Your best way of perfect cloning

I've read. And I've read some more. It all has the same principles. But my question is. There is ALWAYS back and fourth on EVERY subject on this forum lol. I plan on using my first sog setup to keep my house hold flowing with fresh meds. Anyway. I have a few strains for sog. Such as gsc, big bud, and og kush. But now. What is Your best way of cloning perfecintly. This will be my first time cloning multiple clones.

Will my way work for you?

There are many ways to clone like using straight water, aloe, honey, cloning gels, etc. As far as the technique of cutting the clone, that's pretty clear cut.

Try them all and one should definitely work for you. Good luck.

Thanks! I'm just going to get rooting jell and stick them in rock wool cubes

Blueberries said:

I've read. And I've read some more. It all has the same principles. But my question is. There is ALWAYS back and fourth on EVERY subject on this forum lol. I plan on using my first sog setup to keep my house hold flowing with fresh meds. Anyway. I have a few strains for sog. Such as gsc, big bud, and og kush. But now. What is Your best way of cloning perfecintly. This will be my first time cloning multiple clones.

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GSC? Not the best yields for SOG or for any grow style......

Anyway, everyone has a method that works for them! If someone says "This is what works for me", pay attention. If someone says "This is the best way and the others are wrong or suck", DON'T pay attention to this hack......

I do EZ Cloners and Root Riot cloning.....They both work just fine and have the same 98-99% success rate. The key is CLEANLINESS !!!! Always clean and sanitize your equipment when done. Try a method or 2 and see what works best for you!

Awesome thanks for the tips! Also no sog for gsc? I have read otherwise but would love to hear your opinion if you have the time. So I don't waste mine

Bubble cloner with tepid tap water ph'd to 6.0 works great for me. I add FoxFarm "Grow Big" for hydroponics. My city tap water ppm is about 110 and I'll add enough nutes to put my bubble cloner reservoir @ approx 175 ppm. Roots in approx 10 days & ready to transplant. Bout as simple and effective as they come. I've heard many run this method with just straight ph'd tap water too with excellent results as well.

Here is what I get at about the 10 day mark with the exact setup mentioned above. 100% success rate with over 70 clones so far. Clean bubblers make for good clean roots so dont let your res get slimey or nasty!

Damn those are some nice looking roots. Are those roots before you transplanted them? I would have transplanted them barely seeing a few roots haha! But Wow that's amazing. Well I plan on doing 50 or so clones at once for a sog grow

Root riot cubes, or aero cloner for hard to root cuttings.

I didn't take pics before moving into net pots but this is 14 days after cutting from mom. Root riot cubes in an opaque tote covered and moist. First time using root riot cubes that were gifted and very impressed. Not sure of the cost but if I get 100% success then that's secondary.

Blueberries said:

Damn those are some nice looking roots. Are those roots before you transplanted them? I would have transplanted them barely seeing a few roots haha! But Wow that's amazing. Well I plan on doing 50 or so clones at once for a sog grow

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That was taken right before transplant into hydroton for hydroponic grow. That was about 10 days in a home made bubble cloner I built for about $25 start to finish. With a bubble cloner, its almost hard to mess it up. Highly recommend using one for large quantities of clones going in at a time.

I can give you DIY plans on a larger scale bubble cloner if you are interested?

Yes please! I am also a hydro grower. That would be so greatly appreciated. I'm assuming it's a lid where you put your rock wool cubes and then it pretty much mists the underneath of the rock wool? Or just the underneath of the roots? I've heard of a few diy but would love to know your way.

No rockwool or "medium" but yes the lid of the tote supports the black neoprene plug. The cutting gets inserted into the plug "exactly how it is pictured above" and the plug keeps the cutting suspended right above the res water line. The aerated water bubbles in the tote keep the cutting wet allowing it to form roots. Very simple and easy to transplant once rooted (specially for us hydro guys). Let me dig up my plans and I'll post em asap for ya.

bubble cloners are super hard to get the water level right: too high and stem rot, too low and clone never roots. I would recommend rooting gel and RW. No joke, I was able to root some 10 inch flowering clones in the tiniest of RW cubes without any problems (not recommended, but demonstrates success rate of RW).

It will depend a lot on the plant you cut it off, but most clones need a TON of humidity. Think of creating a humidity dome of some sort. And be careful weaning them from it. I've had more clones die after rooting this way than fail to root.

IamLordeYaYaYa said:

bubble cloners are super hard to get the water level right: too high and stem rot, too low and clone never roots. I would recommend rooting gel and RW. No joke, I was able to root some 10 inch clones in the tiniest of RW cubes without any problems (not recommended).

It will depend a lot on the plant you cut it off, but most clones need a TON of humidity. Think of creating a humidity dome of some sort. And be careful weaning them from it. I've had more clones die after rooting this way than fail to root.

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Clones dont need a ton of humidity. No dome is needed either. Maybe if you were sprouting seedlings all that may be necessary? Cant say I've ever had a problem with water levels since the roots only need to be about 1/2" - 1" above the water line. No science to it really.

Hell yes awesome help guys! I'll keep the humidity of my cloning room at 50% as well as my veg room so it won't shock them to bad.

Also. I have a bubble cloned I have used for some flowers me and my wife tried to clone! I am gonna have to dig it up. But it's exactly as you describe.... It has rubber gourmets that holds the stem and the stem is submerged underneath and then the water and bubbles keep the stem wet. Would you still use rooting gel?

I dont use any rooting gels, but you can try and see what works best for you. I just use a very small amount og FF Grow Big for hydro. Just enough to bump up the ppm. I like to keep my res water for the cloner under 200ppm. My very first time using the bubble cloner, I used just straight tap water ph'd to 6.0 and they rooted fine. I seem to think I get quicker results with an elevated ppm over my city tap water ppm of approx 100.

My water is 1900 ppms so yeah I can't drink my water lol but I have an RO system here. That's weird you get better results using elevated nutrients. Since there are no roots to even absorb them yet. But that is definitely an interesting analogy

Edit: also I plan on using Chanel/ sour diseal kush/ gsc / big bud for my sogs is gsc not a good choice? It is an indica is it because it doesn't clone well? I've read where it says it does wonderful on sog

HydroRed said:

Clones dont need a ton of humidity. No dome is needed either. Maybe if you were sprouting seedlings all that may be necessary?

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70-80% humidity is what I have always heard for clones. Since they dont have roots they need high RH to keep the plant from drying out.

You dont need to worry about humidity in a bubble or aero cloner, but you do if you want to use a solid medium to clone in:.
ASSUMING SUCESS RATES ARE RELATIVELY EQUAL (Which I don't), HERE ARE SOME +/- ON THE 2 MAIN KINDS

Bubble/Aero:
+Startup, but no variable equipment cost
+Roots develop faster
+Humidity is not so much an issue
-Roots are harder to transplant into netpot (risk of breaking more)
-likely to lose the entire batch at once
-Takes time to build
-takes more resources (Pump, power, stones)
-Likely going to cut more of the plant to fill the cloner (& have clones you dont need)
Variables: Water temp and water level

Rockwool, Rapid Rooters, etc:
+1 or 2 out of 10 might not root, but you wont lose them all unless you really fuckup
+RW cubes are much easier to safely transplant into hydro or soil
+Better environment for Beneficial bacteria
-need to worry about humidity & Weaning
-slower to root (Or at least have roots accessible)
-have to shell out 16 cents a RW plug or so, but little-no startup cost. $3 cloning petri dishes at hydro store are amazing
Variables: RH