CAN somebody check this info.

panta

Well-Known Member
at day30 remove any leaves that are blocking any any bud sites ,25 to 30 % .wen at day 40 to 42 wen upward growth stops remove the ither 50 to 60 % and full budding starts it wil all merge together.

you do need the fan leaves only to a certain point ... wait till 30 day flower before you cut a leaf.

i heard a lot of contraditions on the subject,any advice
 

rubancinta

Active Member
sounds like some solid advice. i would do a little less trimming and only if its blocking out a large enough amount of light to the bud sites.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
I don't agree really. I guess there are two ways of looking at it... I dunno.

It is the leaves which feed the bud, so less leaves mean smaller engine to create the bud. The bud is an extension of the plants reproductive system. The leaves are the engine for that extension. I will only trim if i feel I need to air the buds to keep mold from developing. Other than that the bigger leaves the better. IMHO. :peace:

out. :blsmoke:
 

born2killspam

Well-Known Member
Leaves only need to go if they're blocking light from tops.. eg if they're blocking light to leaves that are closer to buds.. Even if they're withering they're feeding the plant, reserves are stored there.. Let the plant decide..
In other words, that plan is assinine IMO..
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Weed has been around for a long long time. No one went around cleaning up fan leaves before the 20th century, and yet, they are here. Plants have it down and weed especially so.

What I find amazing is that weed used to be a perennial long ago and adapted into an annual.... is there anything weed cannot do?? :mrgreen:

out. :blsmoke:
 

Brick Top

New Member
Buds do not grow because light strikes them directly. The process is due to the entire plants normal operation and that means the leaves are essential because they are what absorbs the light rays that are then converted into energy that then allows the plants to perform all their functions.

Removing the leaves will slow down or stop that process and that means slowing down or stopping bud growth.

Look at a plant like a home that operates off of solar panels. How much TV will you watch or how warm or cool will you be able to make your home using your furnace or a/c and how many loads of laundry will you be able to wash and dry and how many loads of dishes will you be able to wash and how many lights will you be able to turn on if you remove your home’s solar panels?

Someone would actually be better off if they shaded their buds. The rays of light from the sun or from grow lights degrade THC so a small amount is lost every day and then it and more is added during the hours of darkness, that is why you want to harvest at first light, because the plants THC level will be at its highest possible point for the day.

So what is the benefit of cutting off the plants leaves? To shut down the normal functions and processes of the plant and to reduce its level of THC even more by allowing more light rays to directly hit the buds.

I can see why someone would really want to do that!
 

projectinfo

Well-Known Member
at day 30 jus remove wat is not gettin lite , i mean any buds on the stick,top or bottom , and wen its filling instead up,nuthin can stop it,you can see for your sef that it would merge together as a whole like it wants to do. plus removin the leaves puts that energy to full bud growth of instead of keeping all those leaves alive,,, thats a lot of energy if its bushed out that could have been massive.thats wy my buds are whole and not here and there on a skiinny stik,later bro.look at my Bluecheese.only at day 34 and they are already merging sooner than i have seen on anyone of my grows so soon and 35 days left,lolol.
-genius raiderman... tornado chaser extrodinair

yeah i know what ya mean buddy, i was going to prune, not to that extent because i didnt know right, but yeah i raped these forums for weeks on that subject i think ive read close to every thread relating to that lol , basically what i gathered from the people is that , its yeild/health your point on the yeilding obviously it works amazingly lol and it makes sence too!:grin::grin: and theother side is people syaing the fan leaves are the factorys for the plant , producing the sugars it needs to grow ,... but thats just it lol we dont want it to keep growing , we want the buds , and thats where the light comes in .... ripping off leaves and unblocking the light like you said is genius because now it still has enough vegitation in the auxillary leaves on the buds to develope as needed. and some say oh it could stress the plant and have a lower yeild ... but when it gets twice as much light and a great air flow it outweighs the stress in the end. just really really gatta keep em green is the secret im guessing because when you have next to no fan leaves and such theres not alot of room for error
 

CrackerJax

New Member
The leaves are not growing the plant when it goes to flower. That would be counterproductive for the plant whose SOLE purpose in life is to reproduce via bud production. Once the plant goes to flower all energy gathered will go to produce buds. More leaves equal bigger buds... :peace:

That's sort of saying the plant doesn't know what it is doing...it does.

out. :blsmoke:
 

projectinfo

Well-Known Member
i grew bushes this time around check out the journal.... i wish i would have loillypopped and listend to raiderman because honestly 1/2 of is is airy nuggs on the inside and on the bottom instead of massive buds ... its been proven
 

projectinfo

Well-Known Member
yeah i have some nice buds on top , but there not fully conencted in some spots, check out raiders grow , its a 15 inch bud on a 22 inch plant pretty much and just rock hard, barely loses any weight when drieing and there all connected buds into big long buds on the plant ... its amazing check it out
 

Big P

Well-Known Member
guys guys guys, never cut your leaves. they are the engines that power your buds. Your buds dont need the lights, they dont process light


only Leaves process your light, comon you learn this in 3rd grade


cut your leaves and you may as well cut off your buds and throw them away:bigjoint:
 

projectinfo

Well-Known Member
lol.... ok well if you guys want ur plants to do something freaky and make ... all rock hard big buds.... lol this is what ya do lol if ya want half good nuigs and half airy nugs dont cut anything .... end of convo man
 

projectinfo

Well-Known Member
fuck ever experiment man . honestly yeah it will be a really healthy plant and make lots of bud.... but theres other ways to do thigns too , if you dont want the airy nugs , give it a try some time .. do it to ione plant and tell me its wrong ... raidermans averaging a pound per 600w light... the plants are fucking ludacris chekc it out go on my journal and then raidermans white russian journal.... check out the pics along the way of previous grow s and his other journals ... i know there the factorys and blah blah , but yeah theyl produce more bud all over the plant ... i want long colas , as much cola as i can make so this is the idea to go with ... try it before ya knock it ....
 

raiderman

Well-Known Member
at day30 remove any leaves that are blocking any any bud sites ,25 to 30 % .wen at day 40 to 42 wen upward growth stops remove the ither 50 to 60 % and full budding starts it wil all merge together.

you do need the fan leaves only to a certain point ... wait till 30 day flower before you cut a leaf.

i heard a lot of contraditions on the subject,any advice
say panta, dont do it all at once or you will shock the plant,,, if your not sure dont do it,,,,,ok..be smart.. i wood leave them alone ,watch mine presently,if you think if its wat you want go for it,,,this my method, i'm going against 90% of of wat you will hear,K...i think its a bit late for you,,, honestly waited to long...my method is tricking the plant..later on .bro and good luk.. jus nex time dont ask, jus go throuygh my journal ,, if i knew you and were cool where i live i wood charge you for even helpin..later.by the way ns avitar.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
The only way to truly know is to grow two identical strains and trim one and not the other. All will be revealed. Shazam!! :lol:

out. :blsmoke:
 

born2killspam

Well-Known Member
You meant to say identical clones right?? I've done a few side by side experiments, but I never questioned the concept that more photosynthesis = more buds..
 
Top