on TV last night; they want to be excited; Obama excited.

Sanders' platform is 'us' and if the media will give him air time- true air time not just sound bytes..you'd see he is accomplished, genuine and a fighter..you'd see why you'd want to vote for him imho.
 

Couch_buzz

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you mean just like Sanders? did you miss this?:



But, most of all, what Bernie has done is inspire Americans. That’s what he’s doing in this election. His list of accomplishments doesn’t include all the times he’s stood on the Senate floor giving a passionate speech on why the “big banks need to be broken up.” No, you can’t quite quantify things like that.
He scares most Americans, only somebody PETTY would bother to copy/paste very single achievement. In how many years did he accomplish those things? I could bother to dig up all Amy's achievements but you can do that yourself.

Not to mention Sanders health, hes 78 and looks 98. Dude barely walks, he wouldn't be able to handle the stress of the job.

My Dad is fucking 90, and is vigorous living alone the past 22 yrs since my Mom died. He manages to keep a 5 bedroom large Victorian house spotless and maintains a vigorous garden. Snowblows himself still! Roto tills the garden himself if I'm not available.
 
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Couch_buzz

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hanimmal

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I really like Klobuchar, but am still voting Biden (as long as he is viable by the time he hits MI). Joe for a nice 4 year term to get us out of the Russian disinformation campaign and then he can let a fresh Republican/Democrat field run in 2024. I would be curious how he would have stacked up to her if they compared records.

Im hoping (again if he comes out of Super Tuesday) for a Biden/Stacey Abrams ticket. Let the nation learn about her and give her some DC experience as she cleans up voting mess.

I think Amy/Warren would be an interesting ticket.
 

Couch_buzz

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Klobachar, Bloomberg, Biden......those 3 can definitely beat Trump. We need a moderate government badly, no more extreme types.

Sanders or Warren would not heal the polarization, just exacerbate it. It doesn't take a 140 IQ to figure that out. Or perhaps it does.

Sanders is a PAYBACK candidate, the same as Warren.
 
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