DIY Samsung LM561C build

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VegasWinner

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nogod_ said:
I'm sorry you can't understand how delicious this irony is...



:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

For the record I've never bought a QB, growmau kit or PLC lamp of any kind. Ive built every LED rig I've used out of components I pounced on when the price was right, through a vendor who offered me more than a wink and a handshake.

I dont give a shit about Roget's follow up. The truth is you have no idea if what you have is the genuine artifact...you're just hoping that your buddy Roget isnt bending you over and until you have proof all you have is his word and your hope and neither is worth much to me.
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I don't need a meter or need to prove anything real irony why are you so worried about what I am doing? I am not bothering to answer any further. You can buy your own draw your own conclusions or continue to try to bully me into some position. Have a better day. I am
 
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nogod_ said:
I'm sorry you can't understand how delicious this irony is...



:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

For the record I've never bought a QB, growmau kit or PLC lamp of any kind. Ive built every LED rig I've used out of components I pounced on when the price was right, through a vendor who offered me more than a wink and a handshake.

I dont give a shit about Roget's follow up. The truth is you have no idea if what you have is the genuine artifact...you're just hoping that your buddy Roget isnt bending you over and until you have proof all you have is his word and your hope and neither is worth much to me.
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Move on stop hating take your hatred move on see how easy that is. You go buy from elsewhere and don't take any chances in life be boring. I am daring I take chances that's why I win in life. No fear like you go do something other than talk
 
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Baudelaire said:
One thing to keep in mind is that @OLD MOTHER SATIVA has not mentioned their supplier. I am as wary as anyone of Chinese suppliers - it's a trust-then-verify situation. There is a different culture of business there that is much more caveat emptor than Japan or Korea, or the US. I don't think it's racist to acknowledge it, and downright foolish to ignore it.

But Alibaba is just a Chinese online market for manufacturers and importers. It's silly to tar every seller there with the same brush. The fact is Samsung is selling more pre-fab LM561C chips than fabricated PCBs, so they are in the market. Roget claims to be one of many authorized resellers. The HLG guys claim they have sourced their chips from authorized suppliers, and in their recent dust-up with a would-be competitor revealed they used a Chinese fabricator that is listed on Alibaba. As with so many things LED right now, all roads lead to and from China, and Alibaba is the road map.

So, I trust that this Roget may be selling legit flexi-strips of LM561Cs. But I think it is incumbent upon anyone who would resell light engines using those chips to verify it through independent means, either via Samsung corporate, independent inspection (nothing about these chips IDs them?), or lab testing. Lab testing and publication of results before resale should be a de minimus expectation. It will be for my strips for sure. I give @OLD MOTHER SATIVA the credit for putting his to the test and letting the "chips" fall where they may.

-b420
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You are afraid of the Chinese that is funny. Ford is moving production to China. I guess you are not buying that either. Oh Apple is made in China don't want one of those either. You sound afraid of your own shadow. Take your politics of fear and hatred and go tell that to HLG having boards made in China and PLC has cobs made in China along with heatsinks and meanwell. My oh my what are you going to do? Go be afraid all over the QB threads obvious agenda. Wow
 
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VegasWinner

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Baudelaire said:
One thing to keep in mind is that @OLD MOTHER SATIVA has not mentioned their supplier. I am as wary as anyone of Chinese suppliers - it's a trust-then-verify situation. There is a different culture of business there that is much more caveat emptor than Japan or Korea, or the US. I don't think it's racist to acknowledge it, and downright foolish to ignore it.

But Alibaba is just a Chinese online market for manufacturers and importers. It's silly to tar every seller there with the same brush. The fact is Samsung is selling more pre-fab LM561C chips than fabricated PCBs, so they are in the market. Roget claims to be one of many authorized resellers. The HLG guys claim they have sourced their chips from authorized suppliers, and in their recent dust-up with a would-be competitor revealed they used a Chinese fabricator that is listed on Alibaba. As with so many things LED right now, all roads lead to and from China, and Alibaba is the road map.

So, I trust that this Roget may be selling legit flexi-strips of LM561Cs. But I think it is incumbent upon anyone who would resell light engines using those chips to verify it through independent means, either via Samsung corporate, independent inspection (nothing about these chips IDs them?), or lab testing. Lab testing and publication of results before resale should be a de minimus expectation. It will be for my strips for sure. I give @OLD MOTHER SATIVA the credit for putting his to the test and letting the "chips" fall where they may.

