The Growery
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People get pretty worked up about what consistency of bho is the most purged, your thoughts?
BHO consistencies
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Guzias1
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my thoughts, consistencies are too inconsistent 
i believe you can purge the shit out of oil, lots of heat, lots of vacuum, take out all tane... that is how you will achieve most purged product.. and i believe consistency would be very oily, runny..
butttt my favorite consistencies to judge by best purge/ taste would be the shatter (glass. taffy, very clear plate of oil) or wax..
but just by looking at something.. well, thats quite hard to judge.. a good test i do is melt the oil/wax down with a flame, if it sparkles, and bubbles/fizzes like hell, its not too good IMO. get you high, but not purged well..
its a very hard game to judge top quality just by looks.. on the other hand, its usually pretty simple to identify poorly purged oil....
i believe you can purge the shit out of oil, lots of heat, lots of vacuum, take out all tane... that is how you will achieve most purged product.. and i believe consistency would be very oily, runny..
butttt my favorite consistencies to judge by best purge/ taste would be the shatter (glass. taffy, very clear plate of oil) or wax..
but just by looking at something.. well, thats quite hard to judge.. a good test i do is melt the oil/wax down with a flame, if it sparkles, and bubbles/fizzes like hell, its not too good IMO. get you high, but not purged well..
its a very hard game to judge top quality just by looks.. on the other hand, its usually pretty simple to identify poorly purged oil....
Trichyn9ne
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Another bho thread? Really
The Growery
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lol thanks Guzias, that was a pic from my first harvest indoors a couple years back.
The Growery
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sorry trich
some people swear by shatter but I just don't get it. I can make shatter all day, but I reheat and purge for another 24 hours and I end up with honeycomb, I would think honeycomb is more purged because of this. I've always thought that anything that causes thc to stick to eachother with such high friction (like shatter does) was residual butane.
what else is being lost beside butane that would cause honeycomb to be so crumbly?
Guzias1
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goddamn you! thats massive. did you have lots of OD knowledge before growing indo? shitt, my first colas look like your colas turds...
i can talk bho all day with fellow peeps.
please, more bho threads and inputs! :]
there is a man named fadedawg on here, you should search his posts. he has some heavyyyyy info on the process. i feel if you ask the right questions, he has the right answers.. dont overwhelm him though
TheMan13
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Some of my favorite BHO (flavor wise), was likely a honeycomb, but came to me crumbled looking like a really nice blonde sandy bubble hash. It is/was the only BHO I have had to date that had zero "oil" flavor. That said, it was also a "nectar" extracted from only the crown of the buds and provided the heaviest THC hits I have ever experienced. Finally, it was a lab grade extraction done in a closed system where the butane both in and out is totally accounted for.
BTW this was neither local or on the "market". If I had to guess, I doubt I could have afforded to pay for it
BTW this was neither local or on the "market". If I had to guess, I doubt I could have afforded to pay for it
Guzias1
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wowers.... thats some next level ish..
Weedz b Baked
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I've seen way too much under purged budder/wax..
Not saying Shatter is the best, but for now it is definitely my preference over the rest. Personally I've found shatter to be ridiculously smooth and depending on the material used, extremely flavorful.
IMO oil can be properly purged no matter what the consistency.
Not saying Shatter is the best, but for now it is definitely my preference over the rest. Personally I've found shatter to be ridiculously smooth and depending on the material used, extremely flavorful.
IMO oil can be properly purged no matter what the consistency.
Medical420MI
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I think that strain has a bit to do with the consistency of the oil. I've got shatter and wax from the same tech. Only difference was the strain.
The Growery
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agreed. my bluecheese just refuses to wax up, always end up with budder/shatter with that strain
Danksnaps420
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to each his/her own, i've never enjoyed a Budder dab. Shatter dabs are way more flavorful, and less harsh. just my 2 pennies.
Rare D MI
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It depends on the material heavily... I will explain....
There are many variables that go into what terpene profile is expressed in the oil. Some has to. Do with the growing process, some the drying, some the handling, some the strain used. Any one of those changing, changes the flavor. The nuances of these flavors are brought out in different ways. Sometimes you can keep unwanted/unpleasant flavors that may be present at bay in a batch.
