1st grow - CFL's - Top 44 and unknowns

smoothdemon · Oct 2, 2008

Hi everybody, i had a thread going and then realized it should have been in a grow journal, so here I go.

I bought 2 packs of seeds from marijuana seeds .nl
One was a Top 44 pack and the other was a seed mix including:

BIG BUD
NORTHERN LIGHTS
BUBBLEGUM
WHITE WIDOW
CRYSTAL ICE

I wanted 2-3 female plants in the end, so I germinated 6 seeds on Sept 18th.
Two of them were Top 44, Four of them where from the mix bag.

smoothdemon · Oct 2, 2008

5 sprouted by Sept 21st,

so I planted them in Jiffy cups in soiless jiffy mix (mostly peat moss) and hung two 5500k cfls above them.

I kept them in a tupperware container with the bottom filled with water - per advice of somebody.

smoothdemon · Oct 2, 2008

Sept 26th I planted the seedlings in 1 gallon containers

Added two more cfls (they were 2700k but i changed them to 6500k from somebody's advice)

Added yeast in a liter bottle with holes drilled in the cap (1 packet of yeast, 3/4 liter water, and like 10 tablespoons of sugar).

Temperature was about 86-88 degrees F but i've gotten it down to 80-82 degrees F.

Grow box is 3.5 ft tall, 2.5 ft wide, 1.5 ft deep. Frame is wood, walls are 1/2inch styrofoam insulation painted brown with mylar on the inside. It has 2 computer fans up top blowing out and 2 vent holes on the bottom sucking in.

smoothdemon · Oct 2, 2008

That brings us to today. (Day 12)

The pots were filled with mixed soil with this approximate ratio:

5-miracle gro moisture control soil - 2 jiffy soiless mix - 3 vermiculite..

The seedlings are all happy now. Three are growing really fast while the other two have some catching up to do. I water them with fish tank water every morning a little bit, making sure not to overwater. They are on 18/6 light cycle.

Attached are recent pics, the temp/humidity conditions/ and my fish tank :-P

Questions, comments welcomed.

TodayIsAGreenday · Oct 2, 2008

looking good brotha :bigjoint:

wackymack · Oct 2, 2008

kill the alum foil,did the roots go through the biodegradable pot?if not then remove the plants from there bc they tend to have a high ph,glad ur havin success wit ur seeds,i tried ms.nl once and had horrible success,bad germ rate,hermed and just all around bad genes,i got a feminized pack. it was a bad investment on my behalf and i normally get between 98-100% success all the time,i only got 2 plants out of 10,one hermed,the other i gave it a real bad burn and it died,got to close to the lights and forgot to ajust the light that day

smoothdemon · Oct 2, 2008

Thanks TodayIsAGreenday

Hey wackymack - It's mylar, not foil, it came in squares, the only way i could find it, but it works. Also i cut the jiffy cups with a razor blade across the bottom and sides when i transplanted. I hope my seeds turn out better, I actually bought them a year ago when the website was 420-seeds instead of marijuana-seeds. Cross my fingers 3 turn out female and don't hermie. :-P

wackymack · Oct 2, 2008

it looked like foil,thats weird,havent heared of square mylar

vanyammer · Oct 2, 2008

Mylar worked great for me, no hermies!!

TodayIsAGreenday · Oct 3, 2008

its was probably an emergancy blanket lol

smoothdemon · Oct 3, 2008

I currently have 4 lights for 5 seedlings - is this ok for now?

total of 5800 lumens for 3.75 square feet

smoothdemon · Oct 3, 2008

Just found this info - guess i answered my own question:

"Plants in seedling and clone stage require about 400-500 lumens per square foot. In vegetative growth they require about 2,500 lumens per square foot and in flowering, they require about 10,000 lumens per square foot."

smoothdemon · Oct 4, 2008

Day 14

everything looks good, just letting them do their thing.

the runt is growing slowly and runt #2 is getting bushy and staying small.

Hillbilly420 · Oct 4, 2008

Im interested in the top 44... keep us posted on how it does. You planning on using CFL's all the way?

smoothdemon · Oct 4, 2008

Yeah cfls' all the way - i'm curious to see how this project is going to affect my electric bill, even though they are cfls' they are gonna add up

smoothdemon · Oct 6, 2008

Here's an update on the ladies - they are all doing pretty well, one of the top 44's has weird bottom leaves, but still looks healthy. The baby runt is growing a little more each day.

BTW When are these not considered seedlings anymore and officially in vegetative mode?

Questions comments suggestions always welcome

smoothdemon · Oct 9, 2008

So far so good. i had fruit flies attack my plants - because of an earthworm farm bucket i had. Problem has been taken care of. Meanwhile the plants are happy, i reduced watering because a few were looking limp.

Only gonna upload a group photo from here on, unless I need to talk about a specific plant. :blsmoke:

questions comments always welcome

wackymack · Oct 9, 2008

the plant next to the bottle doesnt look that good, alittle slow in a way,ttyl goin to bed,just my input

smoothdemon · Oct 10, 2008

yeah that little plant germinated late, and was a runt for like a week.

It finally started growing but the leaves are coming in all gnarled and curly.

I am hoping it will recover. - i put tupperware under it's pot to get it closer to the lights too.

vanyammer · Oct 14, 2008

any hermies?

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