-b420
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Ever hear of Jack Ma owns Alibaba he will disagree with you said US is stupid investing in War while world invests in infrastructure.
 
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nogod_

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Nobody was talking to or about you until you jumped in both guns blazing, ranting some half-coherent nonsense about jerry kingbright.

Just put the pipe down bud, or switch up your meds. It's turning you into a paranoid nutjob.

There is no secret society of HLG pizzagaters trying to get you. If you play growmau5's youtube videos backwards I promise you wont hear the voice of satan.
I like getting what I pay for. You can call it fear, I call it making an informed purchase.

As has been said before not all alibaba vendors are created equal. I do not wish you ill will and I do not hope that you got burned for trusting someone. Just do not flame me for being smart with my money.
The fact remains you have no idea what chips are hanging over your plants. While that may be good enough for you, that isnt good enough for me.

VegasWinner said:
I don't need a meter or need to prove anything real irony why are you so worried about what I am doing? I am not bothering to answer any further. You can buy your own draw your own conclusions or continue to try to bully me into some position. Have a better day. I am
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Old mother sativa did not buy from Roget. I had found his supplier several weeks ago and it is not Roget. Out of respect to OMS I have not and will not name them. I will leave it to OMS to do that.
 
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Some folks just want to have fun and some folks heads hurt watching folks have fun. You folks, I will leave nameless, blame others of smoking too much, acting irrational, jumping to conclusions, and other whims of fantasy. etc. etc. etc.... bongsmilie

No one is taking anyone serious any longer. everyone should go do them self and change the world that way. Smokers used to be nice folks now they are a bunch of arrogant know it all folks, with too much weed and not enough attention. :weed:

Everyone is a business owner now, but no one pays taxes or has formal business documents and can offer warranty not in business long enough or actual bank accounts just paypal. SMH. got nerve to pick on REAL business people. WTF. Bizarro World Superman. too funny. :wall:

I like making things, light controllers, lights, motorcycles, etc. it does not matter to me, I am having fun. More of you should try that and smile more, laugh more, enjoy each other more. Life is too short.:hump:
namaste:peace:
 
Randomblame

Randomblame

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@VegasWinner

I'm not afraid, I've just said that "I" am warily about gray market products.
I've already bought massive parts from Chinese sellers, including LED strips, amplifiers, woofers, drivers, ...
And what I can say, they do not deliver consistent results and go much faster defective as brand products.
I have always looked at you with respect(namaste) and always liked to read your posts and you never got an offensive contribution from me. Why are you shooting so aggressively now?
Did I accidentally hit a sore spot?
It seems to me that "you" are afraid to put your money in a wrong investment and to cover it you shoot crosswise.
No one is concerned about what you use for your lamps!
But they simply take as genuine, just because you have found a sticker and a smudged stamp on the packaging is just stupid.
 
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Randomblame

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Don't get me wrong!
I hope very @CobKits buys a role of these strips and makes some tests.
I also hope that this are true 561c, because then we would have found another source for these LEDs,
but as I said, I'm careful until there are tests that can prove this.

BTW, I have also a lot of fun to build my own things like amplifiers, e-bikes and other things.. and I smile a lot.
But I'm not a millionaire and throw out my money for fakes. When I buy something I want to know it's quality.
For example, if you buy a cheap shimano disc brake for your e-bike and you get a fake, it can cost you your life.
To verify the authenticity is not fearful, it is reasonable!!!
 
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Randomblame

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OLD MOTHER SATIVA said:
hahahaha..huh?
are you speaking to me or vegas..?

i sure hope it wasn't me..

i think you just made a wrong cut and quote. ...and meant to continue your whatever with vegas

there is absolutely no place where anything you have retorted to has any realtion to any impartial comment i made in the quoted post

i have no idea what you are speaking of in relation anything i said..

and possibly you are starting to take yourself too seriously

please relax..[both of you].........

and all the best to you both






thats kind of you

i was told by the factory guy recently that its the same place as sunboards/wavy

this was after i mentioned that cobkits had tested the board i had made

all the best
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Sorry, wrong qouted, haha!
I wanted to qoute him not you, sorry!
Probably a bit too stoned, haha.


