Bridgelux EB Series Build

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BuddyColas

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Thanks for all the inspiration y'all.
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..put together my 1st little veg light for a 2x2....

. 4x 560 5000k strips
. Meanwell lpc 48-700

Two strips wired into series and then paralled, works great...got about a half hour of burn in.... :peace:

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A very clean build. I too have been playing with the eb 560s. I have found that running them at .7a that they raise in temp by just 35F over ambient...if I have then laying on the bench or raised up on spacers. Their claim of not needing a heat sink at test current is true! So yours with the sinks that you have...I think could run max current with ease.

I find the eb strips easier to work with than cobs, thinner, easier to cool, and more uniform photon spread to the canopy. I think they are going to give cobs a run for their money. And they are about 50 cents a watt at test current.

*All temps taken with a Bureau of Standards meat thermometer from Walmart with no air flow.
 
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muleface

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A very clean build. I too have been playing with the eb 560s. I have found that running them at .7a that they raise in temp by just 35F over ambient...if I have then laying on the bench or raised up on spacers. Their claim of not needing a heat sink at test current is true! So yours with the sinks that you have...I think could run max current with ease.

I find the eb strips easier to work with than cobs, thinner, easier to cool, and more uniform photon spread to the canopy. I think they are going to give cobs a run for their money. And they are about 50 cents a watt at test current.

*All temps taken with a Bureau of Standards meat thermometer from Walmart with no air flow.
I have 10 of these strips i'm gettting ready to build out into a fixture, how do they do as far as distance? Do they need to be right up on the plants or can they be higher up? Im running them at 1050ma
 

Abiqua

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I have 10 of these strips i'm gettting ready to build out into a fixture, how do they do as far as distance? Do they need to be right up on the plants or can they be higher up? Im running them at 1050ma
Is this for veg or flower?

for veg......I would start at around a foot of distance and move up or down......

The fixtue I replaced had a similar ppf / ppfd as this new Eb one, just now using less wattage. @ 200-250 ppfd AND 350mA...and I have no trouble vegging with 12" of distance between the led and tops....same as the Vero 10 5ks it replaced :peace:
 

Abiqua

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A very clean build. I too have been playing with the eb 560s. I have found that running them at .7a that they raise in temp by just 35F over ambient...if I have then laying on the bench or raised up on spacers. Their claim of not needing a heat sink at test current is true! So yours with the sinks that you have...I think could run max current with ease.

I find the eb strips easier to work with than cobs, thinner, easier to cool, and more uniform photon spread to the canopy. I think they are going to give cobs a run for their money. And they are about 50 cents a watt at test current.

*All temps taken with a Bureau of Standards meat thermometer from Walmart with no air flow.
Thank you, hopefully someone in the future will find it useful. Strip lighting is reborn and giving everything a run for its money, look at Robin and Steve, even with good strips available before that, they really drove alot of recent want.....

I am trying to keep at around 50% efficiency, also makes my old drivers usable.....but I noticed that the 3k strips are more efficienct than the higher Kelvin, not by much, but if the LER is the same as other bridgelux offering the 5k 560 strips for example are about 4% less efficient than the same 3k at any current, usually it is the inverse.....

I am thinking of doing a complete 4x4 flower tent with all 3k 1160mm strips....x20 x 22 @500mA....that should put me around 400 watts and still 700+ppfd....

also, I need to do an actual TC measurement, but a close one last night had me about 1 degree Celsius over Ambient right on the board material itself. The heatsinks were almost cold...

.1/8 inch 6060 U Channel
.1/4 inch L Channel
.3 mm Steel rivets [I drilled out a bunch of aluminum ones that had too much flex}


:peace:
 

BuddyColas

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Thank you, hopefully someone in the future will find it useful. Strip lighting is reborn and giving everything a run for its money, look at Robin and Steve, even with good strips available before that, they really drove alot of recent want.....

I am trying to keep at around 50% efficiency, also makes my old drivers usable.....but I noticed that the 3k strips are more efficienct than the higher Kelvin, not by much, but if the LER is the same as other bridgelux offering the 5k 560 strips for example are about 4% less efficient than the same 3k at any current, usually it is the inverse.....

I am thinking of doing a complete 4x4 flower tent with all 3k 1160mm strips....x20 x 22 @500mA....that should put me around 400 watts and still 700+ppfd....

also, I need to do an actual TC measurement, but a close one last night had me about 1 degree Celsius over Ambient right on the board material itself. The heatsinks were almost cold...

.1/8 inch 6060 U Channel
.1/4 inch L Channel
.3 mm Steel rivets [I drilled out a bunch of aluminum ones that had too much flex}


:peace:
If you ever decided to flower in that 2x2, you could add a 3k strip beside your existing strip (it would have to move over) and that would be close to the Nextlight spectrum...a proven winner.

I like your idea for all 3k for the 4x4 with an very even 700ish across the tray. That would make a good journal.
 

Abiqua

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If you ever decided to flower in that 2x2, you could add a 3k strip beside your existing strip (it would have to move over) and that would be close to the Nextlight spectrum...a proven winner.

I like your idea for all 3k for the 4x4 with an very even 700ish across the tray. That would make a good journal.
well...I flowered in the 2x2 for about 2 years lol...and I have done several runs of 5k and mixed, not my cup of tea actually. Never has been and I dont understand the logic behind it, which has never matched my actual experience....I actually wish they made a 27ook strip or 625nm supplements.

