Poll: Majority of Dems has favorable view of George W. Bush

Chezus

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Nope that was on Baby Bush and Cheney.
Papa Bush understood how far he wanted to fight Saddam. We could have continue the war after Kuwait but he did not . We just pushed Saddam out and he still was our puppet
That whole war was a setup. And yes you are right. Papa Bush knew taking out Hussein was the worse thing we could do it was only when the neocons convinced junior it could be done with us filling in the vacuum that we recently invaded for the second time. Now we broke it. And really fucked up the whole region
 

schuylaar

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Keep repeating that, even though 9% of Democrats jumped ship and cast their vote for Trump

You're still in the 'denial' stage. Next stop 'acceptance'
i thought it was anger after denial..that's the stage the BBC's (Bucky Ballwashers Club) are at currently.
 
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abandonconflict

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Bill was also acquitted
That's what these tards don't get. They don't seem to know what impeachment is. The same idiots think that Clinton getting impeached over a blowjob somehow hurt him. People aren't that stupid. Despite the way they insist how dumb Americans are, most of us saw it for what it was and see the difference between that and Trump getting impeached so that he can be held responsible. They seem to think that impeachment by the legislative branch is the same as criminal charges by judiciaries.

When Clinton got impeached, his approval improved because people had jobs and there was a budget surplus. Gingrich looked like an asshole for the way he rambled over it hypocritically while he was cheating on his own wife with that fucking harpy. Nobody remembers Ken Starr, his entire investigation ended up with an aquittal, wasting huge amounts of money. Even his "punishment", censure, was ineffective because bipartisanship was at an all-time high. Gingrich wasted political capital OVER POTUS GETTING A BLOWJOB!

If Trump is impeached so that he can be held responsible for his very real crimes with very serious political implications very much involving his role as POTUS, it will completely neuter him. As it is, he is blocked from doing anything by the other branches of gov't. His own party is turning on him and the alt-right (American neofascism) can not possibly survive Trump being impeached. It will probably bring the old faction of the GOP back into bipartisanship with the DNC.
 

ttystikk

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Gosh and it looks like the GOP is getting right on that, too. Because they never miss an opportunity to show how they can be counted on to do the right and moral thing, right?

...right?
 

abandonconflict

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Gosh and it looks like the GOP is getting right on that, too. Because they never miss an opportunity to show how they can be counted on to do the right and moral thing, right?

...right?
Why would they? How does anything I said suggest that I think it matters? People will remember how those fuckers vote. They won't risk their careers to sink with him. It would be their opportunity to ostracize their biggest liability. If he were impeached, they would be pretty much forced to turn completely against him politically. That is just another reason to impeach. You don't seem to want him impeached...

hhmmm
 

ttystikk

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Why would they? How does anything I said suggest that I think they would. If he were impeached, they would be pretty much forced to turn completely against him politically. That is just another reason to impeach. You don't seem to want him impeached, or maybe you don't want the GOP to lose majority in the legislative branch...

hhmmm
I want his continued malignant yet still mostly harmless narcissistic insanity to continue poisoning the Republican brand for as long as it takes for them to grow a spine and introduce the Articles of Impeachment themselves. I've never once suggested that Democrats shouldn't support such a resolution, only that they don't initiate it. Besides, they can't advance it without bipartisan support; Republicans must be involved no matter what. Why not invite them to take the lead? Where is their vaunted morality now?

And the longer it takes, the worse they look...
 

abandonconflict

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I want his continued malignant yet still mostly harmless narcissistic insanity to continue poisoning the Republican brand for as long as it takes for them to grow a spine and introduce the Articles of Impeachment themselves. I've never once suggested that Democrats shouldn't support such a resolution, only that they don't initiate it. Besides, they can't advance it without bipartisan support; Republicans must be involved no matter what. Why not invite them to take the lead? Where is their vaunted morality now?

And the longer it takes, the worse they look...
Bullshit. All of this is complete bullshit. It must be nice having nothing to fear from the fucking POTUS being a neofascist such that you're in no hurry to see him take a fall.

Completely transparent.
 

ttystikk

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Bullshit. All of this is complete bullshit. It must be nice having nothing to fear from the fucking POTUS being a neofascist such that you're in no hurry to see him take a fall.

Completely transparent.
Exactly how would impeaching him help anyone? Pence is at least as noxious and he's competent AND highly connected. A Democrat led impeachment campaign would play right into his hands. You're ex-military, think tactically, man!

And in the interim, who's getting hurt and how? Are you saying that without the Chump in the White House none of this would have happened? How the fuck would you know that? You got crystal balls?

America is being forced to confront its racist tendencies, which while ugly in the short term, will ultimately be cathartic.

Surely you're as sick and tired as I am of hearing white people talk about how we aren't a racist nation anymore, after the Civil Rights movement? Well, the current right wing nationalist racist resurgence rubs their nose in the fact that we got work to do and we need to get to doing it.

Next to that task, impeachment is a sideshow.
 

schuylaar

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I want his continued malignant yet still mostly harmless narcissistic insanity to continue poisoning the Republican brand for as long as it takes for them to grow a spine and introduce the Articles of Impeachment themselves. I've never once suggested that Democrats shouldn't support such a resolution, only that they don't initiate it. Besides, they can't advance it without bipartisan support; Republicans must be involved no matter what. Why not invite them to take the lead? Where is their vaunted morality now?

And the longer it takes, the worse they look...
republicans are whores that would sell their mothers down the river if they thought there was a tax cut in it.

once they realize they can't get what they want, they'll move on it..that's the only reason they've been holding out.
 

schuylaar

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Exactly how would impeaching him help anyone? Pence is at least as noxious and he's competent AND highly connected. A Democrat led impeachment campaign would play right into his hands. You're ex-military, think tactically, man!

And in the interim, who's getting hurt and how? Are you saying that without the Chump in the White House none of this would have happened? How the fuck would you know that? You got crystal balls?

America is being forced to confront its racist tendencies, which while ugly in the short term, will ultimately be cathartic.

Surely you're as sick and tired as I am of hearing white people talk about how we aren't a racist nation anymore, after the Civil Rights movement? Well, the current right wing nationalist racist resurgence rubs their nose in the fact that we got work to do and we need to get to doing it.

Next to that task, impeachment is a sideshow.
the moderates will not align with him either..this is more than just trump now.
 
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