Aeroponic vert mini-sog

Abiqua · Oct 31, 2013

Can I rip this off, hehe, but as a mini version?

I have a 35gpm from my old cloner, will push to about 3 feet and quit, but I have been thinking of a quick vert setup for a while. I have about 100w's of LED's to shine on them in on either side.

Damn, might just do this....
Aye carumba good chit, easy clean design, buy the shit anywhere.

rryyddeerr · Oct 31, 2013

Do it up. Post up pics if you do and enlighten me with any improvements you think up?

Abiqua · Oct 31, 2013

rryyddeerr said:
Do it up. Post up pics if you do and enlighten me with any improvements you think up?

If you get a chance maybe you can answer a couple of questions, because I do have some thoughts.....fawk yeah I have some thoughts, what a cool setup. :eyesmoke:

The CAP on top, saw that you put webbing up top to diffuse, good idea!

Medium, are you going to pack the column with hydroton? or just the sleeves right at the girls roots?
- I thought a packed column of coarse vermiculite for me could make sense.
15 on / 15 0ff outdoor timer right? I haven't seen any indoor [household] timers in 15 min increments?
How much water are you putting back in? Enough to last a week without re-topping?

Abiqua · Oct 31, 2013

I have most of everything already for the build, even a 4" and 3" toilet flange to boot.

I have a Jebao 185 gph pump with a 59" head. [don't know where the hell 35gpm came from]

I also have a 1.5 gallon sqare bucket [same dims. as a 4 gallon] and a 3 gallon round............... don't know which to use for the reservoir. The square is shorter but not by much [8" to 10" for the 3gallon round]

I am thinking of using 4 in pipe at maybe 25" + the reservoir height, maybe 3 to 4 girls.

Abiqua · Oct 31, 2013

Have you thought about any ppm fluc-tuations from recirc-ing? Does a re-circ gain or lose ppm compared over time?

MrMeanGreen · Nov 1, 2013

OP.... if your planning on running many of these, ya might want to consider tweeking the feed system a little and use a central res that feeds each pot using Archimedes principle, ie the level of your main res will be then same is all your surrounding pots. No extra pumps required and will give you easier access to maintain and monitor ppm's, ph etc. Keep the central res happy and all your pots will be happy.

rryyddeerr · Nov 1, 2013

Abiqua said:
If you get a chance maybe you can answer a couple of questions, because I do have some thoughts.....fawk yeah I have some thoughts, what a cool setup.

The CAP on top, saw that you put webbing up top to diffuse, good idea!

Medium, are you going to pack the column with hydroton? or just the sleeves right at the girls roots?

I thought a packed column of coarse vermiculite for me could make sense.

15 on / 15 0ff outdoor timer right? I haven't seen any indoor [household] timers in 15 min increments?

How much water are you putting back in? Enough to last a week without re-topping?

webbing extends from top to bottom.
I have bare roots right now. Hopefully roots can grab and hold on to mesh
i want to be able to take the column down piece by piece without media falling out. Kiss
i have it running sans timer right now as I have not observed high res temps
full five gallons, so I should be able to wait a week before playing with it. As they grow, I will have to address them more frequently

rryyddeerr · Nov 1, 2013

Abiqua said:
I have most of everything already for the build, even a 4" and 3" toilet flange to boot.

I have a Jebao 185 gph pump with a 59" head. [don't know where the hell 35gpm came from]

I also have a 1.5 gallon sqare bucket [same dims. as a 4 gallon] and a 3 gallon round............... don't know which to use for the reservoir. The square is shorter but not by much [8" to 10" for the 3gallon round]

I am thinking of using 4 in pipe at maybe 25" + the reservoir height, maybe 3 to 4 girls.

Sounds great!!

rryyddeerr · Nov 1, 2013

MrMeanGreen said:
OP.... if your planning on running many of these, ya might want to consider tweeking the feed system a little and use a central res that feeds each pot using Archimedes principle, ie the level of your main res will be then same is all your surrounding pots. No extra pumps required and will give you easier access to maintain and monitor ppm's, ph etc. Keep the central res happy and all your pots will be happy.

Exactly what I plan to put together in half my tent after my next vert scrog grow. Probably early February. I'm thinking 8-10 tubes linked together to an external res under my tent as half the tents contents and ~6 plants in soil on the opposite side. All centered around a pair of stacked, bare bulbs.

Red1966 · Nov 1, 2013

rryyddeerr said:
Thanks me too. But I thought bubble ponics required bubbles. Running the pump on a 15 on/15 off timer. Is hydroton not considered a medium?

Yes, it is. If you get one of those modified timers, you can run 1 minute "on" and 5 "off". This worked well in a low pressure aeroponic system I built.

rryyddeerr · Nov 2, 2013

Wouldn't you know it? Page 186 of cervante's growers bible features a photo of a commercially produced version of this exact idea. Called "the cage" made by THC BC. 2500$ supposedly works well

rryyddeerr · Nov 3, 2013

Today. They are outpacing clones taken at the same time but planted in soil by a factor of at least 3

MrMeanGreen · Nov 4, 2013

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This could be the answer to your potential root problem and stop all your roots grouping up on one side of your pipe. Might even give it a go myself. Put one of these down the center of your main tube, it will give the roots a medium to build around and your feed will dissipate better. Thank me later....

rryyddeerr · Nov 4, 2013

From what I can tell, I already have a similar mesh product running from top to bottom of this tube. Hard to take pics at this point though. It's cut into lengths the same as each vertical section. Roots are grabbing it and water is getting tossed by it. There is nothing else in the tube other than roots. I really don't think it's going to clog up.

Nizza · Nov 4, 2013

i think it would be cool to see this but with sprayers inside instead of a top drip system, i still can't really grasp this, the water is trickling down the tube over the roots?

rryyddeerr · Nov 4, 2013

I considered sprayers but thought it would be better to move as much water as possible by leaving the end of the pipe open. Pump temps would be cooler with more water passing through it and there is nothing to clog. It's working. Plants are growing rapidly. Even more so than my dwc.

rryyddeerr · Nov 7, 2013

New rule: no mixing nutes while stoned.

whodatnation · Nov 7, 2013

rryyddeerr said:
New rule: no mixing nutes while too stoned.

Fixed that for ya :-)

but totally agree,,, when mixing nutes that one little chore needs your undivided and complete attention,,, THEN its back to "fuck it" mode :eyesmoke:

Love the system you got there!

ilikecheetoes · Nov 7, 2013

they look overwatered to me in all the pics. maybe give them 15 minutes on/off or some kind of break. or more aeration or something?

Abiqua · Nov 7, 2013

Good chit going on here, glad its working out, can't wait for the finish!

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