Why are obama's critics so dumb?

abandonconflict said:
Excuse me, Dubya spent more than double what Obama spent and got us stuck in huge problems that Obama has mostly gotten us out of. If you have a point to make, make it, don't just parrot the same shit we have all heard. It just gives me the idea that I have nothing to gain heeding you.
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Sorry to rain on your little parade of stupidity, but Bush increased the national debt by $4.9 trillion over 8 years... Obama is about to surpass that in just 3 years. He is also looking for another $1.2 trillion increase in the debt ceiling, which oddly, is the same amount the "Super Committee" was supposed to cut...hmmm. I saw this and it struck me as the perfect analogy.



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MuyLocoNC said:
Sorry to rain on your little parade of stupidity, but Bush increased the national debt by $4.9 trillion over 8 years... Obama is about to surpass that in just 3 years. He is also looking for another $1.2 trillion increase in the debt ceiling...
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well, when you're saddled with your predecessor's policies. that'll happen.

from the article...

His spending record is also far better than his predecessor’s. Under Bush, new policies on taxes and spending cost the taxpayer a total of $5.07 trillion. Under Obama’s budgets both past and projected, he will have added $1.4 trillion in two terms. Under Bush and the GOP, nondefense discretionary spending grew by twice as much as under Obama. Again: imagine Bush had been a Democrat and Obama a Republican. You could easily make the case that Obama has been far more fiscally conservative than his predecessor—except, of course, that Obama has had to govern under the worst recession since the 1930s, and Bush, after the 2001 downturn, governed in a period of moderate growth. It takes work to increase the debt in times of growth, as Bush did. It takes much more work to constrain the debt in the deep recession Bush bequeathed Obama.
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Seems like they are all (not nice words). Obama I don't like but he is not as bad as the powers behind what he is doing ( as if there were something worse) . Romney is just a player - the guy will say any thing . Wrecked my home state . The same is also true - the powers behind him are what worries me . Ron Paul more of what he says is believeable than the rest , to me any way. Either he is too old now or what , but he did never seem to have a real chance at winning . These guys will all keep blame shifting one to the other endlessly . Are we to believe there are no really brilliant people who want this job , and these guys just can't figure it out cause its always someone elses fault ? I cant believe this . Theres a lot of good people in America and they deserve to be treated better . Its not just dumb critics that got us here .
 
abandonconflict said:
Excuse me, Dubya spent more than double what Obama spent and got us stuck in huge problems that Obama has mostly gotten us out of.
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OOhhhhhh ... OK .... cool ...... I got it now .... that was a joke, right? You were making a joke, that's what you were doing, right? I mean it is without doubt, hilarious, and to think that for a brief moment I almost missed it and replied that the weak tired long since worn out pure empty/hollow excuse for not only ongoing failing, but worsening conditions, hasn't fooled anyone since Moses was still in short pants.

I am so grateful that I caught your little witticism before I replied in what clearly would have been the wrong manner and instead said something more or less like the above.

I am so glad that I dodged that forum-foul.
 
MuyLocoNC said:
Sorry to rain on your little parade of stupidity, but Bush increased the national debt by $4.9 trillion over 8 years... Obama is about to surpass that in just 3 years.



OK, excuse me, you are correct on technicality. You are still stupid for defending Dubya. Besides, Obama inherited things in horrible shape.
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Brick Top said:
OOhhhhhh ... OK .... cool ...... I got it now .... that was a joke, right? You were making a joke, that's what you were doing, right? I mean it is without doubt, hilarious, and to think that for a brief moment I almost missed it and replied that the weak tired long since worn out pure empty/hollow excuse for not only ongoing failing, but worsening conditions, hasn't fooled anyone since Moses was still in short pants.

I am so grateful that I caught your little witticism before I replied in what clearly would have been the wrong manner and instead said something more or less like the above.

I am so glad that I dodged that forum-foul.
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Oh no, I actually do blame Dubya for everything and I don't hold Obama accountable for his folly.

Do you have something to say? Believe it or not, it is actually possible to convince me to change my mind if you want to put together some premises and a conclusion cogently. By all means, defend Dubya.
 
abandonconflict said:
Oh no, I actually do blame Dubya for everything and I don't hold Obama accountable for his folly.

Do you have something to say? Believe it or not, it is actually possible to convince me to change my mind if you want to put together some premises and a conclusion cogently. By all means, defend Dubya.
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pretty good chance he will.
 
abandonconflict said:
He is probably looking for more statistics to misrepresent.
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i tried to find one that said "brace yourself, the copy and paste is coming" but i could not find it and i liked this one second best.

