SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

Humanrob

Humanrob

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Tim Fox said:
quality photos, Awesome examples of how to do it in Sips,, Hey @Humanrob how tall are your 10 gallon sips floor to top of fabric,, thanks
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The short answer: 17" from the floor to the soil line.
Long answer: The 10 gallon tote is 8.5" tall at the edge, but recessed in the middle and sagging under the weight of the soil (I'll reinforce it before I use this one again). The "#7" Redi Root fabric pot is 11" tall, but I don't have it filled to the top. All that explains the "short answer".

My scrog is at about 28", and the tent is 6' tall. Hopefully this strain doesn't stretch too much, I'm using hotter lights on this run so they need more room.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Evil-Mobo said:
The five gallon sips get it done too I have come up with an idea to test on th next one I build that will allow me to have more water in my res but keep with the same five gallon buckets and their foot print. We will see what happens.

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I tried something like this but mine were a disaster. I'm interested to see what you do with them.
 
Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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ttystikk said:
I tried something like this but mine were a disaster. I'm interested to see what you do with them.
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This current setup has never failed me thus far. My thoughts is to take a third bucket and clear cut the bottom out of it so it becomes a spacer. In theory then I would add to my res the amount of a second setup so should go from 1.5 gallons to three. I'm going to try it with the nest one I build and if it works the current buckets will be easy to mod between plants. Everything it seems is a work in progress growing this plant lol. I am loving the continual learning process.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Evil-Mobo said:
This current setup has never failed me thus far. My thoughts is to take a third bucket and clear cut the bottom out of it so it becomes a spacer. In theory then I would add to my res the amount of a second setup so should go from 1.5 gallons to three. I'm going to try it with the nest one I build and if it works the current buckets will be easy to mod between plants. Everything it seems is a work in progress growing this plant lol. I am loving the continual learning process.
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My buckets sat in water up to 6" deep and drowned my plants.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Tim Fox said:
yes, but does it equal out in weight? thats what i really want to know,, i dont need fat cola's,, dont plan to enter them in the state fair,,,oh, here in Oregon, MJ plants are now part of the state fair judging,, can you believe it
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Yes, I can believe it, they started doing that a year or two ago.

The suckers underneath don't get light. Stripping them send so to the parts that do. Result is substantially more weight at higher quality. Bonus; better airflow underneath and less chance of powdery mildew, root, etc.
 
Humanrob

Humanrob

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@Evil-Mobo -- interesting design, the "footprint" could allow for more plants in the space. My issues has been vertical space limitations. I built a couple of 5 gallon fabric pots sitting on top of 3 gallon buckets, but they turned out to be 22" tall and so I've never actually used them. The ones I'm doing now could be even shorter if I had gone with one 10 gallon bin stacked on another. Sad to say the only reason I didn't was I was too lazy, I would have had to put together water level indicators, which require more parts and work. With my current design I have one opening that I check the water level and fill it from, and its super simple. The stacked design would shave off another 2" of height (and have more soil). Maybe next time.
 
Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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Humanrob said:
@Evil-Mobo -- interesting design, the "footprint" could allow for more plants in the space. My issues has been vertical space limitations. I built a couple of 5 gallon fabric pots sitting on top of 3 gallon buckets, but they turned out to be 22" tall and so I've never actually used them. The ones I'm doing now could be even shorter if I had gone with one 10 gallon bin stacked on another. Sad to say the only reason I didn't was I was too lazy, I would have had to put together water level indicators, which require more parts and work. With my current design I have one opening that I check the water level and fill it from, and its super simple. The stacked design would shave off another 2" of height (and have more soil). Maybe next time.
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I'm using my dwc buckets as the res which is great because they have a sight tube. I zip tie where the water level should be calculating for the inch of space and from that point on it's just water down the fill tube until it reaches the zip tie but I do not have overflow all over the floors of the tents. And yes having more plants is a big reason I'd like to stick with the footprint I have per unit right now, it's also easy to move things around like this which I frequently need to when running a perpetual. I'm not saying my way is the way just saying this is what fits my needs and sharing the info in case it might benefit someone else. My only complaint is the low res capacity which I addressed in a previous post what I'm going to try to remedy that and I really can't see why it would not work. If it does I could get a solid four days between having to water if needed be which with my health issues can happen from time to time.

Had I been in hydro this last run I would have lost it. But because of the sips I didn't :)
 
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Tim Fox

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Evil-Mobo said:
Yes I would say that was most definitely your issue. When you try it again as I mentioned with the air gap you will see the magic happen :)
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you know,, there is so much to open our eyes too,, seems i have learned more in my 50's than when i thought i knew it all at 19,, problem is i cant remember like i once did,, but seems the air gap is the premier claus,,
 
Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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Tim Fox said:
you know,, there is so much to open our eyes too,, seems i have learned more in my 50's than when i thought i knew it all at 19,, problem is i cant remember like i once did,, but seems the air gap is the premier claus,,
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Everyday I grow this plant I learn something new. It's actually one of the things that has kept my interest in this hobby because things are constantly evolving in our grows as we learn. I am always open minded to talking with others about growing as exp, I have found, to be one of the best teachers around.

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Tim Fox

Tim Fox

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ttystikk said:
True story.

That's why I'm taking another approach this time.
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wow,, sips are like hydro, even many of us are debating to even put oxygen stones in them,, i dont,, i think hyroot and some guy stopped, i never did,, based on my summer grows, it is insane the growth rate ,, it matches what i used to get with hydro,, but none of the work,, well everyone has said it,, wears on me
 
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