ataxia
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I agree with most of what your saying except that molasses is cheap. Sure it's only about 2-4 bucks a bottle. But i buy a bottle almost every other week for my grows. more than i spend per month on any other nutrient.
Why use less molasses? I want my bud as sweet and dense as possible
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bamfrivet
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See if you can find a feed store around you. They sell it in gallon jugs for a decent price.
ClamDigger
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did i ever say it "stops" microbial growth? NO.
i said it SLOWS DOWN microbial growth
Microbes THRIVE in a PH of 6-7.
alphawolf.hack
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man you need to flush with tap water. and save that fucking molasses for some compost tea if you want sweet good bud that means no nutes for the last month of flower adn a god flush about a week before and harvest before the lights come on. the only reason you flush is to get rid of excess nutes and salts. i doesnt stop your plant from feeding but makes less available resulting in a sudden increase of ripening time. as far as density goes if your stalks and stems aint thick then neither are your buds also that has alot more to do with light penetration.
Dubbz0r
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So if my stems and stalks aren't thick then I won't get dense buds?? Proof please.
Also why are you telling people to flush and stop nutrients during the last month? That is the plants most crucial period and no nutes + flushing will cause HIGH stress levels for your plants. You need to do more solid research instead of spreading the same BS that everyone else does. Oh, but if some guy with 3456 posts said so, it must be true! *SLAP* Not true. Starving your plants of nutrients during the final stage of it's life is beyond stupid and will effect your yield, taste, smell among other things... a healthy plant will not need to be flushed. If you're depriving it nutrients, it's not healthy and will begin to eat itself during the last month. ie: leaves turning yellow and falling off, which is not healthy or normal.
alphawolf.hack
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i agree i dont flush fool i was recomending for those that do and it will inprove on taste not smell or qulity tho go ask a breededer fool. also i record and write every thing down my shit runs like a lab i jus like to give advice im not gonna tell anyone to change thier ways and i dont spend all my time on the internet i spend it where it counts. thick stem heavier bud period. and flush if you want.
mugan
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well i have only just started using molasses in my plants but i don't use it alone, in fact here we mix it about 1 part molasses 3 parts water and 1 part EM (effective micro organisms) these will not only help break down the molasses better but after activation they will have a feeding frenzy which will result in nitro, and as they multiply they will end up breaking other plants mater down in the soil, which means any manure or compost you have in the soil will get converted slowly allowing your plants food gradually. i am just beginning to do this in pots with mj but we do it with all our other plants here and it works great, it ensures no top dressing with any chems so we stay very organic.
Dubbz0r
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Obviously you didn't spend much time in elementary school either with that atrocious grammar LOL What the hell is a breededer fool? I might have to add your stupidity to my sig LOL still laughing... haha a breededer. I'm having doubts that you can tie a shoelace let alone run anything close to a lab. Pictures of your 'lab'? Harvests? Proof of anything besides you being an idiot please. First you advise to flush, then you say don't flush... make up your mind dude.
kingofqueen
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Unfortunately RIU is a swimming pool of self pro-claimed pros .
alphawolf.hack
New Member
agreed terrvible grammer. but what i mean about a breeder is the loss of potencey greater vs. chance of ferrtilization.. and also size of bud in relation to fertilized seeds. ie a heavier seeded bud will need a larger stem to support weight which why you should grow males untill flower. so in english for stupid ass is if your plant thinks its going to breed it will grow to a bigger size to increase it chances having fertilized babys therfore resuling in the fact that you will need thicker stem to support weight of bud. other words thick stem w/ or w/o a male is denser bud. nuthin in flower right now but i will show you sum pics to appease you...
alphawolf.hack
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here we go just one room.
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purpz
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"...When bacteria are exposed to high levels of sugar they begin to frenzy (a desired effect within a high oxygen aerobic compost tea system). The unfortunate problem with this activity is that most beneficial bacteria are aerobic. Aerobic organisms use oxygen during activity. In the root zone where oxygen levels are a premium, does this type of stimulation make sense or could it lead to anaerobic conditions? Not to suggest the abandonment of a carbohydrate supplement, simply be aware that this reaction can have a negative effect on plant roots & cause a proliferation of pathenogenic microbes stimulated by the lack of oxygen. Sometimes a little is better then a lot. To benefit microbes, consider insoluble humates or substances like Biochar as more persistent sources of carbon.Carbohydrates can help plants, but "carbs" come in many forms. Once again, testing is the easiest way to determine if there is a desirable benefit-such as an increased yield."I don't get this. I use a tablespoon per gallon in bloom and half that when in veg. And i cant see why i should cut back on this
-words of- Simon Hart
alphawolf.hack
New Member
correct in the sense of high level stress but a good unstressed plant wont notice and if you going w/ dolomite or something i especially wouldn't do it. but your just getting rid if buildup salts nutes sugar ect. and thats why you do it 2 weeks b4 harvest so if it does go into shock it will only be 4 a few days. when you get rid of all the buildup it leaves room for your plant to drain out its nutes back into the soil hence why we harvest b4 lights on.
Dubbz0r
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Plants don't "drain" their nutes back into the soil though... the nutrients added to the soil are absorbed and transformed into plant matter. Plant matter does not disappear regardless of how much you flush, it's impossible.
If you feed your plants properly you shouldn't ever have to worry about any buildups. Just saying...
If you feed your plants properly you shouldn't ever have to worry about any buildups. Just saying...
mugan
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lolz, flushing wars. any way but i have just finished skimming a grow journal where the guy drowns his plant with molasses before harvest to begin cure while the bud is still on the plant. there is endless uses for this stuff. and to add fuel to the fire i personaly don't believe heavy flushing is needed before harvest, if you don't over feed i think you can just keep up your making it rain until you harvest i have smoked bud from plants that have gone through both techniques and never tasted the diff only diff was the guy who feed his plant to the end had more bud on it o.0 (< opinion)
cannawizard
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** YAY, i <3 facts
kingofqueen
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LoL and its an inaccurate flushing war on both sides . Flushing doesnt shock a plant , in simple terms it puts it to sleep . How do explain people that flush all the way through turning out 6oz plants ?