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its comical to make statements of contrast between obama and bush and put bush as the winner, bush ruined this country, Obama had to put it back together sure he made mistakes who hasnt . . . . no reason to chuck him to the curb, what bush took 8 years to do Obama has turned around(for the most part) in 3.

I dont condon some of the things Obama has put himself behind but i detested everything bush did.

all politicians are snakes and liars, and Obama is not that bad, considering the republican circus that is going on right now, i have zero faith in the second party . .. . . Ron Paul would be interesting but its not plausible for him to ever make it, more like he runs inde and gives the nod to obama just to spite the republican party . .. .. idk,
 
abandonconflict said:
MuyLocoNC said:
Sorry to rain on your little parade of stupidity, but Bush increased the national debt by $4.9 trillion over 8 years... Obama is about to surpass that in just 3 years.



OK, excuse me, you are correct on technicality. You are still stupid for defending Dubya. Besides, Obama inherited things in horrible shape.
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Yeah, well Obama was the guy that was telling us that if he was elected it would be taken care of. That he was the guy with the new ideas, the guy that could unite America. The guy that could bring hope and change.

He said he could handle it.

Now all we hear is blame....

So, it is obvious that he is in totally over his head.
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NLXSK1 said:
abandonconflict said:
Yeah, well Obama was the guy that was telling us that if he was elected it would be taken care of. That he was the guy with the new ideas, the guy that could unite America. The guy that could bring hope and change.

He said he could handle it.

Now all we hear is blame....

So, it is obvious that he is in totally over his head.
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Yeah Obama clearly does not stand a chance of being reelected. Every one of his critics is such a masturdebator. So how is the weather in Salt Lake City?
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NLXSK1 said:
I was just responding to the part where Obama inherited things in terrible shape.

He said he could fix it.

What happened?
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read the article if you want a fuller view, but obama has turned things around.

can you name any instances where we came out of a recession so severe any quicker?
 
UncleBuck said:
read the article if you want a fuller view, but obama has turned things around.

can you name any instances where we came out of a recession so severe any quicker?
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The effective unemployment rate is close to if not over 16%... We have lost millions of jobs since Obama took office.

The reason the unemployment rate looks feebly better is due to the fact that the job base has been diminished by millions of jobs and many people have simply given up even trying to look.

I am not trying to compare Obama with any other president I am simply looking at a man who has no jobs plan, who just vetoed a pipeline that could arguably provide somewhere between 20,000 and 120,000 jobs based on politics. (do you know there are 25,000 miles of pipe already crossing that aquifer that they are complaining about?) Interesting factoid I learned tonight. He has no jobs plan and the only thing he is championing is that people should hate the rich because they havent paid their fare share and that is why America is so fucked up.

Can you name any instance where the USA was over 100% of its GDP in debt and climbing at an alarming rate above 15 trillion dollars?
 
NLXSK1 said:
...no jobs plan...
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lol. your memory is broken. or just remembers nothing before september 9th, 2011.

NLXSK1 said:
...who just vetoed a pipeline that could arguably provide somewhere between 20,000 and 120,000 jobs based on politics...
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based on politics? not only is your memory broken, but your bullshitting mechanism is broken, too. that pipeline goes directly over the ogallala aquifer and more time needs to be taken. you seem like one of those bush types who just rushes into things, like iraq, or unfunded liabilities.

NLXSK1 said:
...He has no jobs plan...
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you've already attempted mouth-farting this on us. his plan would have created many times more jobs than the pipeline would (almost 2 million, not a mere 20-120k or so).

the best part of the obama jobs plan is that there was no possibility of destroying the aquifer that supplies water to 8 major agricultural states.
 

  • based on politics? not only is your memory broken, but your bullshitting mechanism is broken, too. that pipeline goes directly over the ogallala aquifer and more time needs to be taken. you seem like one of those bush types who just rushes into things, like iraq, or unfunded liabilities.​


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Yes yes, a pipeline that has been the most studied in history crossing an area already crisscrossed by pipelines.

Face it, Obama doesnt want to make a decision before the election because it erodes his base. Or go back to history and see that in the Senate the Jr Obama voted present more often than anything else. He is a fence sitter. In this case though the pipeline either goes south or goes west. And if it goes west the oil will likely end up in China rather than America. However, this goes hand in hand with Obama's stated policy. For green energy to have any chance of gaining ground in America, the cost of oil and fossil fuels must necessarily skyrocket. He has stated that on tape. I have to give him credit for a dogged grip on his ideology. The problem is that it is costing jobs, is not realistic, causes a drag on the economy and is painful to the very people Obama claims to be a savior of namely the poor.

It is all politics with him... What are we up to 80 or so campaign rallies already?
 
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