Aeroponic vert mini-sog

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rryyddeerr

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Just like with my dwc bucket still in veg, these have developed rust colored spots and are getting curly and pissy looking. I check ph every day. I use RO supplemented with CalMg. I am using FF hydro trio. I have mixed each batch of nutes slightly stronger to keep them from burning.
Think I can run them on just water for a day to flush?
I did realize that the whole system was completely closed. So, I removed the plug I had installed on the lid to keep the power plugs from yanking around. That should allow for more air to get pulled up into the column. I may try to arrange for a way for air to enter the top of the column. That way, the water would actually pull fresh air down the tube as it's falling.
I still have no idea what I'm doing with hydro. The dwc bucket plant I have looks pretty bad.spots. Wrinkles. But it's growth is still far outpacing my plants in soil. So at least it's not dying and I have some time to figure out what's pissing her off.

And thanks for the complements.
hope everyone has a great day.
 
whodatnation

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Try taking it easy on the nutes and go from there. Using tap or RO water? Tap doesn't need the extra cal/mag.
 
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rryyddeerr

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RO. I'll see what they look like this afternoon. Maybe I can just water down the nutes I mixed up yesterday to replace the science project from the day before
 
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rryyddeerr

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Cut nutes down to 400ppm in my dwc and TROG. Also drilled several holes in the top cap of the TROG and inserted some bendy straws to facilitate air intake/exchange. Got some fun pics of the ordeal.
 

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Kinda like this setup. Interesting.

Do you aerrate your tube at all with stone to add oxygen to the water? Or is there a vent somewhere that allows for air intake? Just curious I like the setup.
 
Abiqua

Abiqua

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rryyddeerr said:
Cut nutes down to 400ppm in my dwc and TROG. Also drilled several holes in the top cap of the TROG and inserted some bendy straws to facilitate air intake/exchange. Got some fun pics of the ordeal.
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Lots of awesome here. When I 1st opened my big mouth about doing a mini version, that netting is exactly what I had in mind, I have a big azt role of it, sitting here. Coincidence?

Unfortunately I will have to wait, low on funds and need another cab for a vert. But you are proving it works!

I have been trolling Craigslist free for a Server Rack case, side lighting with LEd Bulbs and this system, has me intrigued on idea #3 so far.

Keep it up, good show! :joint:
 
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rryyddeerr

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Abiqua said:
I can feel the hurt, wtf is the pH? All kinds of nasty there. How did the burn start? from the tips or from petioles [leaf branch] out towards the leaves?
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Started from toward the tips. Ph 5.8-6.2 been running a really weak nute solution for 3 days & they still look pissed. Water is probably 75-80.
Spots are hitting lower fan leaves first.
Im thinking Mg def.
ill shoot more pics tonight
 
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powerslide

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Water temp is 75-80? If so that's the issue it needs to be 70 or below, you will get the rot and water has less DO the higher the temp
 
Abiqua

Abiqua

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^ you could also just add a bit of H202 for rot and DO.


pH sounds good......are you using just Mangesium [like epsom] or a Calmag?
 
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rryyddeerr

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Using calmag. Also using h2o2. Took out the pump I had in the res just pushing water around and put in an air stone. I am a big fan of vigorous water movement from my days as an avid keeper of aquariums. I mixed some new nutes using 4.5 gallons of RO / 8 tsp calmag/ 1tsp of h2o2/ 8 tsp of tiger bloom/ 8 tsp big bloom/ 6 ml of ph up. 900ppm 5.5 ph.

That said, it all actually looks worse, roots are darkening and growth has come to a crawl. Fingers crossed. I got some good mothers if I gotta start over, but I don't really wanna.
 
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powerslide

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You have the rot!! Water temps over 70 for extended periods will get it eventually. I run sterile res w/ moon dust nutes. First run I ever did was with them all the way, tried to incorporate others in and never worked that great. Back to the dust for me. But moral of the story throw some frozen bottles in the res daily to keep temps below 70
 
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rryyddeerr

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You are right! I started a batch of Heisenbergs tea this afternoon. ALso bought some of the strong h2o2 for when I need to cleanse. Plants looked happier today. I'm hoping that all the amazing reviews that microbe tea received are deserved. We shall see. My fingers are crossed. Thanks for the help!
 
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powerslide

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I think you are misunderstanding the point of benni's/tea. If you run that you don't use h2o2, h2o2 kills them and sterilizes everything. They are counter acting each other. I run strictly chem nutes and sterile res w/ help of h2o2
 
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rryyddeerr

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powerslide said:
I think you are misunderstanding the point of benni's/tea. If you run that you don't use h2o2, h2o2 kills them and sterilizes everything. They are counter acting each other. I run strictly chem nutes and sterile res w/ help of h2o2
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No misunderstanding. Use of h2o2 to clear out a res in between solution changes keeps things in check. I have no intention of running them at the same time.
 
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forcedaspiration

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Bingo ryder. Run strong h2o2 then flush and switch to the microbe tea. If you can take it apart use dish soap and warm water to scrub any bio film. Baking soda is good to use as a cleanser also. This shit is real tough to get rid of so try not to depend to much on the h2o2 to disinfect. Scrub what you are able to as well. Make sure the roots are thoroughly doused or even better submerged in H2o2 water. You may be able to survive at that temp but an external res, more water=more stable temps, especially if the remote res is away from the light heat. A chiller is really ideal or even required imho unless you are doing constant rez swaps...just a hard lesson I learned recently
 
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