Microarthropods?

PadawanWarrior

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Hmmm... not to mention the OP has all those mites, but is not complaining about gnat flies. Hmmm... wonder why that is? ;)

We just need to watch our plants. If they're having a good time, then so should we!
You beat me to that while I was typing, lol.

I can't type fast enough on this damn IPad, lol.
 

Kaotic

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You're a lost cause man. I know fungus gnats prefer moisture. There are ways around it though. Mosquito Bits, or predators. He already has hypoaspis miles mites that will have any fungus gnats gone in days. But Bti bacteria will work too.

I grow in no-till living organic soil, so I keep my soil moist and I haven't seen a gnat since I bought the FFOF 2 years ago. I used the FFOF for the base. Anyways, move on man. I don't wanna hi jack his thread anymore with nonsense.
Remember your the one who’s judging me for info on “natural” prevention of gnats, I’ve never judged you once, bacteria will work but why have gnats all over your soil wouldn’t you want to prevent that infestation?
 

PadawanWarrior

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Remember your the one who’s judging me for info on “natural” prevention of gnats, I’ve never judged you once, bacteria will work but why have gnats all over your soil wouldn’t you want to prevent that infestation?
I just have a problem with people spreading misinformation.

Gnat larva can actually be beneficial in living soil, but I don't want to see them flying around. They help break down organic matter and provide food for the beneficial mites and other predators. Like I said though I haven't seen one in a couple years and I keep my soil moist.

In coco I'd probably want to kill everything, but I don't grow with coco so I have no actual expertise using it.

Now move on.
 

Northwood

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Remember your the one who’s judging me for info on “natural” prevention of gnats, I’ve never judged you once, bacteria will work but why have gnats all over your soil wouldn’t you want to prevent that infestation?
Okay I'll chime in again, even though my eyes are closing and I'm HAF. Obviously no one wants gnat larvae throughout their soil. That's #1.

Some of us do no-till, where preventative measures are like @PadawanWarrior said are used, and they're just natural. He knows what he's talking about. I keep my humus layer that lies underneath my mulch a bit moist at all times. It's not hard to do because of the mulch. It should be a great invitation to pests like fungus gnats, but we build up an environment and population of predators that if any poor little egg laying female gnat fly did come into the tent, it's young would be devoured very quickly. Poor critters, but I hate things with wings that can get stuck in your buds. Lol
 

Kaotic

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I just have a problem with people spreading misinformation.

Gnat larva can actually be beneficial in living soil, but I don't want to see them flying around. They help break down organic matter and provide food for the beneficial mites and other predators. Like I said though I haven't seen one in a couple years and I keep my soil moist.

In coco I'd probably want to kill everything, but I don't grow with coco so I have no actual expertise using it.

Now move on.
Lol dude how am I spreading misinformation, everything I have stated was a fact, there are fungus gnats larvae that feed in the soil and not on your plants roots, but either way you don’t want to see gnat larvae in your soil there are others teeming in there that you wanna see , hundreds, moving on now.
 

Kaotic

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Okay I'll chime in again, even though my eyes are closing and I'm HAF. Obviously no one wants gnat larvae throughout their soil. That's #1.

Some of us do no-till, where preventative measures are like @PadawanWarrior said are used, and they're just natural. He knows what he's talking about. I keep my humus layer that lies underneath my mulch a bit moist at all times. It's not hard to do because of the mulch. It should be a great invitation to pests like fungus gnats, but we build up an environment and population of predators that if any poor little egg laying female gnat fly did come into the tent, it's young would be devoured very quickly. Poor critters, but I hate things with wings that can get stuck in your buds. Lol
Totally agree with you, as I have stated that before, there are bacteria that protect from bad bacteria and fungi a good example is LAB Bacillus Bacteria, I’m just saying what you just said right after my last post, you don’t want to see gnat larvae in your soil so good job!
 

PadawanWarrior

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Totally agree with you, as I have stated that before, there are bacteria that protect from bad bacteria and fungi a good example is LAB Bacillus Bacteria, I’m just saying what you just said right after my last post, you don’t want to see gnat larvae in your soil so good job!
I thought you were moving on, lol?
 

Northwood

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Totally agree with you, as I have stated that before, there are bacteria that protect from bad bacteria and fungi a good example is LAB Bacillus Bacteria, I’m just saying what you just said right after my last post, you don’t want to see gnat larvae in your soil so good job!
Huh? You made my head spin man, so thumbs up. But why on earth you do want lactic acid in your soil? Is there a reason for it? There are literally millions of soil bacteria that could exist in soil and many are adopted to fix or transform compounds around it to a form that plants can eat. They actually want to compete against Lactobacillus. All the "LAB" do is eat sugar and poop lactic acid. I think you need to focus on different groups of bacterial to make you soil work for you TBH.
 

