PH levels KEEP RISING....how do i stop this?

jimmy311

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Guess it comes down to what u like and need..the tiny sprayer wernt big enuff for this Texan!! Lmfao
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Cost is higher i cant take them apart or adjust them Plus their a Chinese rip off to me..prolly 1¢ to make 10 and charge us a few bucks..lol
I'll give my money to the local Lowes .lol keep my money in the community and US.plus I hate the labor to build and clean compared to the 67¢ Lowes kind.. Lk I said itz all on what u like and need
 

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bdt1981

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Had a septic tank in my room 5' from my bed..lol
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Don't listen to everyone some ppl wanna see u or hope u do bad or fuck up..and fail.. But I painted em black. Tested with flashlight and sunlight to make sure no light goes thru..then I wrapped em with my custom bubble insulation. To keep em cool and the ir heat off the water then ran black hose.View attachment 3625897 (After 2 days of cleaning and scrubbing rinsing and repeating it 3x lol)
Now I hope I'll never see no algea again till i die..lol
i would cover the hydroton. light is getting in from there
 

jimmy311

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No need for all that PVC and 90s and 2$ three way 90s expensive..I made 3 buckets and said fuck that took that shit back..lmao got my money and got a lot of stuff lol
 

jimmy311

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Guess it comes down to what u like and need..the tiny sprayer wernt big enuff for this Texan!! Lmfao
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Cost is hPlus Chinese rip off to me..prolly 1¢ to make 1 and charge us a dollar..lol
I'll give my money to the local Lowes .lol keep my money in the community and US.
 

bdt1981

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I did jus now
They were dying yesterday drooping to the ground .standing tall now :) View attachment 3625911 I thought they were goners.. They were all lk this poor Lil one..View attachment 3625912
im going to go out on a limb and say either you put that one in to early, or you didnt have the water level high enough. i used the padding they sell for weight room floor for 20$ i got 9 24x24 squares of it and get a lot out of are those seeds or cuttings?
 

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Budley Doright

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I got 67¢ sprayer from Lowes..works better then the "hydroponic sprayers" the blue ones..cost lk $9 smh
So I got the old setup in one bucket and new setup in the rest..the Lowes sprayers are adjustable cone spray and can take a part to clean..but didn't have to..and I ran organics(guy said itl work great) idiot!
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But yea the blue sprayers were gunked up had to clean and run paper clip thru em..but not the 67¢ sprayers.. Lol
Hopefully now all black buckets and hoses and chiller with hydroguard my plants should grow fast now instead of a inch a month..LOL
I actually switched back to a basic flood and drain and retired the spray nozzles for this run. I seem to get better growth and once the roots got big it was hard to access the manifold, roots engulfed it lol. The water that floods the root chamber shoots out of a 3/8's nozzle straight up like a garden hose lol. Light I think is a huge factor, I had a slight leak around the lid and roots wouldn't grow out that side of the net pot till I fixed it. I'm moving the tray out to flower this week and will post some pics. As for the PH rising from air stones I have no proof, it could have been something else but I figure if their not needed then that's a bonus :).
 

since1991

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Its your airpump and airstone making your ph drift from target back to original tap water ph. Research it. Its true. Theres a reaction happening with dissolved oxygen and phos acid.
 

bdt1981

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I actually switched back to a basic flood and drain and retired the spray nozzles for this run. I seem to get better growth and once the roots got big it was hard to access the manifold, roots engulfed it lol. The water that floods the root chamber shoots out of a 3/8's nozzle straight up like a garden hose lol. Light I think is a huge factor, I had a slight leak around the lid and roots wouldn't grow out that side of the net pot till I fixed it. I'm moving the tray out to flower this week and will post some pics. As for the PH rising from air stones I have no proof, it could have been something else but I figure if their not needed then that's a bonus :).
I removed air stones and have found a stable ph that goes up.1 in 2 days i think the airstone thing is golden
 

since1991

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Airstones are over suggested in just about any setup besides of course dwc or rdwc which i think you have. Sticking airstones in flood and drain or drip system rez's is not necessary.
 

since1991

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Dump the aquarium pump and stones. Your creating max dissolved oxygen levels with the spray heads in the tubes.....provided your nutrient solution doesnt get too warm. Keep it cool as possible.
 

since1991

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The aeroflo by gh is poorly designed (slightly....its not that bad) by todays standards but back in the day it was the cadillac of systems. Many a cola has been grown in an aeroflo. If it didnt come with a pump and stone theres a good bet it doesnt need one.
 

Budley Doright

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Dump the aquarium pump and stones. Your creating max dissolved oxygen levels with the spray heads in the tubes.....provided your nutrient solution doesnt get too warm. Keep it cool as possible.
Until I chilled the Res and insulated the root chamber with my sprayers I was not doing that well, the key to any system is keeping the water chilled IMO. I was growing plants but it was always just on the verge of brown rotting roots.
 

since1991

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I have grow in homemade water culture systems in the past...alot. Home made raingutter NFT systems were all the rage in the early to mid nineties. Shitty do it yerself High Times articles were all we had lol. Remote outside the room with tubing reservoirs was the quick fix to warm solution temps. That was the big drawback to those types of hydroponic systems back then. Once solution warmed to grow room heat levels
It was a bitch. D.o. levels fell and pythium and other nasties turned root zone in to a slimy mess.
 

since1991

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I remember reading a Growers Edge magazine article back in the day (great frikin mag btw) that said pythium is in just about every room somewhere especially hydro systems but will only breakout if given the right conditions. Warm solution temps with no dissolved oxygen is ground zero for it.
 
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