Led Growing Is The Way Of The Future My Friends

You are not on my side. I wont allow it. You are a troll, and probably like 13 years old.

I reported like 6 or your posts, and will continue to do so as I find them. You are a mean person who "pretends" to be on "our side" just to tell us your dick is bigger than ours with your heat lamps.

We are all here to learn how grow pot. You are trying to prevent us from doing so. You are no better than the government trying to stop us from enjoying our pot that helps with our medical problems.

My LEDs grow me my weed which allows me to cure my insomnia and help with back pains and neck pains.

Dude, you are a terrorist.

Harrekin said:

Fire away, enjoy your LEDs, but encouraging new growers to spend that much money with fantastical claims about its electricity savings based solely on watt for watt sums that dont actually add up for anyone not living in a hot climate is wrong when a HID could work just as well for them for ALOT less scrilla-vanilla.

And as I said before (but you didnt read it) if you want this to advance at more than a snails pace, the companies need a big market share (so they can invest more into the product) which they havnt got at the moment.

And again, I want LEDs to advance, I want to replace my HPS with them but for the moment it would be a pointlessly large cost with NO ACTUAL benefit over what I have now...that is the main obstacle these companies face, do you not understand this concept of business at all?

You obviously dont get it, but I am actually on your side, you just cant see it yet.

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Ok fine here if you must see...5 AK48's day 33 of flower under a 600w HPS, topped, and then flowered 3-4 weeks after sprouting.

Iv never grown a plant...lol.

EDIT: OMG, how have you still not read ANYTHING I posted? And I wonder if the personal attacks you made against me I have in quotes in those posts you reported will work towards you or against you...

DOUBLE EDIT: And you dont just report someone if you dont want to hear what they're saying btw.

Looks like you took the pic through someones blinds.

Those aren't yours.

Harrekin said:

Ok fine here if you must see...5 AK48's day 33 of flower under a 600w HPS topped and 3 flowered 3-4 weeks after sprouting.

Iv never grown a plant...lol.

EDIT: OMG, how have you still not read ANYTHING I posted? And I wonder if the personal attacks you made against me I have in quotes in those posts you reported will work towards you or against you...

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No actually, if you read what I said, I really really like LEDs, they're cool, but they provide me no incentive to change what I already have because what I have works really well and was/is really cheap to buy. To do a comparable grow Id need to spend possibly over $1500? I dont run A/C, just an extractor and an oscillating fan so Id literally gain nothing.

You get me now? I want LED's but for the moment Im not gonna stretch for them when I can take my family on holidays with that money and still grow amazing buds with what Im running.

If you NEED to use LED's then go ahead, your circumstances may leave you in a position that LED growing is your only option and you have to splash out, but they're not gonna win the other massive side of the market unless they offer some big advantage over what they currently use or are at a competitive price.

Look at cellphones...when they first came out they were HUGE, did fuck-all and only very few people had them (so you couldnt call many people, no advantage really over a landline in most circumstances), but the manufacturers eventually dropped the prices, lots of people bought them and now only 20 odd years later they've advanced to be almost unrecognisable from their original form because the companies could invest and grow.

EDIT: And the flickery pictures is because the ballast frequency/refresh rate is different to that of a cell phone camera btw, how can you say I dont really grow? Iv two journals with updated pictures every like 3 days?!

Gary Busey said:

Tú eres el más grande perra nunca. No hay ninguno más grande.

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Spanish to English translation


You are the biggest bitch ever. There is none greater


Reported

EDIT: For the record, why the personal abuse man? I havnt ONCE said a negative thing about you in this thread or elsewhere.

Gary Busey said:

They are 135 watts per unit, with two 45 watt power sources powering the 45 3 watt LEDs, and three 1.5 watt fans. Black case.

I wont be selling them, but I can pass along the info to where I got mine from.

This place has units starting at like 10 watts or something (I'm not sure on the really small stuff), and go all the way up to 540 (actual) watts.

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Btw, you're a new user, LED die-hard that wont accept anything said negatively about LEDs (infact you even take it personally), you want me off the thread (cos Im saying what you dont want to hear) and you're even offering to recommend a company you've "been emailing"...hmm...

Any pics of your LED grown crops out of interest? Since you called me a bullshitter and I showed you otherwise, care to do the same to backup anything you've been saying?

You in Ireland dude?

My dad is from County Cork.

Mom from Guadalajara.

But really, if you can't find something to talk about and agree on, move on until you find something you can talk about with others.

The fighting Irish...

I love fighting. Bare fisted. No rules. Anything goes.

Harrekin said:

Btw, you're a new user, LED die-hard that wont accept anything said negatively about LEDs (infact you even take it personally), you want me off the thread (cos Im saying what you dont want to hear) and you're even offering to recommend a company you've "been emailing"...hmm...

Any pics of your LED grown crops out of interest? Since you called me a bullshitter and I showed you otherwise, care to do the same to backup anything you've been saying?

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Actually people were only disagreeing me when they were reading your crazy interpretation of my posts.

Are you trying to say for all the panels you have and all the money you've spent on the 4 of them, that you couldnt get those results (in the pics you posted) with a 250w HPS (for like $120) and an even canopy? I could fully setup an aircooled 4 x 1000w HPS room with the money you spent on just your lights...who is gonna produce more? ANYONE could grow at least a kg every two months effortlessly with that for a cost of €260 a month (thats 5kwh's, not 4, just to cover extras). How much could you grow every two months for how much per month outta interest?

