Evolution Or God?

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PadawanBarter: I have already told you why I believe and how I PERSONALLY know. No one can 'make God appera or whatever. But He will reveal, make himself known to those who diligently seek him.

As for my quesgtion- "Do you (or anyone eles) have a spirit?" It's not up to me to tell you what you may or may not have. You should know or believe if you have one or not.

I'm not side-stepping the issue. If I were- I would not have written one word.

I don't care if you believe me or not. If you don't want to know any of this- don't read it and don't think about it. Spend the rest of your life telling everybody the 'believers' are wrong.

Use all the words and pages you want.

Do you have a spirit? Do you believe you have a spirit?

It's a simple yes or no.

And why should anyone listen to someone- when talking about God- who doesen't even know or believe that he or she has a spirit?

You may say you don't. And then you spend your time/life telling others that they don't have one either...???...
 
medicineman

medicineman

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Haul me to Heaven said:
PadawanBarter: I have already told you why I believe and how I PERSONALLY know. No one can 'make God appera or whatever. But He will reveal, make himself known to those who diligently seek him.

As for my quesgtion- "Do you (or anyone eles) have a spirit?" It's not up to me to tell you what you may or may not have. You should know or believe if you have one or not.

I'm not side-stepping the issue. If I were- I would not have written one word.

I don't care if you believe me or not. If you don't want to know any of this- don't read it and don't think about it. Spend the rest of your life telling everybody the 'believers' are wrong.

Use all the words and pages you want.

Do you have a spirit? Do you believe you have a spirit?

It's a simple yes or no.

And why should anyone listen to someone- when talking about God- who doesen't even know or believe that he or she has a spirit?

You may say you don't. And then you spend your time/life telling others that they don't have one either...???...
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If you are a "man of God", have a "spirit", "believe in the teachings of christ", why are you so selfish?
 
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medicineman said:
I really don't know, but are you not against most social programs, programs that may require you to pay taxes to fund them, as In "give unto Ceasar what is ceasars and give unto God what is Gods"?
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What you don't know about the IRS Code is amazing!

So too your lack of knowledge on where true taxes were to originally have come from and what they were to have funded.

Let me ask you the most basic of questions to show you just how much you don't know...

Are you being taxed on the amount of money that you made/were paid? Or on the activity?

Hint:
What activities are taxable in the Code?

Is the word "Income" defined in the IRS Code?

If you have a fundumental right to work and to receive just compensation for your work AND you know that rights are not taxable- how can they tax your 'compensation/wage or as some call it- income?

Do you know what the actual name of a W-2 is? W-4 etc??

Heres a hint:
If the government had a 'right' to your money- they would need your permission to take it.

Do you know the difference between Soverign and subject?

Conversion?

How funny. That told me so much about you.
It also filled in the blanks in the minds of others.

BTW: Judea was a conqured country.
They had to pay tribute to Ceaser.

Your lack of knowledge on 'tribute' also says a lot about your knowledge of the tax code and our original rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights, US Federal and Supreme Case law etc.
 
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And- I PERSONALLY fund programs of my choice. Uncle Scam can not tell me to fund anything. I am not subject to the code. It's that simple. And neither are you but you don't know it. Knoledge equals Freedom.
 
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Haul me to Heaven said:
PadawanBarter: I have already told you why I believe and how I PERSONALLY know. No one can 'make God appera or whatever. But He will reveal, make himself known to those who diligently seek him.

As for my quesgtion- "Do you (or anyone eles) have a spirit?" It's not up to me to tell you what you may or may not have. You should know or believe if you have one or not.

I'm not side-stepping the issue. If I were- I would not have written one word.

I don't care if you believe me or not. If you don't want to know any of this- don't read it and don't think about it. Spend the rest of your life telling everybody the 'believers' are wrong.

Use all the words and pages you want.

Do you have a spirit? Do you believe you have a spirit?

It's a simple yes or no.

And why should anyone listen to someone- when talking about God- who doesen't even know or believe that he or she has a spirit?

You may say you don't. And then you spend your time/life telling others that they don't have one either...???...
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Dude, your line of logic is nothing short of astounding!

So let me get this straight...

According to you, because I, as an atheist, clearly don't believe in such things as ghosts, gods, demons, souls, spirits, etc. That automatically excludes me from speaking about them!

...seriously?... ..... ...... Dude, really? Really?

So then I guess that means you can't say anything about evolution, the big bang theory, cell theory, atomic theory, string theory, fuck it, pretty much science as a whole, right?

No, you doofus, yes I said doofus becasue your reasoing is so damn bad. Knowledge isn't attained like that.

Spirits have never been observed, measured, or recorded in any way, shape or form. Spirits do not exist in reality, in any meaningful sense of the word anyway, my reality, reality here on Earth.

Again, people who believe they have a spirit, or a soul and speak to God are delusional. Their religion brainwashes them into believing this shit.

Think it over.
 
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PadawanBater said:
Dude, your line of logic is nothing short of astounding!

So let me get this straight...



...seriously?... ..... ...... Dude, really? Really?

So then I guess that means you can't say anything about evolution, the big bang theory, cell theory, atomic theory, string theory, fuck it, pretty much science as a whole, right?

No, you doofus, yes I said doofus becasue your reasoing is so damn bad. Knowledge isn't attained like that.

Spirits have never been observed, measured, or recorded in any way, shape or form. Spirits do not exist in reality, in any meaningful sense of the word anyway, my reality, reality here on Earth.

Again, people who believe they have a spirit, or a soul and speak to God are delusional. Their religion brainwashes them into believing this shit.

Think it over.
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And still you twist and turn- all the while avoiding at all cost the opertunity to answer a single question. How pathetic.

I said you can talk and write all you want and you twist that into saying 'I said' the opposite:
You wrote: "According to you, because I, as an atheist, clearly don't believe in such things as ghosts, gods, demons, souls, spirits, etc. That automatically excludes me from speaking about them! "

I wrote: "I don't care if you believe me or not. If you don't want to know any of this- don't read it and don't think about it. Spend the rest of your life telling everybody the 'believers' are wrong.

Use all the words and pages you want."

You just want me to answer my question for you so you can argue with my answer.
Nice try.
 
ancap

ancap

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Padawan,

You have no grounds on which to even begin answering this question he posed because he refuses to establish a mutually agreeable definition of the term "spirit". I have a crystal ball in front of me... This conversation will go absolutely nowhere for both parties, except for leading to an emotional escalation!

Damn, I said I withdrew! :cuss:
 
medicineman

medicineman

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ancap said:
I withdraw from the "spirit" conversation. :???:
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I suppose one that either has no spirit or believes they have no spirit would absolutely withdraw. Spirit may mean one thing to one person and another to someone else. I'd suggest this for you: Fast for 2 weeks, then during the second week of the fast, eat at least 4-8 peyote buttons every day and get back to me about spirit. I submit you may have some new opinions on the subject.
 
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Again- for the third or fourth time. Do you believe you have a spirit?

Why can't either of you answer that?

Anybody else want to answer that? I do. Big deal. If you don't- so what! It sure drove these two nuts!

Lot of words but never a simple yes or no from either one of them.
I'm done with this thread. Now watch the flying pot shots come and maybe an answer.
 
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I would have to agree (snicker, snicker, snicker) LOL !
Nice post regarding the MIAC report. Post the info in that and the other reports you mentioned over on For all the Vets- Thank you!
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