any chance u would know where i can get two of those?
No, I don't know where to get the best deal on Blackstars, and the company I went with dosen't sell the 395w anymore (its been upgraded to a 500w) sry
its really only a 140w, should be good enough for 2 plants.
hahaha weird that a guy from another led company would give you bad info on another led product....... duh he wants you to buy his lol and at quite the mark up i might add im not a seller and i only own a older model led i bought off a freind but due to the overwhelming feedback and youtube videos both grows and light meter test show that blackstar leds generally do alot better again i dont own one but i plan on getting one ive been looking at gotham hydronics website based out of new york guy has good deals and seeems like a legit company
A shill trying to call out a shill...sad!
a shill huh im not familiar with your slang there homes but if by shill you mean a stoner that also likes to grow and has chosen leds because i dont want to pay for expensive air conditioning units and i dont want to burn my house down with your stupid primitive caveman heat lamps that if you even want a decent system will end up costing you up the ass any way and your fans are big and loud where mine are small and quiet and i dont have to steal power or even hook up from my pannel its pretty rediculous in my eyes when my setup cost way less makes less noise and i can leave my shit for weeks at a time if i want seems like alot of pros to me ...... again im not a seller of led products i dont care what you do or what anyone else does i suport anyone in the industry and i dont make claims like my 120w led will beat out a 400w hps or any shit in my opinion it would stand up to a 250w hps system but again mines a gen old or so but im still impressed its from china no name but even a few companies outa china ship nice stuff just gotta know what your getting any way like i said look around on youtube at the grow and light test vids with blackstar pretty good lookin stuff but for all anyone knows there all just lies i find it hard to trust anyone or anything these days thats why ima try and pick one or two up and see for sure how they do. i wouldnt tell someone directly to buy anything just cause ya never know so as far as a shill im far from that my friend just someone who has decided to adapt to the new technologies that are availible these days ive done hps soil grows with great success even at a large scale now i run a hydro led setup because of the advantages i have found for myself. if you like heating your grow room to crazy temps and dealing with possible fires and explodong bulbs and power theft and or power re routing and all that fucked up shit you guys love dealing with on hps setups then hey man so be it but i got shit to do in life i like to travel and not have to worry to much or at all but you know what they say different strokes for different folks
yeah I've seen those. they're awesome. but a bit bulky vertically and the price is $3500 right now and not available to the public. they plan on releasing it to the public in 2 years. but it will probably be longer than that. currently you have to be a university or a research facility to acquire one. it also draws 1300 watts and puts out 1000 watts of light but zero heat and no uv light
That's what it comes down to. Lower power bills are nice, but I'll pay more in electricity to get bigger buds and a better yield. Not a difficult decision IMO.
No you are!lets try to refrain from the insults and stay with discussing growing.
thank you
i can see that i forgot to mention that the light test i saw was with that exact model he was talking about i believe i did a little bit worse nothin to much but the price tag is almost twice as much but again who knows coulda been setup to make it look like that ill let everyone know when i get mine just trying to help people with my info i would hate to see someone get screwed over on lack of knowledge on the product and its compeditors
Reckon it'd be worthwhile?
hmmm well my man im currently in my first led hydro grow so i cant tell ya what my average yeild is but i shouldnt be taken as an example i have dealt with alot of soil hps grows some my own some not but never hydro or led so my usual techniques did not work out as well i topped my plants too early apparently haha and two of my three were stunted a bit and some other small difficulties but now everything is going great as far as comparison im probly gonna have to wait till next grow to get an accurate attempt at it i will be posting what my yield is for sure but i dunno how its gonna be one of the girls is huge and bushy but the other two are a little smaller...... as far as your side lighting ya man i would look around a bit but this guy outa new york gotham hydroponics has black star lights going at about 1 dollar a watt thats the best ive seen around for the apparent quality these things produce.....also the cheapest ive seen the blackstar products go for he does shipping and shit i think and has other leds and hps setups as well looks like a pretty legit company to me but again ya never know. i think he had the 240w for 270 and the 600w model for around 600 bucks i think obviously the 600 would be over kill but the 240 might work good for you or that and a couple ufo's but ya might end up costin ya a fair bit. two of the 240w panels would light the shit out of the sides of your plants and probly would plump up your popcorn big time but 500 bucks just for that is a little much.Ahh cool man,just as I said before,people are weary of "new members" shilling LEDs.
Since you seem like a reasonable dude to talk to and not a closed minded fanboy,what sorta honest yields you pulling from your LEDs? I have a 600w HPS in a tent with only 5/6 plants,but that's about the limit of what I can put in there HID wise,and I wanna up my yields even more (but at a good cost/benefit ratio). I wouldn't change to full LED (until they get better than HID and cheaper that at present) but any decent relatively cheap panels out there I could use for sidelighting?
Wanna turn the popcorn into big buds
You can use 90w LED's for supplemental, but not cheaply. I'd rather just go to home depot and pick up some t5's for $10 each, then mount them all along the sides of the tent. You can probably do that pretty well for $40-80 bucks. LED's are better supplemental lights than t5's, but you're looking at spending a $1k doing that with LED's instead of $40-100 bucks with t5's. I could never rationalize to myself spending $1k on supplemental lighting for a 600w system. It'd take like 100 years to make that worth it.Ahh cool man,just as I said before,people are weary of "new members" shilling LEDs.
Since you seem like a reasonable dude to talk to and not a closed minded fanboy,what sorta honest yields you pulling from your LEDs? I have a 600w HPS in a tent with only 5/6 plants,but that's about the limit of what I can put in there HID wise,and I wanna up my yields even more (but at a good cost/benefit ratio). I wouldn't change to full LED (until they get better than HID and cheaper that at present) but any decent relatively cheap panels out there I could use for sidelighting?
Wanna turn the popcorn into big buds
