Proof of the existence of an intelligent Creator and what His purpose of mankind is

woodds

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Yea Morgen put your money where your mouth is and try talking to some demonic beings, you'll hear what he hears and that will finally shut you up! :)

That's a psychological medical condition in desperate need of medication. Go talk to your doctor instead of demons.
I have no psychological medical condition and I am in no need for medicine for such issues.How can one even say this when they do not even know the person sitting behind this computer.No I do not talk to demons I was simply saying he should try it for a month or two and find his result.
 

morgentaler

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why is it that it has to be solved with scientific method..i would not know how to prove such happenings but my not knowing does not mean there is no scientific way to prove it.My only suggestion is that you try it out for yourself(by it I mean speaking to demonic beings and so forth.)
Because the scientific method is actually a very simple and structure application of common sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

There you go.


If you believe in demons, you're naive.

If you believe they talk to you, you're sick.

If you listen to them, you're sick and a danger to everyone around you.
 

morgentaler

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I often wonder how much evilness in the world is due to evil spirits.
Lots of unsolved cases and missing folks out there.
Murder cases and abductions only have decent case closure percentages if the culprit is known to the victim.

Stranger-on-stranger violence is much harder to solve. And with a knowledge of forensics you can get away with a lot more than CSI would have you believe.

There is a big battle going on between forensic scientists and forensic cops over what is and isn't scientifically valid. A lot of things you'll see used as evidence are accepted as such, but were just successful methods the police developed and spread in use. But only now are many of them being challenged for their scientific validity.

Even fingerprinting has come into question after the bombings in Spain brought up a print match with an innocent American 5000 miles away.
 

woodds

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Because the scientific method is actually a very simple and structure application of common sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

There you go.


If you believe in demons, you're naive.

If you believe they talk to you, you're sick.

If you listen to them, you're sick and a danger to everyone around you.
LOL..Okay so are you saying there can not be a way you can scientifically prove such phenomenons. There are many strange occurrences in this universe we can not yet explain. Such as disappearances from the Bermuda Triangle region.Why is it that science and religion can have a connection?
 

morgentaler

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LOL..Okay so are you saying there can not be a way you can scientifically prove such phenomenons. There are many strange occurrences in this universe we can not yet explain. Such as disappearances from the Bermuda Triangle region.Why is it that science and religion can have a connection?
Actually they have addressed the Bermuda triangle.

Based on the amount of shipping traffic there is no statistical anomaly in the number of ships lost in the area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bermuda_triangle


Science and religion do not connect because science looks at evidence and makes conclusions based on that evidence.

Religion makes conclusions, discards any contradictory evidence and takes whatever it can out of context to support the original conclusion, and calls it fact.

Religions usually claim their god made the universe. To claim something is not to provide evidence.

Many religions claim their god is the true god. They haven't even proven their god exists, and they're already arguing about which is better.


Just because you don't know what causes something to occur today doesn't mean you have to assign demons, god, and other supernatural crap to it.
Virtually all the technology you use today has a root in something that would have been considered demonic or supernatural in origin at some point.
 

Stoney McFried

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Can you imagine how much fun we might actually have if there really were supernatural creatures running about,like in a video game? We'd hear the encounter music cue up, and we'd draw our trusty sword or firearm...and once they died,we could loot them!:D
 

woodds

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Actually they have addressed the Bermuda triangle.

Based on the amount of shipping traffic there is no statistical anomaly in the number of ships lost in the area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bermuda_triangle


Science and religion do not connect because science looks at evidence and makes conclusions based on that evidence.

Religion makes conclusions, discards any contradictory evidence and takes whatever it can out of context to support the original conclusion, and calls it fact.

Religions usually claim their god made the universe. To claim something is not to provide evidence.

Many religions claim their god is the true god. They haven't even proven their god exists, and they're already arguing about which is better.


Just because you don't know what causes something to occur today doesn't mean you have to assign demons, god, and other supernatural crap to it.
Virtually all the technology you use today has a root in something that would have been considered demonic or supernatural in origin at some point.
Okay,,, while I think about a good response to that, I want to ask you what you believe as far as how we got here.
 

morgentaler

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Can you imagine how much fun we might actually have if there really were supernatural creatures running about,like in a video game? We'd hear the encounter music cue up, and we'd draw our trusty sword or firearm...and once they died,we could loot them!:D
As long as we're not the saps in the first two minutes of XFiles and Supernatural being torn limb from limb or tentacle raped. :spew:
 

morgentaler

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Okay,,, while I think about a good response to that, I want to ask you what you believe as far as how we got here.
Through a gradual process of evolution that began with single celled organisms.

How those organisms got here hasn't been determined yet.

Part of rejecting religion is realizing that you don't need to make up answers to questions that people don't have the answers to. That it's okay to not know how something happened, so you don't have to create intermediate fancies to bridge gaps. Leave the gaps until they can be filled with knowledge.
 

