Why do we want marijuana legalized?

I'd hope it would be something on the lines of having growers have to get licenses to grow or a special business license. I'm not sure any good can come out of the govt. taking control over it.

Full on legalization would probably make it illegal to grow but legal to buy from the govt. No telling if they lower the potency or what not. Sure it won't necessarily mean everyone would stop growing but I feel the govt. would raise the stakes for getting caught growing. Some nasty felony and/or fine. Doesn't seem too different but if the growers are able to market it, it's probably best legal or illegal, imo.

KingOfBud said:

I'm not sure if i actually would like to see cannabis legalized. From a growers perspective, the probation is gold! In my area alone, ounces of good bud are going for $150! You grow 5 plants, no chance of jail on first offense (here at least) sometimes not even a criminal record, get 3 - 4 pounds total. That's almost $10,000 from almost no risk. 10 grand every 10 weeks really don't seem too bad for me. You could even live off a grand a week...

Hell, I'm probably being naive here. But what are your opinions?

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wow.. that was the most greedy american capitalistic thing i have heard from a pot head. that made for a good laugh... and yes your being really naive

tickitickitembo said:

wow.. that was the most greedy american capitalistic thing i have heard from a pot head. that made for a good laugh... and yes your being really naive

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d00d ive been seein your posts around..
this isnt someplace to just tell people what they do is "...the most greedy american capitalistic thing..."
treat others as you would like to be treated, and generally just be polite. if he wants to sell his pot let him, im sure he loves his job as would i if i did the same. and besides his argument is no different then that of marijuana club owners..
theyre all just semi-legal dealers...

so please sir, if you could not be naive and maybe check out all sides of the equation...

KingOfBud said:

I'm not sure if i actually would like to see cannabis legalized. From a growers perspective, the probation is gold! In my area alone, ounces of good bud are going for $150! You grow 5 plants, no chance of jail on first offense (here at least) sometimes not even a criminal record, get 3 - 4 pounds total. That's almost $10,000 from almost no risk. 10 grand every 10 weeks really don't seem too bad for me. You could even live off a grand a week...

Hell, I'm probably being naive here. But what are your opinions?

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and d00d, if your stoked that your ounces go for 150, get out here to socal, i see oz's go anywhere from 200-250$ for regs and a minimum 300-400 for kush and good herbs. a well grown crop of jack herer from my dealer who had 3/4 pound of it went for 450 an oz about a month ago and it got bought up within 3 days

well, when they legalize weed, I think people should be allowed to open up shops, and sell it that way, they grow it, they sell it, and the government puts taxes on it. everybody wins. until I come in. then if somebody wants to run a potshop they're gonna have to work for me!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm thinkin a couple bucks for a spliff
then double that for the blunts

if they taxed it, it would be more expensive for us... go and get your licence and live with it. . . smoke on and believe a better future is before us.

yeah, but without having to hide it, there could be entire fields full of maryjane, so the price would probably go down alot. here, for basic weed it's $5 a gram, if there's fields of it, they could sell a pack of joints just like cigs. even if they were $20, if there's 20 joints it works out to $1 a joint, and I couldn't get a licence, cause I just love marijuana, I don't need it to take care of any pain.

KingOfBud said:

I'm not sure if i actually would like to see cannabis legalized. From a growers perspective, the probation is gold! In my area alone, ounces of good bud are going for $150! You grow 5 plants, no chance of jail on first offense (here at least) sometimes not even a criminal record, get 3 - 4 pounds total. That's almost $10,000 from almost no risk. 10 grand every 10 weeks really don't seem too bad for me. You could even live off a grand a week...

Hell, I'm probably being naive here. But what are your opinions?

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I used to think as you do & im some ways i still do,my biggest fear of the 100% legalization of mj in the united states is that the government will manage to fuck that up once they get involved in it for profit,if there's big money in it the government demands its cut first & always will.

Tax stamps,weak ass strains,even harsher penalties then we have right now for bootleggers,where the government will make up the lost revenue from lack of asset seizures,these are the things that worry me about legalization.