The only thing I have had really good luck with 5k is a vietnamess cut, that was legit in terms of genetics. Which is why you always see my argue for strain dependency at the very least, just like any other grow, really.

journals are tough because I do perpetual and breed and run test cut one off's constantly.

after the hybridway bullshit, this is the most I have posted this year....ciao...
 

caretak3r

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well...I flowered in the 2x2 for about 2 years lol...and I have done several runs of 5k and mixed, not my cup of tea actually. Never has been and I dont understand the logic behind it, which has never matched my actual experience....I actually wish they made a 27ook strip or 625nm supplements.

The only thing I have had really good luck with 5k is a vietnamess cut, that was legit in terms of genetics. Which is why you always see my argue for strain dependency at the very least, just like any other grow, really.

journals are tough because I do perpetual and breed and run test cut one off's constantly.

after the hybridway bullshit, this is the most I have posted this year....ciao...
Merry Wu will do osram ssl arrays for you at a good price, I got a 30 LED "COB" (term used loosely) of 660nm SSL 150s for about $30 bucks
http://rollitup.org/t/which-is-best-red-single-color-actually.908012/page-2#post-12630423
 
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Abiqua

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it appears to be so new, that meanwell only lists it, but has no spec on it yet.

http://meanwellusa.com/webapp/product/search.aspx?prod=HLG-480H-C

hlg-480 (im assuming this is the driver you are talking about)

I googled hlg 480h-c1400x ......2100x 3500x........ etc etc....never found a 1050mA or below Hi Volt CC version.... and stock isnt in but it is listed at cdi ....1400mA version
https://led.cdiweb.com/ProductDetail/HLG480HC1400A-Mean-Well-USA/41052/

I would look at the HLG--600h-48b version, thats what you will need $151 US for that version
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mean-Well/HLG-600H-48B/?qs=5pLaOnqdcwNH8bvz06cHXA==&gclid=CKKQ4bLp5dECFU5ufgodoTIFBg
 

muleface

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480 watts @ 1400ma (343 volts), you could run 9 - 36v cobs on that, in a 4x4 i think that would be awesome! you could run a ton of samsung strips on this, maybe 13 of them, that would give a awesome spread! thats 7 EB 4 footers. don't know on that, i would like to run them at 1050 for a better spread. 4 quantum boards?

@robincnn could we run 4 quantum boards on one of these? or would it burn them out?

Not sure if this is saying i could back it down to 700ma, but here is a spec sheet.

https://www.cdiweb.com/datasheets/meanwell/HLG-480H-C-SPEC.pdf

My only concern is the voltage seems like it might be a bit high. But I would really like to just have 1 driver per 4x4.
 

Abiqua

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480 watts @ 1400ma (343 volts), you could run 9 - 36v cobs on that, in a 4x4 i think that would be awesome! you could run a ton of samsung strips on this, maybe 13 of them, that would give a awesome spread! thats 7 EB 4 footers. don't know on that, i would like to run them at 1050 for a better spread. 4 quantum boards?

@robincnn could we run 4 quantum boards on one of these? or would it burn them out?



Not sure if this is saying i could back it down to 700ma, but here is a spec sheet.

https://www.cdiweb.com/datasheets/meanwell/HLG-480H-C-SPEC.pdf

My only concern is the voltage seems like it might be a bit high. But I would really like to just have 1 driver per 4x4.


Nine cobs on ONE driver is getting it done, hell yeah.... You could run 16 of the EB strips in two series channels that share 8 strips and then paralleled. That splits your current to 700mA a string, each strip would be 31 watts, and your effiency would be about 48% at that current....So you probably can push 500 watts of output with this driver alone. [16 x31=496 watts ]

If your effieciency is around 50% thats 1000w territory, in a 4x4 and less than 50% the wattage.....


3x Qbs will fit on that driver when ran in series....
vF is somewhere around 109 volts @1400mA

They would be beastly running around 150 watts each, but thats about 50% effiency for these boards.....

You could also run 6x quantum boards with 3 in series and then parallel the 2 channels....Little better effiency but more upfront cost...much easier to spread than #3 in the same size space....:peace:
 

muleface

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Nine cobs on ONE driver is getting it done, hell yeah.... You could run 16 of the EB strips in two series channels that share 8 strips and then paralleled. That splits your current to 700mA a string, each strip would be 31 watts, and your effiency would be about 48% at that current....So you probably can push 500 watts of output with this driver alone. [16 x31=496 watts ]

If your effieciency is around 50% thats 1000w territory, in a 4x4 and less than 50% the wattage.....


3x Qbs will fit on that driver when ran in series....
vF is somewhere around 109 volts @1400mA

They would be beastly running around 150 watts each, but thats about 50% effiency for these boards.....

You could also run 6x quantum boards with 3 in series and then parallel the 2 channels....Little better effiency but more upfront cost...much easier to spread than #3 in the same size space....:peace:
i didn't think about running them i both series and parallel. When these come out, i may just do that!
 

muleface

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Spec sheet for the 480's

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there are all kinds of fun configurations that can be done with these.

12 EB strips at 875ma. or 10 at 1050ma, My personal favorite, 2 strips at 3500ma, you're gonna get a lot of light for real briefly, like a flash bulb. :)


I think 12 at 875 might be fantastic for a 4x4. Any one know when these will get released?
 
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