OregonMeds

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I have no psychological medical condition and I am in no need for medicine for such issues.How can one even say this when they do not even know the person sitting behind this computer.No I do not talk to demons I was simply saying he should try it for a month or two and find his result.
The result is complicated and mathematical but to summarize:

The amount of time wasted is x where x equals the amount of time wasted.
 

thablacksheep

Active Member
Greetings everyone. I would like to just submit a read that allowed me to use my imagination and life experiences to comprehend the literature consciously. I invite those who truly long for direction because of their hidden individual suffering, and not for debatable purposes, to consciously digest the substance of this read as well. Before reading this I do ask that you first sincerely understand that it is a strong possibility that the impressions received through readings or just our everyday encounters in life are mechanical due to the parenting that we received and other outside influences that completely direct who we are today. Our opinions and ideas are not of our own dominion but of the influences of others. Love is the Law...
http://gnosticteachings.org/courses/path-of-the-bodhisattva/02-gnostic-nativity-of-christ
 

OregonMeds

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Greetings everyone. I would like to just submit a read that allowed me to use my imagination and life experiences to comprehend the literature consciously. I invite those who truly long for direction because of their hidden individual suffering, and not for debatable purposes, to consciously digest the substance of this read as well. Before reading this I do ask that you first sincerely understand that it is a strong possibility that the impressions received through readings or just our everyday encounters in life are mechanical due to the parenting that we received and other outside influences that completely direct who we are today. Our opinions and ideas are not of our own dominion but of the influences of others. Love is the Law...
http://gnosticteachings.org/courses/path-of-the-bodhisattva/02-gnostic-nativity-of-christ

By all means don't go there looking to question anything... OK

I went anyway and it reads like this all the way through:

Jesus has a J in it in our language, and the letter J represents the letter T in Klingon, which means lord or "lord of the rings", and lord begins with the letter l which if translated back from english to greek to myan then back to greek and then into ancient aramaic shows jesus crist existed because the klingons support the christ in all of us because we can all be lord.

Get it? Need the Hippie decoder ring...
 

Big P

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holy shit, i think i just realized why god lets people die

without death nobody would need him anymore:weed:




so thats the reason jesus? thats why you allow us all to suffer an do nothing to stop it?


god damn it jesus!!! i was was gonna say oh jeez but:-|


 

thablacksheep

Active Member
By all means don't go there looking to question anything... OK

I went anyway and it reads like this all the way through:

Jesus has a J in it in our language, and the letter J represents the letter T in Klingon, which means lord or "lord of the rings", and lord begins with the letter l which if translated back from english to greek to myan then back to greek and then into ancient aramaic shows jesus crist existed because the klingons support the christ in all of us because we can all be lord.

Get it? Need the Hippie decoder ring...


Read the whole thing and then respond. The objective of sharing was for someone to read the whole thing or not read at all. it was an invite. I'm sure that if we have the time to smoke and explore the mind and the sensations of the being that we could surely read a good 5 minutes worth of material.
 

morgentaler

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Read the whole thing and then respond. The objective of sharing was for someone to read the whole thing or not read at all. it was an invite. I'm sure that if we have the time to smoke and explore the mind and the sensations of the being that we could surely read a good 5 minutes worth of material.
That's like handing someone dried cow dung and saying "Enjoy this delicious cookie."
Then when they say "This tastes like shit!" telling them that they must eat the whole cookie before voicing an opinion.
 

morgentaler

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By the way, I absolutely loved the nonsense about how the sun and seasons work.
And the gibberish about Santa Claus was just priceless.
Santa Clause is based on Sinter Klaas. Feel free to google that.

This is just another one of those publications that throws around a bunch of "high concept" babble which has no real informational value, throws a mix of falsehoods and misrepresentations together, and tries to format it so it sounds intellectual to the uneducated so they can feel like they've discovered some great secret to tell their friends when they manage to memorize one of the concepts.

Jesus has 5 letters. So does Fraud.
Christianity has 12 letters. So does Motherfucker.
YHWH has 4 letters. So does DICK.

I see the pattern!
 

rookie 420

Member
Still sticking with my theory that religion was designed strictly to help govern society. It was a great idea, look, they got us all thinking of what it might be. It's the power of human curiosity still driving people insane over the concept of a higher divinity.
 

morgentaler

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I'd agree with it being an effective method of control. One of the first shamans probably looked at the way everyone got jumpy when something moved in the darkness, and realized that he could manipulate them by lying about it.
As soon as man learned how to lie he invented religion.

A great idea? Not really. It's a very effective method of exploiting people and manipulating them to your own ends but it doesn't make them better people. Compare the rates of religious vs. atheist inmates for example.

If you want to get rich and have a knack for public speaking, you have two options to get rich quick. Self Help seminars or Sell Jesus seminars. Either one will bring the money rolling in.
 
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