Greenpoint seeds!!

dstroy

dstroy

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Chunky Stool said:
Did you use a zipper bag inside the machine?
Did you have to modify the machine?
I've heard people say that they remove filters and pumps because they get clogged.
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I didn’t modify the machine at all, it does about 3.5-4 gallons of water comfortably. I use a bag inside of the machine.

The beauty of the countertop is it’s simplicity, no pump or filter and just the one motor. I’m not making a lot in one go, I’ll do about 1/2#.

Since I started making RSO that’s pretty much what we like to use. So this thing sits in my closet.
 
Yodaweed

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Maybe @rikdabrick can answer this, but I've never heard that the weed grown in the Puna district of Hawaii is inferior to weed grown in the dryer parts. They get 150-200 inches of rain a year there and produce great weed.[/QUOTE]
Sometimes we get an early or late frost, this year we had a frost in october, but most plants should have finished by then. Sometimes we will get a late storm so it's advised to transplant from indoor plants around june, finish usually late sept early oct.
 
macsnax

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BleedsGreen said:
Actually we have been squishing some dry ice made sift and it has worked really well other then using older trim so it is darker then I would like it, but very potent and actually what I have done so far delicious.
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Gotta love the flavor of some fresh squished. Check out static tech or paint roller tech dry sift. You only pull the trichome heads. The stalks can get squished for a lower grade or whatever else you would like to do with them. That's how these guys like the the jungle boys are making that super light colored and even white looking rosin..... I just realized I might sound like I'm telling you what to do. I'm not, in just passing along some info I thought you might be interested in.
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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macsnax said:
Gotta love the flavor of some fresh squished. Check out static tech or paint roller tech dry sift. You only pull the trichome heads. The stalks can get squished for a lower grade or whatever else you would like to do with them. That's how these guys like the the jungle boys are making that super light colored and even white looking rosin..... I just realized I might sound like I'm telling you what to do. I'm not, in just passing along some info I thought you might be interested in.
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Got any good links for making sift?
 
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ShyGuru

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When making ice water hash I like to rinse it a few times to remove contaminants. The idea being the trichs sink while the plant matter floats. I've only ever used the blender method but since I wash it 5-7 times it comes out golden. I just purchased a counter top washer but haven't used it yet. The same principal could still work so long as you drain into a catch bucket instead of draining the water to waste.
 
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40AmpstoFreedom

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Yodaweed said:
Hate to tell you this, but actually LEDs need higher run temps because they don't have IR in their spectrum. Otherwise you won't get the same perspiration rates and growth will be considerably slower.
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Lots of LEDs these days have full spectrum. That includes IR and UV. I didn't switch until full spectrum.
 
Humanrob

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slow drawl said:
Thx man..I agree 100%. I guess as long as I have so many different seeds in stock, I just wanna try em all. And I suppose shouldn't really focus on production from the tent now since I have no shortage of anything at present. I suspect I'll get around 10oz from the 7 plants which would last me for head smoke for some time. I am a gardener at heart and just used to having large harvest from my gardens, exciting new territory for sure.
Interested in a GH?
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One nice thing about indoor is that I can play with long flower time Sativa's... of course depending on the time of year, that can add up $$$ with either AC and/or dehumidifiers running those extra weeks. Everything in my outdoor was filtered through the "short flower time" requirement, so it's nice to put all those other strains back in the running with my indoor.
 
Humanrob

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quiescent said:
When it's dried and then frozen for the wash you'll get way more impurities due to how brittle the material is. It's easy to over agitate, by vigor or duration, dried materials. Once the fresh frozen hits the ice water it's not gonna break apart as easily as the dried.
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I'm still in the steep part of the learning curve... I've read what you've said but I've also read that the advantage to dry is that you can let it cure while its still buds. I've been curing my hash buds for 3 months before freezing them, and I'm sure the hash I make is not as "pure" but the smell and flavor seems richer than when I did fresh frozen. I'm lucky, I'm not trying to sell it, I just have one patient to keep happy and she seems to like what I've been making.

