SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

Discussion in 'Indoor Growing' started by Humanrob, Apr 2, 2016.

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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    here are a couple of cool pics,, i like how its two pieces, so a person can lift it apart at the end, and not spill water every where, and you can lift half the weight if needed
    also the floor looks stronger, and the wicks look a little larger, i guess they have to be since the res is deeper,,
    I wont need an over flow tray,, as filling can be Seen,, and you just stop when the water reaches the top, instead of waiting for it to over flow the grow box 2.png the grow box.jpg
     
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    meangreengrowinmachine

    meangreengrowinmachine Well-Known Member

    I know someone that used those for garden veggies last year and LOVED them
     
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    Humanrob

    Humanrob Well-Known Member

    As time goes on companies are building off of each other and improving on the designs -- this looks like an upgrade.
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    it has improvments that i really would like to have,,, I was going to modify my earthbox over the summer,, but i really dont want to drill holes in the thing,, I grow in my bedroom,, and the idea of flooding the carpet just doesnt fly well,, so these Sips, when done right have a very low risk of water damage,,
    i have not found how much soil they hold,, but it appears that its like the earthbox and probably will hold one solid bag of FFOF lets say
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    Salts would be so bad in a sip,,, IF the salts would stay in the res,, maybe,, but since the roots drink and eat from the res in a sip,, thats cool,, BUT the big problem you addressed,, is the wicking, the wicks will pull the salts up into the dirt, and then the build up will result in Tox issues,, lock outs, and worse,, and just as you said,, no way to flush the soil,, you could,, but what a big fat mess it would be to flush from the top of a sip and have it all come out the over flow,, top watering hurts sips,, over dampens the soil, stops the wicking action,, blah blah blah
    Organics in the res,, yes,, cal mag in the res yes,
    but if your soil is good,, you dont need added nutes,, most everyone is running water/cal mag only the whole ride,
    if a person used coco in the sip, or a dirt that is mostly inert,, then organic nutes would be required,, there is a good grower on here using octopots who puts nutes about half strength in his res, with fantastic results,,
     
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    Jaybodankly

    Jaybodankly Well-Known Member

    I do a 5gal bucket with a hole drilled about two inches up from the bottom. That two inches gets filled with perlite the rest gets soil mix.
     
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    meangreengrowinmachine

    meangreengrowinmachine Well-Known Member

    Like a hybrid hempy bucket... simple, low foot print.. do you use nutes or water only?
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    Yup hybrid hempy alright, pretty cool
     
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    meangreengrowinmachine

    meangreengrowinmachine Well-Known Member

    I tried hempys with nutes and all perlite in 3 gallons a while back grew some monsters but hated all the manual nutes and mixing and such and then flushing was such a pain in the ass... maybe I could recycle those hempys this way for moms...
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    OMG YES!!! i did a hempy grow, and I hated it, mixing the nutes, ph'ing the water, TDDS, then after filling the buckets , the overflow holes drained into a tray that I could not remove and so i used a turkey baster,, it took forever,, it as labor to me,, and I hate work hahaha,, never again for me,, and when i found the SIP guys, it was a perfect fit,,
     
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    meangreengrowinmachine

    meangreengrowinmachine Well-Known Member

    Dude.. I did the EXACT same ... still have the turkey baster and I even bought an upgraded manual syphon lol ... I can see why we both gravitated to SIPs! DOWN WITH MANUAL WATERING!
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    there was a day,, during the hempy grow,, I was Grumbling my ass off,, and my wife is stiting over on the bed,, and i can hear her laughing,, while she drank her coffee, and i like a grouch made some comment, and she looks up and says " I bet you are really missing the dirt about now",,, that was it, i pulled the plants out of the hempys, ( they were small), and I planted them into 3 gallon containers and life was Peaceful from them on,, and when I found the sips, it was like an AH HA moment,, having understood how a hempy works, it was the growth of hempy but without all the hassel,
     
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    PDX Joe

    PDX Joe Well-Known Member

    I've been rocking SIPS for years. I started with Earthtainers that I built, and then adapted the concept for other stuff. Here's my veggie garden and hops.
     

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    PDX Joe

    PDX Joe Well-Known Member

    Then I built this SIPS with a half whiskey barrel and barrel liner for my fig tree.
     

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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    i just showed each of your pictures to my wife,, she is hounding me for some raised flower beds,, I think i just made a sale!!!,, thats so much more appealing with the wood around the tubs,, it takse away the ugly of storage tubs in the yard, and brought it to the cool zone,, very nice
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    @Humanrob ROB build one of these for your outdoor sips this summer!!
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    The honey do list for spring just got started, lol
     
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    PDX Joe

    PDX Joe Well-Known Member

    I couldn't stop, so the next design was a hybrid fabric pot/ root pruning system with SIPS. I cut a 50 gallon water drum in half, drilled holes and used shade cloth to line the sides. I used these for squash and potatoes.
     

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    PDX Joe

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    Yeah, the wood corral looks good. It also keeps the pots cool and keeps the plastic from degrading in the sun.
     
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    PDX Joe

    PDX Joe Well-Known Member

    Oh and of course the next logical step for me was to grow cannabis in slightly smaller versions. I fed them with the same dry fertilizer I use for my veggies and resulted in these beasts. They were over eight feet tall when I chopped them.
     

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