Need help with the nutrients plzz

Hey wassup i have 600w balast and bulb there about 2 or 3 feet from the plants there are 4 of them.. as well im using hydroponics to grow my MJ..but im not sure if im using the right nutrients im using mirical grow somebody told me that was cool but im reading that pple only use that for soil...now the plants are sprouting real nice there out there seeds an have show of roots and 2 lil leaves and nice and green will the nutrients that im using cause a problem for the plants plzz help..​
 

Serapis

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You can use ANY water soluble nutrients, regardless of manufacturer. The important part is to keep the PPM and PH adjusted and of course, the water temps.
 

MeJuana

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The problem with using a non hydroponic nutrient for hydroponics is Hydro nutrients have the correct pH buffering approaches to help you maintain a great PH in hydro.. (Soil nutrients don't) If you are growing in dirt you have your own pH management approaches in the soil you mix together as well as PH'ing the water. Just as you do in Hydro but you use the nutrients to work in conjunction with the plant to always keep coming up around 5.8 pH. For me to explain how/why would give you an unnecessary headache, but either move them to dirt or get some hydro nutrients. You must maintain PH in hydro it screws them up bad otherwise.
 
alright but me movin them into soil wont mess the plant up if its already been groing in the hydropnics???and if i dont move it the lvl of ph should be 5.8 what about the ppm whats that?? mejuana??
 

moash

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Hey wassup i have 600w balast and bulb there about 2 or 3 feet from the plants there are 4 of them.. as well im using hydroponics to grow my MJ..but im not sure if im using the right nutrients im using mirical grow somebody told me that was cool but im reading that pple only use that for soil...now the plants are sprouting real nice there out there seeds an have show of roots and 2 lil leaves and nice and green will the nutrients that im using cause a problem for the plants plzz help..​
ive never tried to use mg in hydroponics and i probably wont,,i would get something meant for the purpose
also use plain ro water with a ph of 5.7-6.3 for a couple weeks,u dont need nutrients yet
 

MeJuana

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Can you list the info on that Miracle grow, the numbers from the front and what it is supposed to contain? Do you have a hydro store near you can you get CNS17 by Botanicare, it is pretty cheap. Yeah moving to dirt always shocks for about a weeks and you suffer severe leaf loss.

P.S. I forgot to mention that as well I don't give nutrients until 3 or 4 weeks OR until they start going pale.
 
but dont u have to feed it for the first month isnt that the most importnt month to feed it??8-7-6 and yea i have 1 pretty close to me the thing is money to a lil short so im tryin to make it work witht he mirical grow is it possible?? oh and i also have already fead it 1tbs and 1/2 is that to much already its been there for about 6 days and they look nice and green
 

moash

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but dont u have to feed it for the first month isnt that the most importnt month to feed it??8-7-6 and yea i have 1 pretty close to me the thing is money to a lil short so im tryin to make it work witht he mirical grow is it possible?? oh and i also have already fead it 1tbs and 1/2 is that to much already its been there for about 6 days and they look nice and green
if ur plants r just now sprouting,there will be no harm in transplanting to soil
u do NOT feed for the first couple weeks because the seedling lives off of the cotyledons
typically u can start feeding after ur 2nd set of true leaves appear
 

MeJuana

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Seeds are packing a lunch that is usually good enough for the first month under a low wattage light like a CFL.. Depending on how right you get things that could change dramatically but you will see them go from a nice green to a pale green color. Then the tops will start to just whiten up and if you don't give nutrients at this point, when the tops are white that is it the plant is growing itself to death without food you have a day or two til death. It isn't immediate first the edges go pale then the whole top of the plant then the bottom pales out too over about a week but if the top goes white you are in big trouble back the lights off and get them some food.

I think that stuff will work in veg but I would tell you go pickup a 10 dollar bottle of CNS17 grow if you could. I think in flower the plants requirements will be more demanding and you will be in big trouble.
 
alright so lets say i move to soil i have to put water daily for the plants correct..and im really tryin to make my hydroponics work cause i want to do the screen of green...
 
alright so if i use the cns17 hydro grow should i jus stop the miricalgro now.. and wait till i see the tips go light and start up the cns17??
 

moash

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alright so lets say i move to soil i have to put water daily for the plants correct..and im really tryin to make my hydroponics work cause i want to do the screen of green...
u only water when it needs it
u can still scrog in soil....scrog is a training method,not a type of water culture
 
that makes sense dont even noe why i said that lol i jus put alot of work in that hydro system i made it its ghetto but its workin out..an other thing how far should i have my 6oowatt light from the gurls??
 

moash

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for seedlings use cfl's or put that hid about 3 1/2ft or so
after established,u can move it about 18-24 in away
 

MeJuana

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600w 2 or 3 feet is about right but you determine by heat and if the light is aircooled.. How big are the plants then they are probably good size now huh? In hydro we assume you are running a good temperature or you will get the funk, but with 600w over 4 little plants you should watch it. 2 or 3 feet sounds right without a hood but I always had a hood with my 600w but my 1K light on seedlings when I started was 4 feet without a hood to keep the canopy temp around 75.. umm with a fan lol

What kind of hydro system? What are your room temps? How big are these little girls now that is a lot of light and I take it back those nutrients might fail you
 

MeJuana

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Yeah I agree you should go with CFL lights abut as close as possible without being too hot, carefully check how far it should be.. I think mine were 4 to 6 inches and don't forget a slight bit of air flow, not whipping them around but blowing them with a good breeze. You can youtube a lot of shit too bro
 
well im usin it without a hood and no mylar jus the light and a fan and i made my hydroponics its pretty ghetto but itys holdin up..and wassup with the nutrients the mirical gro aint gonna work??and the gurls are about an inch bro and yo for some reason the 2 lil leaves that are there jus startin to curl up a lil for some reson ona ll three...
 
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