DIY with Quantum Boards
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TEKNIK
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If anyone is buying the HLG products into the Melbourne can I borrow them for a few hours to test them, I would like to see an IES file of them. Unless HLG wants to send them to me for a free test report. I plan to have a database of all sorts of grow light products for people to see before they spend any money that can be simulated in a room using a free program called Dialux
Budzbuddha
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More QB porn ...
2 PsychoFruit Autos ( cream of the crop seeds ) Blueberry x Critical +
Hempy Buckets ( 100% perlite )
Week 6 .... Monday 7
QB 96s and 304 4000k
Warp core rig
Berry notes with slight skunk . Purps , reds , blues ..... bushy.
Feed whore ( megacrop ) ... and calmag.
Ph 5.8
Supposedly a “ 60 day seed to harvest “ strain so it’s going to week 7 on Monday ( 3/11 ) ,
so maybe ????
A couple of weeks.
Now this one is ALSO the “ same kind of auto “ but obviously growing differently.
Buds are all spear shaped , way more feed sensitive and growing longer branches and node spaces . More than likely THIS ONE will go longer but will keep her on watch ... smells a little more skunk.
These autos were part of a 10 pack and liking the frost , never ran this gear either before .
So who knows. Dropped feed to half compared to her sister above even tho she is much taller than the other.
Anybody got some info on some CRITICAL strains ?
Looking for something else to run.
2 PsychoFruit Autos ( cream of the crop seeds ) Blueberry x Critical +
Hempy Buckets ( 100% perlite )
Week 6 .... Monday 7
QB 96s and 304 4000k
Warp core rig
Berry notes with slight skunk . Purps , reds , blues ..... bushy.
Feed whore ( megacrop ) ... and calmag.
Ph 5.8
Supposedly a “ 60 day seed to harvest “ strain so it’s going to week 7 on Monday ( 3/11 ) ,
so maybe ????
A couple of weeks.
Now this one is ALSO the “ same kind of auto “ but obviously growing differently.
Buds are all spear shaped , way more feed sensitive and growing longer branches and node spaces . More than likely THIS ONE will go longer but will keep her on watch ... smells a little more skunk.
These autos were part of a 10 pack and liking the frost , never ran this gear either before .
So who knows. Dropped feed to half compared to her sister above even tho she is much taller than the other.
Anybody got some info on some CRITICAL strains ?
Looking for something else to run.
619kt619
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You have some balls, lol. Your approach is a little backwards. Businesses don't just ship off their products to randoms. Who are you? what services are you providing? and where on this green earth is someone just gonna send you their purchase of which they spent their income on for a benefit that you have not made clear? I get that you are trying to provide information and gather data for consumers but where is your track record? This is not the place to ask the questions you have.
You should mail the company directly and state your findings and how they will benefit their business, and you should totally not be asking in a forum for people to let you "borrow" their products at what seems to be their expense. Like I would totally let you borrow a board if you paid for all expenses all the while I would be asking for a deposit should my board not make it back to me or if it were to get damaged by your hand, but at that point you should just purchase one of the damn products do your test and if you don't want to keep it you can try and recoup some of the purchase through a sale.
Maybe you should have thought this one through a little more?
TEKNIK
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You are correct, I don't think about all the bad things that may happen or trust issues involved. I didn't email hlg directly as I am sure they would see this post as they are on here all the time. I really do not care about secrecy at all. My goal is to test products and show the results to everyone not just the company I am testing the products for. Hlg probably have already done testing on thier products but they have not released a IES file and that is what I want people to be able to see. Not just for HLG but all reputable companies selling horticultural lighting. They could pay a lab to do this if they wanted the files for themselves and only themselves or they could get in contact with me and have it done for free. Considering these tests are quite expensive to do via a lab it's likely worthwhile for them to send the product to me to be tested if they don't care about the information being public. For anyone local to me they can choose if they want to have the product the purchased tested, it only takes me half an hour to do. You yourself may not be interested in the test results but others that purchase these products maybe and to have a free test done that a lab would charge upwards of $800 is a pretty good deal.
jjng5
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@TEKNIK There are lots of these sorts of comparisons out there. Some are slightly biased, you have to always consider who is doing the test. You also have to consider that the technology changes often faster than new content can come out. But nonetheless there is tons of content on these subjects:
SoMe_EfFin_MasS_HoLe
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Took the words right out of my mouth. Seems like someone was just trying to get free lights. I'll tell ya guys got some big balls though.
