Ladder Theory

Pseudonym

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So my girl and I were talking tonight over dinner about this guy who likes her and how he doesn't understand that she doesn't want anything to do with him despite her clearly indicating so and she brought up Ladder Theory. I've heard of it and remembered a lot of it from when I read all about it years ago, but I was wondering what everyone here generally thinks of it.

I'd have to say just based on her situation Ladder Theory is dead on. She met this guy in a class through a group project and thought he would make a good friend. I've met the kid too and he's a nice enough guy, definitely someone I could see her wanting as a friend.

But then this is where Ladder Theory comes in: women have two ladders in which they classify people. One is the "Friend Ladder" and the other is the "Mate Ladder." There is no jumping between ladders ever, you're either a friend or a potential mate for a girl. But guys have a single ladder, being the "Mate Ladder." We supposedly automatically rank the women we meat based on how badly we want to get with them. There are no friends, only mates. So when this guy started making more audacious moves for her attention she was shocked and freaked out. He tried to sleep over at her place after working on the project once and she had to end up kicking him out.

Now she's sort of disappointed because she really thought he would have made a good friend, which is why she ended up agreeing with the premise of Ladder Theory. And now she can't even talk to him without being afraid of leading him on. She wanted nothing to do with this guy in any sort of sexual, boyfriend, or relationship way, but he saw it differently and didn't realize he was on the "Friend Ladder."

There's a pretty good article on Wikipedia about Ladder Theory, but I was wondering what everyone else thought too.
 

OregonMeds

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They say women know in the first couple of seconds of meeting men. And I've seen a ton of guys who are just flat out blinded by attraction and can't seem to take a hint when a woman is clearly not interested that way and just wants to be friends.

Some guys can be just as thick as hell... 1000 hints dropped by girls as obvious as can be that there's no interest from them at all, and soe guys still don't get it.

Must be some chemical hormone thing. Brain must shut down...

We should have classes in school on this stuff I think. How to tell when a girl has no interest... Right and wrong ways to flirt...

It should be a prerequisite for high school graduation.
 

diemdepyro

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When I was young I missed lots of relationships because i could not tell when a chick was hitting on me. Older now I could teach a class on it.
 

Iron Lion Zion

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We should have classes in school on this stuff I think. How to tell when a girl has no interest... Right and wrong ways to flirt...

It should be a prerequisite for high school graduation.
I don't think you could jam all that info into 4 years of High School.:hump:
 

misshestermoffitt

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What sucks is that he had good friend potential but since he thinks that somehow, someway he has a chance, that blows the friendship out of the water.

Why is it so hard for guys to understand that some women like to have male friends that they don't want to sleep with, or marry, etc.
 

Biggravy22

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I agree to a certain extent. Some guys including myself have put themselves in positions to jump from ladder to ladder. Sometimes on purpose...sometimes on accident. Girl might see you and physically want to get it on, and then the guy does something to downgrade his status. Or the guy is doing everything right but is just to stupid to notice.
 

OregonMeds

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Hormones

With some guys that calms down after you're 30-40 or so, but then again I know a lot of guys still that are like...:wall: and never matured.
 

Biggravy22

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Hormones

With some guys that calms down after you're 30-40 or so, but then again I know a lot of guys still that are like...:wall: and never matured.

LOL...Still girl crazy at 35. It's sad to watch older men grovel over women. Like dude you should have learned at 17 not to put the pussy on a pedestal.
 

Pseudonym

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What sucks is that he had good friend potential but since he thinks that somehow, someway he has a chance, that blows the friendship out of the water.

Why is it so hard for guys to understand that some women like to have male friends that they don't want to sleep with, or marry, etc.
Yeah I gotta agree. Luckily I'm one of those guys who gets it (I think). I live with two of my girl friends whom I've known since high school and I would never even think of them in any sort of way except as friends.

It's crazy how men and women think differently though.
 

poplars

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eh, I don't think it's impossible to change ladders. it depends on the chick I suppose but I've definitely changed ladders before with a girl I was friends with for years and then hooked up with her. unless I was always in the potential mate ladder and I never knew it . . .

however, I think it is possible to gradually change a females mind about you.
 

funkdocKT

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or if youre hung like Funk you just whip it out onto the table when you guys are smoking...you'll go from the friend ladder to the mate ladder instantly
 

humblesmurph

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I dig the theory.

I think when cats think that they jumped the ladder, it's because they didn't know that they were on the mate ladder all along.

Sometimes a lady has you on the mate ladder, but can't move you up to to circumstance (like you are dating her friend).

Of course, while you are dating her friend, she's gonna act like you were on the friend ladder.

However, as soon as you are free, she will reveal her true intentions pretending like it just happened out of the blue
 

Pseudonym

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I dig the theory.

I think when cats think that they jumped the ladder, it's because they didn't know that they were on the mate ladder all along.

Sometimes a lady has you on the mate ladder, but can't move you up to to circumstance (like you are dating her friend).

Of course, while you are dating her friend, she's gonna act like you were on the friend ladder.

However, as soon as you are free, she will reveal her true intentions pretending like it just happened out of the blue
Yeah, that's kinda what I was thinking too.
 

Adamus P.R.I.M.E.

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When I was young I missed lots of relationships because i could not tell when a chick was hitting on me.
+1

do a google search for Neil Strauss... He's got 3 books out...

The Game
http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating-Secret-Society-Artists/dp/0060554738/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231278992&sr=8-2

And The Rules Of The Game ** 2 parts**
http://www.amazon.com/Rules-Game-Neil-Strauss/dp/0061540455/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231278992&sr=8-1

I also know a lil bit Neurolinguistic Programing or NLP, body language, and Pick Up...
 

funkdocKT

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+1

do a google search for Neil Strauss... He's got 3 books out...

The Game
http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating-Secret-Society-Artists/dp/0060554738/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231278992&sr=8-2

And The Rules Of The Game ** 2 parts**
http://www.amazon.com/Rules-Game-Neil-Strauss/dp/0061540455/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231278992&sr=8-1

I also know a lil bit Neurolinguistic Programing or NLP, body language, and Pick Up...
Strauss is good...but if you want some real game you have to look up and google Gorgeous Dre (from The Hughes Brother's hit documentary American Pimp)...dude is a "lifestyle coach" and motivational speaker now

hahaha
 
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