Would this work as a grow box ?

It would be fucking awesome if u used the entire dresser and measure the entire front, pulled the drawers out and cut out the front and wedged in a piece of ply with the same dimensions and glued on the fronts of the drawers to make it look functional but to where the entire face could pull out

For air I would cut 2 four inch holes in the back and put in elbows that u painted black on the inside to keep light from leaking or entering and install a small quiet oscillating fan at the top by the top whole to guide the rising hot air out

If you use a t5 fluorescent bulb set up heat should stay managed with the primitive exhaust and the stealth provided would be awesome for a single plant low stress train plant

Squidbilly said:

4 plants in 5 gals? That seams excessive in such a small space, you could fill that with one plant in a 5 gal, and if you vegged long enough to fill the medium with roots you'll have some BIG plants. I'd say more like 2 in 5 gal. or if you wanted to do 4 plants, I would suggest something smaller then 3 gal.

Honestly, I think a 1 or 2 plant scrog style grow is your best bet in such a small space.

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if he got the right sized pots(maybe just two 10 gals with 2 plants in each) he could pull it off, extensive training with scrog and as i mentioned trying to make the canopy more like a stadium/vertical grow would give him more space for each plant. the right strain would make it a lot easier, and a short veg time(but it all depends how the strain stretches and how long it takes to grow under these conditions).

crazyhazey said:

if he got the right sized pots(maybe just two 10 gals with 2 plants in each) he could pull it off, extensive training with scrog and as i mentioned trying to make the canopy more like a stadium/vertical grow would give him more space for each plant. the right strain would make it a lot easier, and a short veg time(but it all depends how the strain stretches and how long it takes to grow under these conditions).

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10 gal is ridiculous, lol- you could grow a 6' tree in a 10 gal. Unless you veg for over 2 month you not going to fill a ten gal. If you veg for two months, your gonna have a tree that is way to big for the space. If you don't veg long enough to completely fill the medium your wasting time and money- you containers won't dry out fast enough and you'll end up watering like once a week! Less watering/feeding=less yeild.

It is doable using bigger containers, but that's a lot of 'technique' for a newer grower. I have 5 in 4 gal. and one in a 5 gal. (6 total) in my 4x4 tent and a novice probably wouldn't be able to fill that much medium with roots and not out grow the space, my tent is wall to wall and super crowded-if my environment wasn't perfect it would be a reciepie for diaster. It takes a lot of training, manipulating, and skill to do it effectively and efficiently, like you mentioned^^^(utilizing multiple training techniques). You could fill a 4x4 screen with one plant in a 5 gal. You would have to veg well over a month(more like 1.5-2 realistically) to actually fill the 5 gal. containers, so without lst, topping, tying down, and a longer veg 5 gal is over kill.

The other benefit of using smaller containers for a new grower is it allows for more frequent watering. If the root mass doesn't fill the medium it takes WAY longer to dry out which means less feedings and waterings wich equals way less growth and reduced yield.

I wouldn't consider using anything over a 3.5 unless you plan on vegging for over a month and a half.

Screens are best left for 'familiar' strains, meaning it's risky to do it with a strain your not familiar with, or have never seen grown before. A hermie or nanner in a screen is a bad scene, lol. Also, without knowing how much a strain stretches a screen can easily get a new grower in over their head. Not to mention not being able to move the plant. I got love for scrog, but I think it's better left for growers with at least a few harvests under their belt.

Smaller containers are the way to go. I regret using bigger ones this run! It was overkill.

A good rule of thumb is 1 gal for every month the plant will be alive. So if you plan on vegging for a month and flowering for 2, then a 3gal is perfect. If you only doing one plant and plan on vegging longer, then a 5 gal. is the way to go. If you plan on doing more then 2, 2 gal. is the way to go in that space. Look at what other people do, the only people I see using over 5gals are growing TREES.

Squidbilly said:

10 gal is ridiculous, lol- you could grow a 6' tree in a 10 gal. Unless you veg for over 2 month you not going to fill a ten gal. If you veg for two months, your gonna have a tree that is way to big for the space. If you don't veg long enough to completely fill the medium your wasting time and money- you containers won't dry out fast enough and you'll end up watering like once a week! Less watering/feeding=less yeild.