When I am running old material, or large scale warehouse runs where the trim wasn't kept properly, I prefer to keep it as shatter. The shatter is less pungent and less flavorful than wax, but that is a good thing in this case, because some of what could be brought out would actually seem to drop the perceived quality of the oil. When it turns to wax, the pores of the resin glands are opened, and any foreign terpenes absorbed by the glands are released. I had an experience once where a friend gave me 4 different kinds of trim and making them into wax they all tasted and smelled the same, and none of them were like the strain used. Came to find out it was dried in an area where his girlfriend smoked menthol cigarettes. The wet trichomes absorbed it.
when the material is grade A, I always wax it up, because that is how the flavor is brought out best. Just made 20g of ghost OG wax yesterday. Was made from 114g of popcorn nug. 17.5% yield.
There are many variables that go into what terpene profile is expressed in the oil. Some has to. Do with the growing process, some the drying, some the handling, some the strain used. Any one of those changing, changes the flavor. The nuances of these flavors are brought out in different ways. Sometimes you can keep unwanted/unpleasant flavors that may be present at bay in a batch.
When I am running old material, or large scale warehouse runs where the trim wasn't kept properly, I prefer to keep it as shatter. The shatter is less pungent and less flavorful than wax, but that is a good thing in this case, because some of what could be brought out would actually seem to drop the perceived quality of the oil. When it turns to wax, the pores of the resin glands are opened, and any foreign terpenes absorbed by the glands are released. I had an experience once where a friend gave me 4 different kinds of trim and making them into wax they all tasted and smelled the same, and none of them were like the strain used. Came to find out it was dried in an area where his girlfriend smoked menthol cigarettes. The wet trichomes absorbed it.
when the material is grade A, I always wax it up, because that is how the flavor is brought out best. Just made 20g of ghost OG wax yesterday. Was made from 114g of popcorn nug. 17.5% yield.
Rare D MI
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They are less "harsh" because waxing up releases a bronchial expectorant. This makes your bronchial passage ways expand and causes people to cough. I disagree about flavor though. I think it's batch specific as I've explained, certain strains I prefer shatter, others wax all the way.
Weedz b Baked
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Wow.. Rare D way to explain your findings. I always feel like I'm getting fed bullshit by other people who explain it too me.
I understand what you're saying about flavor. By waxing it up do you mean whip or...? Either way, wouldn't turning the oil into wax allow for it to degrade in flavor quicker or are you not worried about that? Or.. do you think it's possible to keep budder in a concealed container to keep it fresh?
Trim is rarely tasty imo but it's extremely rare when I make sap/shatter from nugs, that it doesn't have good flavor and maybe I'm just being cocky but in all honesty when the flavor lacks, it's usually due too the starting material.
Agree to disagree or whatever but I make sap/shatter mostly because I find the flavor to be better but obviously that's not what everyone has experienced.
I understand what you're saying about flavor. By waxing it up do you mean whip or...? Either way, wouldn't turning the oil into wax allow for it to degrade in flavor quicker or are you not worried about that? Or.. do you think it's possible to keep budder in a concealed container to keep it fresh?
Trim is rarely tasty imo but it's extremely rare when I make sap/shatter from nugs, that it doesn't have good flavor and maybe I'm just being cocky but in all honesty when the flavor lacks, it's usually due too the starting material.
Agree to disagree or whatever but I make sap/shatter mostly because I find the flavor to be better but obviously that's not what everyone has experienced.
Bigtacofarmer
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Gonna start storing and curing my trim a little better. So far I just mix it all together and see what I get. Usually a really high tolerance to all my strains! LOL
Medical420MI
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I never used fresh trim. I always dry it out pretty good. Maybe I need to try that.
Rare D MI
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I should clarify, freshly dried trim is the best. I was just pointing out that the terpene degradation in curing is not necessary for extracts, as we are "curing" the plant matter for the most part for our flowers we smoke. The resin should be good to go as soon as its dry.