Mr. Maryjane said:

well, when they legalize weed, I think people should be allowed to open up shops, and sell it that way, they grow it, they sell it, and the government puts taxes on it. everybody wins. until I come in. then if somebody wants to run a potshop they're gonna have to work for me!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm thinkin a couple bucks for a spliff
then double that for the blunts

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You should read up on how much tax the government levies on a pack of smokes or a 6 pack of beer,the majority of the consumer cost is paid to the government in tax'es,if the government starts taxing pot the price will tripple over night.

There is allready a mj tax in the united states,its not implimented at this time but there is law on the books.

yeah, but like I said in my last post, we won't have to hide it, so we could grow more. alot more. making the price drop, then when the government puts taxes on it, it couldn't cost much more than it does now for some killer weed. and pot doesn't rape the soil like tabacco, so maybe we could put a little spin on it. like, we're helping the earth man! and if my dream works out, pot will replace tabacco completely

roseypanties said:

if they taxed it, it would be more expensive for us... go and get your licence and live with it. . . smoke on and believe a better future is before us.

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Incorrect. Legalization and regulation would destabilize the black market and undermine the pressure it places on prices. Would cannabis be taxed heavily? You bet. However, the elimination of the embedded expense related to prohibition would neutralize any taxes due to regulation. Compared to now, weed would be vastly less expensive.

It wouldn't be nearly as exciting / thrilling to grow it if it were legal, though... would it?

Here's my idea of exciting and thrilling: Imagine a culture tolerant enough to openly accept cannabis use. A shift of our collective conscience. Away from kneejerk jugmentalism and punishment mentality. An entire class of people able to live free; publicly and without fear.

I love the Idea of dank-ass bud, without having to pay 100/quarter, cause it'd be the same as cigerettes as far as I'm concerned. some shwag would be like rogers(it'd still end up being better than it is now), and some killer bud would be like the newports. and it'd be cheaper to grow than tobacco

MagusALL said:

i think the illegal enterprise is the worst part of marijuana cultivation. yeah it lets the non smokers get some buds but it also makes us all seem like drug dealers when were just weed tokers. if it were legalized the commercial growers would be out a job but for smokers, it would be way better. we would have the freedom to grow and smoke and not be considered criminals. so if youre a commercial grower it would suck but for smokers, it would simply be awesome.

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Not necessarily, on the dealers perspective. If it were legalized then the Tobacco corporations are going to jump on it. Imagine packs of joints same size of cigarette packs at the cost of 15-20 for regs. I mean already rolled, seeds/steams pulled out and each Joint is packed as shit. The upside for the dealers/growers can get jobs for Phillip Morris and other corps as Marijuana Farmers. Still doing what you want and enjoy and still getting paid with benefits.

I think not wanting marijuana legalized because the dealers wont be making loot is wrong imo...I understand there are people who cant grow their own and need the help but to just look at it as strictly a purpose of making loot is the wrong attitude...There are many of other ways to make money....I grow bud and work, Whenever I do get rid of bud I basically give it away

and I also know there are many that grow for the sole purpose of making loot which I disagree with

Johnnyorganic said:

Incorrect. Legalization and regulation would destabilize the black market and undermine the pressure it places on prices. Would cannabis be taxed heavily? You bet. However, the elimination of the embedded expense related to prohibition would neutralize any taxes due to regulation. Compared to now, weed would be vastly less expensive.

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Yes it will be taxed, however the consumer will not see the difference. The prices will most likely stay the same due to the fact of inflation, if the prices raise then there will be less purchases and more growing of their own. They will keep the prices the same and instead of the dealers making all the profit the money will go back into the economy. Lowering food prices, gas prices and other taxes.

I believe everything has a price, so if people offer me 20 bucks for my deeds then that is just fine...If people dont have loot and need, that is fine also...Dont be fooled, marijuana is in no way hard to grow and does not take your whole day away...Hell all I do is water them and time does the rest...Outdoor growers dont really have to do shit other than let nature take its course....If you claim growing marijuana takes your whole day and you work hard, its only because thats what you want it to do....I grow killer weed and it dont take shit to do

look at small beer companys.. you can still make money off of growing bud.... i jus cant wait to walk into a 7-11 and ask for a g of white widow or some shit.. it would be the best block party the day it is legalized.. by the way congress was introduced a bill to make pot legal.. vote ron paul for pres (he is backing it)