Humanrob
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Nice looking veggies.
I've got three SIPs going outside this year, two have tomatoes, one has a Dark Devil Auto. Are you in a state where you can grow cannabis outdoors?
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I've got three SIPs going outside this year, two have tomatoes, one has a Dark Devil Auto. Are you in a state where you can grow cannabis outdoors?
Evil-Mobo
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Unfortunately not yet. Vote was passed but delays getting things into action. If not I'd have a hoop house full of sips outside lol
Humanrob
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I look forward to seeing how those go when you get there.
Last year I tried various fabric pots, a couple of SIPs, and some in the ground. In the end, for me, nothing is better than growing in the ground. The downside is they can get huge, but that can be dealt with by starting later in the season. I am trying an auto in a SIP outside this year, I'm thinking its little life won't be long enough to be stunted by being in a pot.
Evil-Mobo
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My first Auto in a SIP is flowering right now she is well on her way and much larger than I expected her to be at this point especially for a supposed "indica dom hybrid" lol.........I look forward to seeing how those go when you get there.
Last year I tried various fabric pots, a couple of SIPs, and some in the ground. In the end, for me, nothing is better than growing in the ground. The downside is they can get huge, but that can be dealt with by starting later in the season. I am trying an auto in a SIP outside this year, I'm thinking its little life won't be long enough to be stunted by being in a pot.
This was two days ago.......
PDX Joe
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How long was the auto grow from start to finish?
Evil-Mobo
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That one pictured is not done yet the last three were all under 60 days with one at 53 days these days being counted from the time they pop the dirt. I stopped counting the days on my autos now I just wait til they look close and then start checking trichs
PDX Joe
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Wow, pretty quick straight from seed. You basically knock off all your veg time.
Oh, I saw your post on Autopot and thought I'd respond here. The main reason I started using the system was for their gravity fed fill valve. I thought about using one of my DIY Earthtainers in my closet, but the closet isn't very tall. I wanted something that didn't take up a lot of space vertically, but would still have a large water capacity and still perform like a SIPs. The remote reservoir holds up to 12 gallons. I can leave my 3x3 grow for two weeks if I need to... not that I want to.
Really it allows me to focus on pruning and canopy maintenance and more time staring at the plants and no time mixing nutes.However, the way the Autopot maker says for growers to use it is more like a hempy bucket and add liquid nutrients to the res. Well, I gave it a try using Canna Coco, Jacks 321 and 2" of perlite in the bottom of the pot. I also started with the 4 gallon pots. It started great and then all went to shit. I chased my tail on a bunch of issues. There was always a deficiency and then eventually the salt built up too high in the coco and the plants basically died. So, I thought I could either try it again the same way or I could simply grow indoors the way I've been growing outdoors for years. In order to do that I needed to convert the Autopot to a SIPs. That's the mod. you'll see further back in the thread. In order to do a SIPs and feed with organic top dressed nutrients and plain water I needed to step the pot size up to the 6.6 gallon Autopot. I sacrificed some height in the closet, but it was worth it. In a perfect world I'd like the pots to hold a bit more soil. I may eventually build my own pot and use the Autopot fill valves and remote reservoir. FYI you can get the valves and reservoir separately if someone wants to experiment.
Tim Fox
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YUP,,
plain water is so nice, mixing nutes and ph'ing water is for the birds
Humanrob
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Wow... beautiful garden! Is your entire veggie garden in SIPs? Have you grown all of these plants in SIPs before? I'm surprised about the potatoes, but I've never tried to even container grow those, let alone SIP grow them. I look forward to hearing how it all goes.
PDX Joe
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Thanks. Everything is SIPs. Yes, I've grown all these plants in SIPs before. Cukes do awesome in them. I've grown the potatoes for three years and I get about 25lbs of potatoes out of each barrel. But, you have to fertilize them correctly. I'm trying to get the yield up this year with the potatoes. But, 25 lbs isn't bad.Wow... beautiful garden! Is your entire veggie garden in SIPs? Have you grown all of these plants in SIPs before? I'm surprised about the potatoes, but I've never tried to even container grow those, let alone SIP grow them. I look forward to hearing how it all goes.
Evil-Mobo
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I don't brother but I cannot say it does or does not work because I have no exp with it. Too add trichs I just throw a bluer light in at the end with my HID (Blue MH) and now with the COB's going to test the same theory soon tossing 6500K in but in another grow not right now.
ttystikk
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I don't recommend it. I've never seen anything good come from it. Bad things I've seen include powdery mildew and mold.
sandhill larry
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Hey guys. I've been skimming the posts, trying to catch up.
I grow my tomatoes in water. Not a SIP, but a redneck raingutter grow system. I think it would work with weed too. I try to keep the water 3" inches deep at all times. {I've got my drain running into the pepper pit, so I keep the water turned on just enough to keep a little overflow going} And the part that goes in water should have a higher % of good potting soil than the soil mix in general. {I use a lot of manure compost, and it can sour if too far down in the water} The soil has enough food for a season, but I do add teas to it once in a while. This is my first year growing in buckets. I started out in grow bags two years ago, then added 3 gallon plastic pots last year. They are doing much better this year. But the hog panel is the biggest improvement. I used string before, and by the end of the season it was a mess.
I grow my tomatoes in water. Not a SIP, but a redneck raingutter grow system. I think it would work with weed too. I try to keep the water 3" inches deep at all times. {I've got my drain running into the pepper pit, so I keep the water turned on just enough to keep a little overflow going} And the part that goes in water should have a higher % of good potting soil than the soil mix in general. {I use a lot of manure compost, and it can sour if too far down in the water} The soil has enough food for a season, but I do add teas to it once in a while. This is my first year growing in buckets. I started out in grow bags two years ago, then added 3 gallon plastic pots last year. They are doing much better this year. But the hog panel is the biggest improvement. I used string before, and by the end of the season it was a mess.
Evil-Mobo
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That is just fantastic and you could grow some monster MJ plants in the same setup wow.
sandhill larry
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But the real Raingutter grow system is a true SIP. It has a 3" net cup sunk down into the water. The buckets sits on top of the gutter.