Microarthropods?

Kaotic

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I first noticed plants that are kept wet come on much b

I think you should read the post 1st.
P. s my intension wasn't to be a smart arse.
Yup anything with soil needs life to produce healthy plants or even sustain a plant
 

Kaotic

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I first noticed plants that are kept wet come on much b

I think you should read the post 1st.
P. s my intension wasn't to be a smart arse.
Hydro doesnt have much life at all, and springtails do like moist environments I used to see them all the time in my house. Usually in bathrooms
 

Star Dog

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My bad seemed like you were bragging lol, my apologies didn’t mean to come off like that, but a wet dry cycle is important
I can't say it isn't case but I get the best results being kept moist, if you look at my coco with a microscope it's heaving with life, I've commented about it 2 maybe 3 times in the past 7/10 days.
 

Kaotic

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I can't say it isn't case but I get the best results being kept moist, if you look at my coco with a microscope it's heaving with life, I've commented about it 2 maybe 3 times in the past 7/10 days.
Coco drinks, I used to water my plants every day with coco, from the top about 2 inches down should be dry before watering again
 

Kaotic

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Coco drinks, I used to water my plants every day with coco, from the top about 2 inches down should be dry before watering again
Like a cool dry feeling when you dig your finger in, keeping it wet all the time and not letting it dry at will keep from oxygen going in soil, you use coco so it has a lot of oxygen content which is another reason why it dries out quicker and more even but soil that is moist all the time will invite algae and other bacteria. You might not really notice it on the plant you might see little differences but it does invite them.
 

Star Dog

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Like a cool dry feeling when you dig your finger in, keeping it wet all the time and not letting it dry at will keep from oxygen going in soil, you use coco so it has a lot of oxygen content which is another reason why it dries out quicker and more even but soil that is moist all the time will invite algae and other bacteria. You might not really notice it on the plant you might see little differences but it does invite them.
Yes but then my roots would die that I have growing at the very to of substrate ;-)
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I'm giving roots the best conditions, that's lab science not bro science lol.

Cheers SD
 

hybridway2

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I tried coco for a couple runs. My wife was about to divorce me if I didn't get rid of the fungus gnats. I had yellow cards hanging everywhere on strings like Christmas lights. So embarrassing. It was just a manual flow-through nutrient water solution with coco/perlite in 5 gallon fabric pots.

Thank goodness I've never seen that again. And plus I'm still married. Hahaha
Just reduce watering bud. Its the most aerated media you're gonna get aside from perlite/hemp. Either adequate run off or feed with water only once every 10-14 days. Should be fine. Oscillating floor
Fans will prevent flying bugs along with just a few stickies to kill the life cycle. Low, near the media.
 

Northwood

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Just reduce watering bud. Its the most aerated media you're gonna get aside from perlite/hemp. Either adequate run off or feed with water only once every 10-14 days. Should be fine. Oscillating floor
Fans will prevent flying bugs along with just a few stickies to kill the life cycle. Low, near the media.
I don't do hydro anymore. Allowing the humus layer of my soil to dry out completely wouldn't work well with my current grow style. I haven't seen any gnats in the last 5 grow cycles, so I don't bother using stickies anymore.
 

Kaotic

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Yes but then my roots would die that I have growing at the very to of substrate ;-)
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I'm giving roots the best conditions, that's lab science not bro science lol.

Cheers SD
Your roots at the top are alive because the top of the soil dries out the quickest, I’ll bet you that the roots all the way at the bottom are in some kind of rotting and trapped situation searching for dryness, plant roots can’t tolerate moist environments with no dryness at all, if you google and do all your research it will tell you, I have you one source already.
 

Kaotic

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Yes but then my roots would die that I have growing at the very to of substrate ;-)
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I'm giving roots the best conditions, that's lab science not bro science lol.

Cheers SD
Your growing in soil bro, not hydro, hydro doesn’t have much life in it on it, because there is no soil. So literally your just drowning beneficials, all life because I’m pretty sure any critters or any microbes don’t like being flooded and drowned all the time, and your roots.
 

Kaotic

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Yes but then my roots would die that I have growing at the very to of substrate ;-)
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I'm giving roots the best conditions, that's lab science not bro science lol.