Anyways that aside, as Iv said before, if you NEED to use LED's use them, if you WANT to use them, fucking use them! But you shouldnt be recommending them as the only show in town to people if they have other cheaper options for the same results!

Harrekin said:

Ok fine here if you must see...5 AK48's day 33 of flower under a 600w HPS, topped, and then flowered 3-4 weeks after sprouting.

Iv never grown a plant...lol.

EDIT: OMG, how have you still not read ANYTHING I posted? And I wonder if the personal attacks you made against me I have in quotes in those posts you reported will work towards you or against you...

DOUBLE EDIT: And you dont just report someone if you dont want to hear what they're saying btw.

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so you refuse to stop?

fdd2blk said:

so you refuse to stop?

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So you want me to stop posting altogether then? Cos I stopped what I was saying earlier...what about all the personal attacks the newb made against me and I never once said a word about them? Why you coming down so hard on me for man? I'm not even breaking any rules...and still amn't.

The thread is called "LED growing is the way of the future" afterall,I was intact supporting this notion.

EDIT:Read back though my posts and Garys responses by the way,he never once actually addressed the content of my posts,he just made attack after attack,if anything I got trolled here not the other way around. Thanks.

So where can the LED users go to talk LEDs without people coming along badmouthing them, over and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again?

Did I mention , and over, and over, and over, and over again?

Harrekin said:

So you want me to stop posting altogether then? Cos I stopped what I was saying earlier...what about all the personal attacks the newb made against me and I never once said a word about them? Why you coming down so hard on me for man? I'm not even breaking any rules...and still amn't.

The thread is called "LED growing is the way of the future" afterall,I was intact supporting this notion.

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I'm not attacking you,still not read any of my posts? They've been there all day.

EDIT: This isn't an LED grow thread by the way,it's title says "LED growing is the way of the future",and it could possibly be,but for now it's not. And to be honest,LED looks like it's gonna get overtaken by sodium plasma lights soon,they're like a cross between LED and HID,check it out,exciting stuff.

Hey gary, don't let anyone get you down on leds. I'm super happy with mine. Theres a lot of good led threads over in the indoor growing forum where the led hate has died off and good information is being shared. Sorry about the bickering youve experienced here so far, but just wanted to let you know there are some great friendly led growers here who know their stuff and are proving to the doubters that solid grows can be achieved today with led lights. Good luck out there

Actually I have read all of them, some of them 2 or 3 times. And they all say the same thing, over and over again. We get it, you say they're too expensive. Now can you move on to other things please?

You are not an LED user, nor probably never even tried one, so you really don't have an opinion on them that carries any value. I have used HPS, MH, MV, CFL, T5, T12 and LED, my opinions are based on 1st hand experience. Yes, I got great results with HPS, I like my HPS and the results it gave me. I liked all the lights I've used less the MV (now that is a heat lamp). But, I chose to not use HPS anymore because I prefer LED now. I can afford LED panels, and have no problem whatsoever paying form them. I make decent money as a web designer, and do not have a problem paying a few hundred dollars on something that works for me.

Harrekin said:

I'm not attacking you,still not read any of my posts? They've been there all day.

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puffenuff said:

Hey gary, don't let anyone get you down on leds. I'm super happy with mine. Theres a lot of good led threads over in the indoor growing forum where the led hate has died off and good information is being shared. Sorry about the bickering youve experienced here so far, but just wanted to let you know there are some great friendly led growers here who know their stuff and are proving to the doubters that solid grows can be achieved today with led lights. Good luck out there

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Dude Noone is bickering about the lights,Gary just for some reason seems to think ANY even slightly negative comment about them is directed at him for some reason. He's not even discussing the lights.

I've seen a few decent LED threads here, including yous (nice job btw )

It just gets old and frustrating having to deal with people that don't know what they're talking about.

puffenuff said:

Hey gary, don't let anyone get you down on leds. I'm super happy with mine. Theres a lot of good led threads over in the indoor growing forum where the led hate has died off and good information is being shared. Sorry about the bickering youve experienced here so far, but just wanted to let you know there are some great friendly led growers here who know their stuff and are proving to the doubters that solid grows can be achieved today with led lights. Good luck out there

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Everything I post on here is untrue internet hardman talk, although I like to learn about this means in no way do I condone breaking the law, everything I post is lies and pictures I show are sourced online

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Your signature tells the truth.

Harrekin said:

Dude Noone is bickering about the lights,Gary just for some reason seems to think ANY even slightly negative comment about them is directed at him for some reason. He's not even discussing the lights.

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I can afford the lights my dear friend,my job probably nets more than yours,I said the price has to come down before the big advancements can be made cos at the moment there is little incentive for real innovation with such a small market. Infact you can even buy a 400w LEP for cheaper than a 400w LED now,so the LED price will drop soon anyways and then you'll see it come on in leaps and bounds.

Trust me,it's how business works.

Ok I'll completly change the tone then.Gary,do you believe current LED tech is better than the new sodium plasma lights? They're like a HPS for raw output,as cool as an LED and come with a 100% natural sunlight spectrum. We are supposed to be discussing the future here...