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yeah i said plant two in each 10 gal, its not uncommon for each plant to be in a 5 gal, i hear plenty of people suggest it over 3.5 gal for 12/12 from seed. they develop plenty of root mass within that time if given the right conditions and if they have a good amount of microbes in their soil. and i dont usually feed with each watering, my medium usually has some guano towards the bottom or i put some on the top soil, although plants ive grown in 5 gals dry out usually after 4 days, given im outdoor and have a good amount of perlite in my soil.

Squidbilly said:

It is doable using bigger containers, but that's a lot of 'technique' for a newer grower. I have 5 in 4 gal. and one in a 5 gal. (6 total) in my 4x4 tent and a novice probably wouldn't be able to fill that much medium with roots and not out grow the space, my tent is wall to wall and super crowded-if my environment wasn't perfect it would be a reciepie for diaster. It takes a lot of training, manipulating, and skill to do it effectively and efficiently, like you mentioned^^^(utilizing multiple training techniques). You could fill a 4x4 screen with one plant in a 5 gal. You would have to veg well over a month(more like 1.5-2 realistically) to actually fill the 5 gal. containers, so without lst, topping, tying down, and a longer veg 5 gal is over kill.

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very true, training would probably be hard to get used to, without proper conditions your asking for problems. without training or any somewhat advanced techniques id say 2 plants, probably a pretty short veg too, this is also depending on strain.

Squidbilly said:

The other benefit of using smaller containers for a new grower is it allows for more frequent watering. If the root mass doesn't fill the medium it takes WAY longer to dry out which means less feedings and waterings wich equals way less growth and reduced yield.

I wouldn't consider using anything over a 3.5 unless you plan on vegging for over a month and a half.

Screens are best left for 'familiar' strains, meaning it's risky to do it with a strain your not familiar with, or have never seen grown before. A hermie or nanner in a screen is a bad scene, lol. Also, without knowing how much a strain stretches a screen can easily get a new grower in over their head. Not to mention not being able to move the plant. I got love for scrog, but I think it's better left for growers with at least a few harvests under their belt.

Smaller containers are the way to go. I regret using bigger ones this run! It was overkill.

A good rule of thumb is 1 gal for every month the plant will be alive. So if you plan on vegging for a month and flowering for 2, then a 3gal is perfect. If you only doing one plant and plan on vegging longer, then a 5 gal. is the way to go. If you plan on doing more then 2, 2 gal. is the way to go in that space. Look at what other people do, the only people I see using over 5gals are growing TREES.

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if he utilizes medium additives like perlite, has low humidity, and had a rich medium, he likely wouldnt have problems with watering and not feeding enough.

crazyhazey said:

yeah i said plant two in each 10 gal, its not uncommon for each plant to be in a 5 gal, i hear plenty of people suggest it over 3.5 gal for 12/12 from seed. they develop plenty of root mass within that time if given the right conditions and if they have a good amount of microbes in their soil. and i dont usually feed with each watering, my medium usually has some guano towards the bottom or i put some on the top soil, although plants ive grown in 5 gals dry out usually after 4 days, given im outdoor and have a good amount of perlite in my soil.



very true, training would probably be hard to get used to, without proper conditions your asking for problems. without training or any somewhat advanced techniques id say 2 plants, probably a pretty short veg too, this is also depending on strain.



if he utilizes medium additives like perlite, has low humidity, and had a rich medium, he likely wouldnt have problems with watering and not feeding enough.

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I do agree with all of this^ The real point is being able to fill the contianer with roots before you switch to 12/12 and I find filling anything over a 5 gal requires quite a long veg period-and in turn a pretty big plant. A lot of this is strain dependent-you could grow a 6'+ tall sativa no problem in a 5 gal, but a short indica like GDP might not reach over 3' with the same size root mass/container.

What ever size the op uses the idea is to fill the medium before the switch to 12/12. This will let you water/feed more frequently, which in turn has a positive impact on overall yield.

Another benefit is the ability to flush the medium easier. There is a big difference between flushing a 10 gal. (which requires 30gals(3x the amount of medium)) and a 3 gal, so if any problems start to occur like salt buildup/over feeding/improper ph in the root zone, etc. it's easier for a newer grower to correct.

I always say start small and come harvest time you can evaluate the size of containers you used. If you pull the plant out and see that roots are so dense you couldn't even stick your finger in there, then a bigger container might benefit the strain, if you pull the plant and see the roots barely started to circle the container, you should go smaller next round.

I've been going to big for a long time, lol.

You have to figure out what makes the most sense for your situation. Plant numbers are always something to seriously consider, in my state anything over 5(!) is bad news if law enforcement catches you.