Cheers SD
Pythium is a fungi that attacks the root systems of plants. It tends to be more of a problem in hydroponic systems and in warm weather. But it also attacks roots in soil that is constantly wet and has low oxygen content. A wet dry cycle works better in a compost situation. A totally dry 6 litre root ball will take to saturation level .75 to 1 litre of water depending on the compost. Now you don’t want this to completely dry out, let it get fairly dry but not enough for the compost to shrink away from the sides of the pot. Then water through from the top slowly. It is best when you are learning to stand your pots in a small pot tray, water until you have a half an inch in the tray, leave them for 15 mins if all the water is drawn in, water again until you have a half an inch again. Give another 15 mins or half an hour, any water left in the tray tip it out the root ball is now saturated. But if it has all been drawn up repeat top watering until you get to the saturated stage.

Tip: Don’t ever leave the plant in the tray with water in for more than an hour or so at the most.
You should not water or feed until you get back to the dry stage again. As the plants draw the water out of the compost, air with oxygen gets drawn into the compost keeping the medium aerobic. When you water through to saturation all the stale gasses get driven out and the cycle starts again. If growing marijuana in Coco/Perlite, the cycle will be faster than with a soil grow – another advantage to this mix, fresh oxygen in the pots more often.
 

Kaotic

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Yes but then my roots would die that I have growing at the very to of substrate ;-)
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I'm giving roots the best conditions, that's lab science not bro science lol.

Cheers SD
what your doing is pretty much give the plant it’s water without it doing any root navigation to find some creating moist soil conditions, your giving a buffet every time it’s breakfast or dinner time.
 

NukaKola

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It’s a weed plant bro bro lol
Your information regarding coco is completely incorrect. I’ve been growing in coco for the last 6 years and it absolutely does not need a dry cycle. Never had algae, never had bugs. Coco is so porous that even when fully saturated it still provides plenty of oxygen to the root zone. Coco is treated like hydro, does DWC get dry cycles?
 

Kaotic

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Your information regarding coco is completely incorrect. I’ve been growing in coco for the last 6 years and it absolutely does not need a dry cycle. Never had algae, never had bugs. Coco is so porous that even when fully saturated it still provides plenty of oxygen to the root zone. Coco is treated like hydro, does DWC get dry cycles?
Ok and I did state that even though it’s saturated it does still have oxygen because it’s coco, and coco is not hydro you don’t treat it like “hydro”, I’ve grown a 7ft gelato plant indoors by herself under HPS trust me you don’t want to keep having your “soil” moist because it is “soil”, not hydro or DWC it’s a substrate let’s get that straight, big plants in coco like my gelato will drink up the water in there in one day, even all the way deep down the “soil”, so it does get its dry cycle you may not think it does but your wrong.
 

PadawanWarrior

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Ok and I did state that even though it’s saturated it does still have oxygen because it’s coco, and coco is not hydro you don’t treat it like “hydro”, I’ve grown a 7ft gelato plant indoors by herself under HPS trust me you don’t want to keep having your “soil” moist because it is “soil”, not hydro or DWC it’s a substrate let’s get that straight, big plants in coco like my gelato will drink up the water in there in one day, even all the way deep down the “soil”, so it does get its dry cycle you may not think it does but your wrong.
Pics or it didn't happen.
 

Kaotic

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Your information regarding coco is completely incorrect. I’ve been growing in coco for the last 6 years and it absolutely does not need a dry cycle. Never had algae, never had bugs. Coco is so porous that even when fully saturated it still provides plenty of oxygen to the root zone. Coco is treated like hydro, does DWC get dry cycles?
So the terminology that it doesn’t need a “dry cycle” is “completely” incorrect. Plus you’ll find hundreds of articles about a wet-dry cycle, do your research on that then come back and make a post.
 

Kaotic

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Your information regarding coco is completely incorrect. I’ve been growing in coco for the last 6 years and it absolutely does not need a dry cycle. Never had algae, never had bugs. Coco is so porous that even when fully saturated it still provides plenty of oxygen to the root zone. Coco is treated like hydro, does DWC get dry cycles?
And as I also stated in a post hydro or dwc doesn’t get as much cultures as organic soil does, hydro plants are big because they get plenty of water yes but also oxygen ta da..
 
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