found gnat and slime help plz

Hi,

I am running a bubble bucket as a test and ran into an issue. Specs 5 gallon black res bucket with about 3 1/2 gallons of pH 6.0 water. local chemical nutrient line up. res last changed 5 days ago. ppm at 610 on hannah meter. use 29% h202 to clean and was using as preventative until i noticed much faster root growth with aquashield. oh res temp 71 degrees.

ok. i found a dead gnat in some goop in the roots. the goop doesnt really feel slimey but i posted a pic of it. also pic of plant which is growing quite fast for being under a cfl and being supercropped.

Can anyone identify this? Also not like im seeing lotsof gnats and my res is lightproofed but there s enoughspace or gnats to get in obviously.

thanks

I fimmed some so thats where mutnt leaves came from

root snot. gross. my shit was similar, but darker. if its anything like root slime, h202 wont do shit. i like to run a sterile environment in my dwc... my guess is, the aquashield, which is liquid compost, aka organic, aka not sterile, is giving you the snot. ive heard massive amounts of testimony loving aquashield, and it being very helpful for keeping slime and fungus and whatnot out of your buckets. i use dutch master zone because its all chemical. it has copper in it which i used to use to kill algae in swimming pools. the shit works. anyway, id use benificial bacteria tea, which you can find on this forum, let that run for like a week, clean the fuck out of everything with bleach, i use it with no ill effects, then go back to sterile with zone in your buckets. you should cut those nasty roots off too. your not so far along that they wont grow back in a few days.

Hygrozyme!

Yeah i was looking at hiesenbergs tea. With the massive root explosion when i stopped using h202 I may try using beneficials. this is just a test to see how i like dwc. Would like to grow about 8 trees dwc if i can figure out the snot though.

thanks

water temps under 70 and some dm zone and youll be good to go. benis get tricky in hydro. bad bacteria can grow just as easy as good in those conditions. thats why i stay sterile. like i said just use the benies to fix the problem then get that shit out before it becomes food for bad bacteria. trust me, once you start using benies, you see debris all over your buckets, its gross, at least with me that was the case. but i felt like i had to clean the buckets every week when using benies. sterile i can go 2 months and still have no to very little debris in my buckets. i prefer that since i have 50 buckets. thats a mothe fucker to clean.

ps... be mindful of those gnats. could be root aphids. those fuckers suck. if you see little fuckers munching your roots or little eggs at the water line stuck to the edge of your buckets, then you have root aphids. if thats the case, you can not fuck around. you must use serious chemicals to eradicate. organic shit will just knock them back it wont eliminate the problem. people will tell you to tear your garden down and move cause those fuckers, dont listen to them. ive gotten rid of them with spectracide and bayer tree and shrub. havent seen one since.

last thing... you cant use those chemicals in flower. you do not want to smoke that shit. i veg at least 2 more weeks if i had to use it. but its better then dealing with root aphids the rest of your grow. those things kill your yield.

Cool thanks for the info bro. ive dealt with mite imfestations on 88 three foot tall plants in unmovable nft systems before. Since this cloe did come from a dispensary i will keep a close eye for aphids. i fucking hate pests. Used Avid to kill off infestation of mites for bloom then killed all plants in house bleached everything..and still had small colony on start up.

disgusting, look like some nut

yeah it really does look like semen. Never noticed this gunk in any other grow method. I am going to try hiesenbergs tea then total res/root clean. Please if anyone can identify this particular slime i would appreciate it. Am planning a real dwc grow but i want kinks worked out

is your avatar a grow of yours?

Yes it is. From about 3 or 4 years ago.

The uneven canopy in the background is from a crazy pheno from sensi seed super skunk. Grew like a freaking blackberry bush. Branches with rock solid buds came up through trellis 4 feet away from the stalk lol.

that shit looks epic. you dial in dwc like you did that grow and your looking pretty fucking good.

Thanks dude, that room was 4000 watts 36 plants. room next to it was 8000 watts 52 plants. ill pull some photos from my old harddrive sometime. was 8 inch pvc piping hooked into rubbermaid tubs running nft. This an avg top from those rooms

So i decided to do a res change out..looked real close and found some more dead gnats and small black specks that under 90x magnification looked like egg sacs stuck up in the nasty looking roots. Cut off all the funky roots. Then made up a 9% or so h202 solution and set the whole netpot in it up to the base of the stalk in it n let it bubble for 15 mins. bleached and scrubbed everything. Hope the roots dont mind their chemical bath and that anything else didnt. still not sure if gnats were the problem or an indicator of rot.

the gnats or more likely aphids, are there because your root system is struggling. they like weak plants. i bet a bill its root aphids. btw the h202 wont do shit. drop your water temps to 62 or as close to it as possible, that really helps but only after you kill the shitty bacteria. for that, use good bacteria aka beneficials. im looking at your problem as root slime tho. ive never seen white jizz on roots. ive seen root rot, ive seen root slime, both are brown and both require different action to rid them. i have a feeling that shit will grow back tho. keep your shit sterile at least. i just see liquid compost as food for bacteria, good or bad. keep h202 or dm zone (even better) \in your water, and try to keep your water temp in the 60s.

Yeah im working on lowering temp. Not running aquashield. Got some 29% h202 running in there but prob gab some Zone. if i see this come back im gonna use a tea for a while then sterilize again.

Ive never had aphids before but im not seeing larvae and they really looked like gnats.

Oh well this fucking clone had mites when i got it so why wouldnt it have aphids right lol. Never getting a clone from dispensary again.

clone shopping is the worst. always bugs. root aphids look just like fungus gnats at the end of there life cycle. fg's have larva that eat your roots, ra's have these little mite looking fuckers, then both turn into flyers that look pretty similar. little eggs on your buckets sides at the water line is tell tale for sure. little root munchers are easy to spot to.

good luck man. regardless of what you have to put in, once you get it dialed in and right its so worth it. im sure yhou know that. peace

Good info thanks dude. For some reason i was thinking aphids were like worms or earwig looking. Dumb question...if i just clone this plant then trash the bucket and airstones..can aphids live in the branching and pass to clones? I have smked the trainwreck that came from the same grower that sold the cuts to the dispensary and wouldnt mind growing it.