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DWC Auto flower first Grow

Discussion in 'DWC/ Bubbleponics' started by VRZ711, Jan 18, 2017.

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    VRZ711

    VRZ711 Active Member

    thank you for your reply .

    should i soak the whole netpot? or just lift it up to the sink and flush it with h2o2 then clean water, then place back to the DWC?
    i have used less than 1/8 strength recharge till now, should i use more for the sake of the healthy plant?
    I know that H2O2 will kill all types of bacteria good
    the sick plant will be in the same res so this should benefit it too, if the bennies wont at least it can use the humic acids and amino acids in recharge.
     
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    NapalmZen

    NapalmZen Well-Known Member

    change your rez. bleach it clean. wash everything. i would let the net pots sit in a mild 3% h202 solution to clean them. fill the rez with fresh clean water, add fresh nutes to 200ppm, balance ph, then add full strength recharge.

    that is my suggestion.
     
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    VRZ711

    VRZ711 Active Member

    and i will do exactly as u suggest.
     
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    VRZ711

    VRZ711 Active Member

    Just did exactly what you said, full dose of recharge made so many bubbles as u can see. Final PPM is 280 before recharge, ppm of water before nutes 90

    Plant 1: wish me luck
    Day 16 from seed 1.jpg

    Plant 2: makes me happy when i look to it.
    Day 16 from seed 2.jpg
     
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    VRZ711

    VRZ711 Active Member

    Day 17 from seed Plant 2:
    Day 17 from seed 2_2.jpg
    i have lowered the water level a little, for the rockwool to be little dry, as its always wet and this makes me worried, the roots didnt come out the net pot yet, do you think that growth is slow?
     
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    Vageta

    Vageta New Member

    2 months today, dwc with flora nutes. Lowryder also my first dwc grow
     

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    VRZ711

    VRZ711 Active Member

    why its so stretched ? lowryder should not grow more than 60 CM and by 2 months it suppose to finish, don't u think so ?
     
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    NapalmZen

    NapalmZen Well-Known Member

    Lowrider will do that. It depends on the lights. It depends on how far away they are.

    Mine has 4 main stems. The top is right up to the scrog screen so I placed it in my big tent.
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    Vageta

    Vageta New Member

    I have no idea brotha. Its my first grow
     
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    Vageta

    Vageta New Member

    And i had the lights right
    Over em they just kept growing taller n taller until that point. I had to keep liftin the light
    Like 2 inches away from it cuz when i came home from work like every 3 days the top was touching my
    LedLights. So i had to raise Em. But hell ima have me some greens thats all i cAre about. Next grow will b better
     
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    NapalmZen

    NapalmZen Well-Known Member

    Blurple led will stretch your plants. Mine was under a blurple and now a cfl/blurple combo.

    Get something like HPS, a 315, or cob and it won't.

    I actually grew mine as I did because I had the seeds and thought it would be fun to grow one in my diy mini dwc as an experiment.
     
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    VRZ711

    VRZ711 Active Member

    my plant no 2 groth is stunned, i checked the roots for the first time to know whats going on, there is no root growth !!!! barely coming out of the rockwool !! i start to worry now !!! i have no idea what to do ! i just dont want to lose the last hope !
     
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    NapalmZen

    NapalmZen Well-Known Member

    Toss the rockwool. You put concentrated bennies in the rockwool and it is probably killing your roots. The black rockwool is bad. I have said this multiple times.

    It is probably starving your roots for a air too. I use 6 inch net pots and my water was around 1-2 inches under the net pot. I have aggressive airstones so it's fine for my setup. It kept everything moist with dry top hydroton.

    Never add concentrated nutes or bennies strait to the rockwool used for starting. It's fine in the rez, but can suffocate or poison your roots.

    For starting, I use a full dose of rapidstart, a 1/8th dose of superthrive, and a 1/8th dose of armor si. I mix this 2 liters at a time for cloning and seeds. For seeds, I soak the rockwool in this solution then add it once a week with common tap water in between for my usual watering.

    Other than that, the best advice I can offer is so simplify your method as much as possible. I top fed with a syringe and tap water for my plants. My water temps were in the 72-78 range and I practiced cleanliness using h202 35% to clean everything. My seedlings were fine. It wasn't till the roots were in the water that I had an issue.

    So again, the best advice I can give it to remove the rockwool and gently clean your roots. Rapidstart will promote new root growth. Superthrive is packed full of vitamins and armor si makes your plant more resilient.

    Your local hydro shop should be able to help you build a cloning/starting tray for around $25. Using that you can start your plants there and wait till you have roots leaving your starter media before planting in the hydroron. It will make life easier. But that part is up to you.
     
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    VRZ711

    VRZ711 Active Member

    Thats what i did, just replicated a bubbler setup. hope it will work, and before i inserted it i washed the roots with 3% H2O2, also as u can see i couldn't remove the whole rockwool, without damaging the roots.

    hope this will work !
     

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    VRZ711

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    the problem is there is no hydro shops around and the closest is 500 miles away. thats why i order all from amazon, should i make another order ?
    i can order Amor Si, but not rapid rooter nor superthrive.

    also do i need to order something for the bloom? as i dont have any products now but the GH flora trio, sub B and M, Recharge, btw recharge has amino acids and humic acids.

    PS: Amazon needs 7 days to reach my location :(
     
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    NapalmZen

    NapalmZen Well-Known Member

    where are you located. please dont be too specific. i just want to know where to look so i can see what you have access to.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004JWASTS/ref=sr_ph_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486316332&sr=sr-1&keywords=rapidstart

    i found this in the UK. price is way off. i would not purchase without contacting the dealer.
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005H7955...d=1486316332&sr=sr-1&keywords=rapidstart&th=1

    now, if you live in AU, you are kinda fucked. you will have to order from US and pay the insane shipping costs.


    superthrive can be found at any major chain store with a garden section. it has been a cornerstone of gardening for around 70 years.
     
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    NapalmZen

    NapalmZen Well-Known Member

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    NapalmZen

    NapalmZen Well-Known Member

    no, and ill tell you why. bloom boosters are just a pk booster. you have ingredients in the trio that have just pk. GH did this on purpose.

    eventually you taper off the grow formula and start ramping the bloom. this does the same thing as a bloom booster.
     

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    VRZ711

    VRZ711 Active Member


    no way i can get superthrive, for the rapid rooter i can get the 500 ML bottle only and its 44$ , dont know why they dont ship the 125 ML to my location, and yes i pay so much for the shipping for any item.

    what do you think about my new setup ?


    i guess i can make something similar, also i wont be starting many seeds, maybe 2 in 2 months.

    Good to know. thank you again for all your help!
     
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    NapalmZen

    NapalmZen Well-Known Member

    that sucks man. but either way, that is great stuff. there are similar products though. just dont use it during flower. it is poisonous to humans.

    punch this into amazon and see what you can find. "ROOT EXCELURATOR"
    it looks good for a small starter. i use the aerogarden grow anything kit for my mini dwc.
    https://www.amazon.com/Miracle-Gro-...rd_wg=mhmev&psc=1&refRID=AHEGJ3N6TPCMW609CAW5
    it has everything you need but you will need to suspend your plants from the top to prevent them from falling over once they get big.
    yes. i only suggest this as it is a good base starter. if you ever scale your setup it will have the room. you can start one or thirty. you can also clone in it later if you wish. it will let you grow from seed up to 7" or when roots protrude from the rockwool.
    welcome
     

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