TEKNIK
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I want to conduct a goniometer test so people can use the results to accurately conduct par mapping on thier computer before purchasing products. All these lights need to be documented properly and noone does it
TEKNIK
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I don't want free lights lmfao, I want to save everyone the hassle of conducting par map tests. It's probably strange to you guys that I would go out of my way to conduct free testing that labs charge alot for but I have an awesome goniometer and the tests do not take me long at all
SoMe_EfFin_MasS_HoLe
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Soooooo buy some lights and test em out.
TEKNIK
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I don't want to keep the lights, just test them so the data can be shared.
jjng5
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@TEKNIK Here's another test for you... there's really no need for additional testing. Migro does these tests very well to give people enough of an idea of PPFD efficiency, he tests them in 2x2 and open spaces. He also provides them PAR map results and optimum height to provide 1000 PAR as a center point. Because he tests all major LED products, he keeps a constantly evolving board of the top PPFD efficient LED's on the market including HID as well. There really isn't a need for more then this to get someone started. Beyond making a purchase decision, any hobby grower can afford a $10 LUX meter to ensure proper light spread across their canopy.
TEKNIK
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I am more interested in getting an IES file to compare things. Do you guys even do goniometer testing or just sphere test's?
jjng5
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As in three-dimensional measurements? Take a look at the video above in how the tester encloses the light source and takes the 64 measurements. If that is what you mean, I would assume that most of the PPFD and PAR map measurements are taken from high end PAR meters in a tent setup style because 3-D measurements would be too hard to compare. Some LED's are COB style with one large light source, others like the QB 324 V2 has 324 light diodes. Some products use 90 degree lenses some do not. So lenses are large others are not. There's too many other variables to try and take measurements that way. What would we do with them anyways? Most of us want a flat even canopy of green so we are concerned with the PAR intensity across a 2 dimensional plane only, because that's how most of us try and grow. Most people want to know three things; (1) how efficient is the light, (2) what intensity is it coming in at, and (3) what is the usable foot print. Best to just keep it simple. I hope that that makes sense.
TEKNIK
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At some stage there needs to be more accurate information than some guy with a par meter taking measurements, most major companies do goniometer measurements not just sphere tests. If you were selling your products to a major farm they would want real information. I am doing goniometer tests for Cutter electronics solskin boards as they want to have accurate results regarding par mapping at different heights and also different spacing of boards, there will be alot of other grow lights tested in the same way also. Unfortunately some guy with a par meter really isn't good enough for serious people.
If you want a free test done look me up but it would be a shame to not have you guys on the database.
If you want a free test done look me up but it would be a shame to not have you guys on the database.
NanoGadget
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Well at this point you have yet to talk to a representative of HLG, so you don't really know what tests they do or do not run. Secondly, you stated that you are working for a competitor, so how does HLG know that you'd be impartial and acting in good faith when conducting your tests?
TEKNIK
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I don't work for a competitor, I test lights for my own business. The results for the tests can be manipulated but I have no interest in manipulating test results. I can show people how to see if any manipulation has occurred of tests. If HLG want to get tests done they can do them themselves with someone local. My interest is having a database with full transparency that is all. I believe that people on here are smart enough to learn how to use an IES file and it will become a normal thing within a few years for people to use an IES file to set up thier grow rooms before spending any money at all. They do not have to be part of it but others are going to be involved so I thought they may want to also be involved that's all.