In the past I've cured the hash itself, but since I'm not micro plaining anymore I don't want to risk mold while its curing. I tried a lot of variations and have batches come out a light golden green, and others come out an oily brown, what you've said would explain why (I've also done everything from hand mix with an oar to over-mix with a paint mixing bit on a drill, so there are lots of variables and mistakes I've made along the way). I'm not sure I'm making the best product possible, but I've found a method I can live with that my patient appreciates, so it's all good.
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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Humanrob said:
I'm still in the steep part of the learning curve... I've read what you've said but I've also read that the advantage to dry is that you can let it cure while its still buds. I've been curing my hash buds for 3 months before freezing them, and I'm sure the hash I make is not as "pure" but the smell and flavor seems richer than when I did fresh frozen. I'm lucky, I'm not trying to sell it, I just have one patient to keep happy and she seems to like what I've been making.

In the past I've cured the hash itself, but since I'm not micro plaining anymore I don't want to risk mold while its curing. I tried a lot of variations and have batches come out a light golden green, and others come out an oily brown, what you've said would explain why (I've also done everything from hand mix with an oar to over-mix with a paint mixing bit on a drill, so there are lots of variables and mistakes I've made along the way). I'm not sure I'm making the best product possible, but I've found a method I can live with that my patient appreciates, so it's all good.
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Have you tried those little $50 washing machines?
I thought they were for people who make a LOT of hash, but it sounds like they make better hash than using a drill & spoon.
Several tutorials I watched said it's better *not* to use a 220 zipper bag in the machine because the weed has more room to move around and interact inside the vortex.
Not sure if that's true because I'm clueless about this stuff.
What do you think?
 
Blake_n_Concentrates

Blake_n_Concentrates

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Chunky Stool said:
Have you tried those little $50 washing machines?
I thought they were for people who make a LOT of hash, but it sounds like they make better hash than using a drill & spoon.
Several tutorials I watched said it's better *not* to use a 220 zipper bag in the machine because the weed has more room to move around and interact inside the vortex.
Not sure if that's true because I'm clueless about this stuff.
What do you think?
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By far and away the best hash making video and expert out there. I love Frenchy, such a cool and genuine guy. There was a series of videos that covered much better but youtube must have put the hammer down on his account so this is the next best thing:
 
Yodaweed

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40AmpstoFreedom said:
Lots of LEDs these days have full spectrum. That includes IR and UV. I didn't switch until full spectrum.
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That is simply not true, nearly all LEDs that are currently used for grow lights have zero UV and zero IR. The only grow light LEDs that include UV are ones that have an additional light attached to them like CLW Solar Storm series.

Quantum boards, and the vast majority of COB lights have zero UV or IR in them.

Here's a chart of quantum boards
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1538/8585/products/HLG100_spectrum_17a54ac4-beae-4d87-867a-a8ef88e7e5d6_1024x1024.png?v=1532753433

Zero IR , zero UV same with COB lights and all white LEDs, zero UV, zero IR.

You may need to do more research on grow lighting in the future before making purchases, LEDs are not full spectrum in my book.
 
Heisenbeans

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Yodaweed said:
That is simply not true, nearly all LEDs that are currently used for grow lights have zero UV and zero IR. The only grow light LEDs that include UV are ones that have an additional light attached to them like CLW Solar Storm series.

Quantum boards, and the vast majority of COB lights have zero UV or IR in them.

Here's a chart of quantum boards
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1538/8585/products/HLG100_spectrum_17a54ac4-beae-4d87-867a-a8ef88e7e5d6_1024x1024.png?v=1532753433

Zero IR , zero UV same with COB lights and all white LEDs, zero UV, zero IR.

You may need to do more research on grow lighting in the future before making purchases, LEDs are not full spectrum in my book.
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What uv do u reccomend.would love to do a side by side with and without and put this old uv urban legend to bed on trich development.
 