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Randomblame said:
@VegasWinner

I'm not afraid, I've just said that "I" am warily about gray market products.
I've already bought massive parts from Chinese sellers, including LED strips, amplifiers, woofers, drivers, ...
And what I can say, they do not deliver consistent results and go much faster defective as brand products.
I have always looked at you with respect(namaste) and always liked to read your posts and you never got an offensive contribution from me. Why are you shooting so aggressively now?
Did I accidentally hit a sore spot?
It seems to me that "you" are afraid to put your money in a wrong investment and to cover it you shoot crosswise.
No one is concerned about what you use for your lamps!
But they simply take as genuine, just because you have found a sticker and a smudged stamp on the packaging is just stupid.
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No one said you were stupid. I said I am doing me. You don't have to buy at all. I just share who I find is reputable. If you find he is not show proof. No problems sharing success which seems to hurt some people. If Roget rips you off I would be surprised. Each person is like a piece of fruit, all have flavor no two alike but many appear similar. I don't tell anyone what to do just share what i am doing. That's all I have nothing to gain but sharing.
namaste
 
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VegasWinner

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CobKits said:
send some over ill test em
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Go buy your own like I do spend some money why should i send you a reel of leds for testing. If you want to test Roget just buy a reel.
BTW, he sells 5m made by hand and 40m made on production line. You choose if you think hid certification is not genuine. I have this habit of believing people until I find they should no longer be believed through observation of thoughts words and actions
 
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VegasWinner

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Randomblame said:
Don't get me wrong!
I hope very @CobKits buys a role of these strips and makes some tests.
I also hope that this are true 561c, because then we would have found another source for these LEDs,
but as I said, I'm careful until there are tests that can prove this.

BTW, I have also a lot of fun to build my own things like amplifiers, e-bikes and other things.. and I smile a lot.
But I'm not a millionaire and throw out my money for fakes. When I buy something I want to know it's quality.
For example, if you buy a cheap shimano disc brake for your e-bike and you get a fake, it can cost you your life.
To verify the authenticity is not fearful, it is reasonable!!!
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I understand I build custom harley Davidson but I can't call it that because I dont work at their factory even with their engines drive trains etc. I share Roget because he is the genuine article. I don't throw money away either I am retired can't afford mistakes
namaste
 
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VegasWinner

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Randomblame said:
@VegasWinner

I'm not afraid, I've just said that "I" am warily about gray market products.
I've already bought massive parts from Chinese sellers, including LED strips, amplifiers, woofers, drivers, ...
And what I can say, they do not deliver consistent results and go much faster defective as brand products.
I have always looked at you with respect(namaste) and always liked to read your posts and you never got an offensive contribution from me. Why are you shooting so aggressively now?
Did I accidentally hit a sore spot?
It seems to me that "you" are afraid to put your money in a wrong investment and to cover it you shoot crosswise.
No one is concerned about what you use for your lamps!
But they simply take as genuine, just because you have found a sticker and a smudged stamp on the packaging is just stupid.
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No problem I have no issue with you or anyone else written word is static spoken word is dynamic more understanding from that exchange. If I offended you peace and love and an apology.
namaste
 
Baudelaire

Baudelaire

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VegasWinner said:
You are afraid of the Chinese that is funny. Ford is moving production to China. I guess you are not buying that either. Oh Apple is made in China don't want one of those either. You sound afraid of your own shadow. Take your politics of fear and hatred and go tell that to HLG having boards made in China and PLC has cobs made in China along with heatsinks and meanwell. My oh my what are you going to do? Go be afraid all over the QB threads obvious agenda. Wow
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Shooting cross-wise for sure. Dude my comment was intended as a defense of using Chinese suppliers, i.e. everybody does it (even Ford). One must be discerning and skeptical of unproven suppliers is all, as in all new business relationships - you as a risk-taking, successful retired businessman certainly know this. Must be some heavy paranoia-inducing sativa or something. "Namaste" indeed.

Since you missed the nuance, here it is straight up: Use any frigging real or fake chips you want in your personal hobbies. But if your plans are to resell them to folks here, get them tested or verified, or expect your would-be customers to be skeptical. Overcome the objection, Sales 101.

Swagat hai!

-b420
 
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