PadawanWarrior

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Huh? You made my head spin man, so thumbs up. But why on earth you do want lactic acid in your soil? Is there a reason for it? There are literally millions of soil bacteria that could exist in soil and many are adopted to fix or transform compounds around it to a form that plants can eat. They actually want to compete against Lactobacillus. All the "LAB" do is eat sugar and poop lactic acid. I think you need to focus on different groups of bacterial to make you soil work for you TBH.
I think we need to be the mature ones and just stop responding, lol. Sorry OP for the Shit Show.
 

Star Dog

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I've been using coco for years, I don't believe in a wet dry cycle, every time a pot dries fine roots die off, I feed every 12 hrs my coco is always wet but i've never had fungus gnats.
Fungus gnats or any other pest have to get in to your room 1st, I keep my inlets filtered.
 

Kaotic

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I've been using coco for years, I don't believe in a wet dry cycle, every time a pot dries fine roots die off, I feed every 12 hrs my coco is always wet but i've never had fungus gnats.
Fungus gnats or any other pest have to get in to your room 1st, I keep my inlets filtered.
You should believe in a wet dry cycle lol, wet environments tend to grow bacteria of all types and algae. Also fine roots and hyphae only start to die off in extremely dry soil that hasn’t been treated with water.
 

PadawanWarrior

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You should believe in a wet dry cycle lol, wet environments tend to grow bacteria of all types and algae. Also fine roots and hyphae only start to die off in extremely dry soil that hasn’t been treated with water.
Put the meth away for the night.
 

Star Dog

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You should believe in a wet dry cycle lol, wet environments tend to grow bacteria of all types and algae. Also fine roots and hyphae only start to die off in extremely dry soil that hasn’t been treated with water.
I average 2+ gpw do you?
With respect I've heard the forum expert theories, I just stick with what works for me, no disrespect.

I don't suppose you read the earlier thread where I stated that my coco was living?
https://www.rollitup.org/t/microarthropods.1033193/ post #12
 
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Kaotic

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I average 2+ gpw what about you?
With respect I've heard the forum expert theories, I just stick with what works for me.

I don't suppose you read the earlier thread where I stated that my coco was living?
https://www.rollitup.org/t/microarthropods.1033193/ post #12
No I didn’t read your post earlier, I’ve grown 7 foot plants indoor with coco coir, what are you stating, that a wet dry cycle is wrong? Because it’s not lol. I’ve grown the stickiest tallest buds with coco that’s you’ve probably ever seen, I’m talking can’t roll the blunt sticky...that’s soil life, go do your research constantly wetting your soil and not letting it dry cause lack of oxygen in the soil and a host of other problems. But you heard of the experts theories just stick with what works for you I guess.
 

Medskunk

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This thread was a nice read up until gnats.

I been noticing in my worm bin, when the temperatures are just right and they multiply like crazy, that some try to escape due to overpopulation. So one day i check and theres 20-30 worms close to the top edge, the next day ill check again and theres tones of springtails by there munching on the worms. So in a way they re balancing the wormbins population.

A year ago i wanted to get rid of the springtails so i didnt feed for more than 45days and blimey they were gone, strictly worm action in there!
After that i started feeding sparingly and 3-4 months in they re numbers were up again. They re just natives so i let them be. Hail to the forest
 

PadawanWarrior

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This thread was a nice read up until gnats.

I been noticing in my worm bin, when the temperatures are just right and they multiply like crazy, that some try to escape due to overpopulation. So one day i check and theres 20-30 worms close to the top edge, the next day ill check again and theres tones of springtails by there munching on the worms. So in a way they re balancing the wormbins population.

A year ago i wanted to get rid of the springtails so i didnt feed for more than 45days and blimey they were gone, strictly worm action in there!
After that i started feeding sparingly and 3-4 months in they re numbers were up again. They re just natives so i let them be. Hail to the forest
The gnats are strong in this thread.
 

Star Dog

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You should believe in a wet dry cycle lol, wet environments tend to grow bacteria of all types and algae. Also fine roots and hyphae only start to die off in extremely dry soil that hasn’t been treated with water.
I first noticed plants that are kept wet come on much b
No I didn’t read your post earlier, I’ve grown 7 foot plants indoor with coco coir, what are you stating, that a wet dry cycle is wrong? Because it’s not lol. I’ve grown the stickiest tallest buds with coco that’s you’ve probably ever seen, I’m talking can’t roll the blunt sticky...that’s soil life, go do your research constantly wetting your soil and not letting it dry cause lack of oxygen in the soil and a host of other problems. But you heard of the experts theories just stick with what works for you I guess.
I think you should read the post 1st.
P. s my intension wasn't to be a smart arse.
 

Kaotic

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I first noticed plants that are kept wet come on much b

I think you should read the post 1st.
P. s my intension wasn't to be a smart arse.
My bad seemed like you were bragging lol, my apologies didn’t mean to come off like that, but a wet dry cycle is important
 
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