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ShyGuru

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Greenthumbs256 said:
that's a long time fight like led vs hps u get different answers depending on who you ask!
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This is simply my opinion... Fresh frozen works better with the gentle agitation of the washing machine whereas dried and cured worked better when using more vigorous methods. I know from experience using the blender method that fresh frozen will leave significantly more chlorophyll behind in the water and can stain the final product a greenish tinge. Dried and cured works better for me seemingly because it will float out easier during the wash.
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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Heisenbeans said:
What uv do u reccomend.would love to do a side by side with and without and put this old uv urban legend to bed on trich development.
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No urban legend, many many documented studies have been done including ones by LED manufactorers , here's just one example

https://californialightworks.com/uvb-light-and-thc-potency/

" Growers have realized an increase of up to 30% THC percentage by using supplemental UVB light but the actual mechanism was not well understood."

I recommend an agromax pure uv t5 bulb.

AgroMax Pure UV T5
The AgroMax Pure UV T5 provides your garden with a concentrated blast of UV-A and UV-B spectrum light. Indoor plants, by virtue of being grown under artificial light, have little to no exposure to UV in traditional setups, however, UV light is a powerful bloom boosting light of which many gardeners have yet to take advantage. Scientific studies show that when plants are subject to UV-B light many of their natural defense mechanisms are triggered. Think of it as your plants producing their own sunblock to resist the UV rays. It is exactly this defense reaction which is targeted by many indoor growers. In many plant species, exposure to UV-B light will significantly boost and cause changes in phenolic compounds, flavonoid pigments, resins, oils, etc.

Gardening with UV Light
UV light is excellent for increasing yield and bettering the overall quality of your plants, but one has to be cautious not to overexpose their plants. Overexposure to UV light will not have beneficial effects on plants, too much UV light can "sunburn" your plants. When treating your garden with UV light it is always best started with a low dose amount, with the lamp placed further away and with a shorter "on" time duration. Proper protective eyewear and long-sleeve clothing are necessary when working with UV lamps. Different species of plants have different innate tolerances for UV-B light, dependent on where that particular species is indigenous.

Or use a lighting system that has a proper spectrum.
 
NoWaistedSpace

NoWaistedSpace

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Yodaweed said:
No urban legend, many many documented studies have been done including ones by LED manufactorers , here's just one example

https://californialightworks.com/uvb-light-and-thc-potency/

" Growers have realized an increase of up to 30% THC percentage by using supplemental UVB light but the actual mechanism was not well understood."

I recommend an agromax pure uv t5 bulb.

AgroMax Pure UV T5
The AgroMax Pure UV T5 provides your garden with a concentrated blast of UV-A and UV-B spectrum light. Indoor plants, by virtue of being grown under artificial light, have little to no exposure to UV in traditional setups, however, UV light is a powerful bloom boosting light of which many gardeners have yet to take advantage. Scientific studies show that when plants are subject to UV-B light many of their natural defense mechanisms are triggered. Think of it as your plants producing their own sunblock to resist the UV rays. It is exactly this defense reaction which is targeted by many indoor growers. In many plant species, exposure to UV-B light will significantly boost and cause changes in phenolic compounds, flavonoid pigments, resins, oils, etc.

Gardening with UV Light
UV light is excellent for increasing yield and bettering the overall quality of your plants, but one has to be cautious not to overexpose their plants. Overexposure to UV light will not have beneficial effects on plants, too much UV light can "sunburn" your plants. When treating your garden with UV light it is always best started with a low dose amount, with the lamp placed further away and with a shorter "on" time duration. Proper protective eyewear and long-sleeve clothing are necessary when working with UV lamps. Different species of plants have different innate tolerances for UV-B light, dependent on where that particular species is indigenous.

Or use a lighting system that has a proper spectrum.
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I have 4 of the 4ft Agromax Pure UV's. Haven't used them enough to make any kind of judgement.
 
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