Something People Ought to Know

Discussion in 'Organics' started by mccumcumber, Jan 9, 2012.

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    sadj

    sadj Active Member

    why no potatoes? and personal i never use banana peels as i have been told the skin has arsnic in it. i only use banana in my compost for flowers.
     
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    Greensome

    Greensome Member

    Forgive me if this was covered, but I think it's pointless to talk about organics without talking about myocorrhizae. If you're using organic, non-mineral based nutes, I can't see trying to grow without myocorrhizae.
     
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    Herb Man

    Herb Man Active Member

    Very nice post/thread.

    Could you expand on this?
     
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    lightcollection2013

    lightcollection2013 New Member

    Hi Im going to be using the General Organic line with The House of gardens Root excellerent and liquid Karma.

    12 PLANTS LEGAL LIMIT

    For soilless I'm thinking of going with PRO-MIX BX BIOFUNGICIDE+MYCORRHIZAE..

    Im wondering if this sound fine for my plants or if anyone has any recommendations.

    I wanna do a 10 week veg cycle (I want big Plants.
    WATER, FEED, WATER going to WATER, FEED, FEED

    SOLO CUPS FOR 2 WEEKS FLORESENT LIGHTING(I got plants in solo cups)

    1 GALLON FOR 3WEEKS UNDER A 400 WATT MHPRO-MIX BX BIOFUNGICIDE¬ô+MYCORRHIZAE

    BEFORE GOING INTO A 7 GALLON FOR 5 WEEKS UNDER (2) 1000 watt mh.
    I wanna line the bottom 2 inches of the the pots with something maybe sterile rocks for aeration open to recommendations.
     
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    Becorath

    Becorath Well-Known Member

    The original post mentioned bacteria and fungi. The fungi is the myco you speak of. Over time it will establish itself, but adding it will speed up the colonizatin process.
     
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    *Vegeta

    *Vegeta New Member

    Very good info !
     
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    SpicySativa

    SpicySativa Well-Known Member

    Kindof ^. The fungi that break down organic matter in a compost heap or a tub of "cooking" soil are not mycorrhizal. Helpful, yes. But very different from actual "myco" fungi, which won't even start growing unless they are in contact with a live plant root (they live off exudatesf produced by the plant).
     
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    Becorath

    Becorath Well-Known Member

    That is correct, but I believe the OP was referring to the fungi living in the soil around the plants' roots.



    • Fungi and Bacteria are the two primary "workers" for providing nutrition to your plant. Fungi, though much smaller than bacteria individually, form long sort of "tunnels" from your plant's rhizosphere to nutrition found in nearby soil. Fungi are special in that they can break down "harder" materials and bring nutrition through their tunneling systems. They then either keep the nutrients until they die and then exude the nutrition into back into the soil in a plant or bacterial edible form. As said before, fungi break down hard materials, like bones, phosphorous, copper, zinc, etc. As you can probably now tell, fungi are very important. It is also important to note that the best defense against harmful fungi is beneficial fungi. Beneficial fungi out compete harmful fungi every time.​




     
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    dannyboy602

    dannyboy602 Well-Known Member

    great source of soil biology here. it only took me a couple years to find and only 4 billion years to create. :)
     
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    RAWise

    RAWise Member

    Why would you not use your compost after all that is the purpose of having the pile. Mother nature is a genius when it comes to gardening, let her do her thing she will not fail. My opinion is keep it simple, no need to go all "Lab Tech".

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    Organic Toker

    Organic Toker Active Member

    Hats Off to Cucumber :clap:

    It is really hard to make people aware and to explain how microbes work to improve plant health. I have been trying to create awareness about organic farming and I will surely be following the simplicity you used in this beautiful post.

    You should keep expanding horizons too, various updates in organic growing are there. I would love to contribute too.

    +Rep for the post.

    Happy New Year to you!! Guys like you make the stay in RIU worthwhile.


    Peace and Love,

    Toker.
     
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    Keif Cheif

    Keif Cheif Member

    I'm not sure why everyone is out there looking for the best solutions for building their soil, and looking for the best combination of organic amendments. Why wouldn't you want to take the work out of it and go with a pre-mixed bag that comes from a quality company. Not the Foxfarm, Botanicare blends, etc., but go for a much higher quality mix. As long as you start with a good mix with good drainage, even if you dont have food into it already, this is all you need to start with.

    Then you need a fully enzymatically digested organic nutrient so that it is IMMEDIATELY available to the plants. The line that myself and my crew have been using for years has been the Nectar for the Gods. I have been getting consistent results that rival the output of synthetics. We were turned onto this stuff by the owner of the company, and now we by it from the Monster Gardens store in northern California. Highly recommend this line over any other organics that I have come across

    Best quality out of anything on the market, fully broken down and made with organic chelates.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BjbW2KPbTw
     
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    foreverflyhi

    foreverflyhi Well-Known Member

    ^^^ maybe best quality on the capitalist market. For sure not the best quality mother earth has to offer
     
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    Thc247

    Thc247 Well-Known Member

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    Organix420

    Organix420 Member

    Thanks Cucumber - well said.
     
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    Chappie

    Chappie New Member

    Same reason I would rather cook a curry from scratch than buy even the best jarred or canned stuff. There is no contest. There are some pretty good bagged products out there (like Bu's Blend, Oly Fish Compost, etc) but these are still just ingredients for a supreme soil.

    If you like buying something and rolling with it, go for it.

    But those who truly educate themselves to learn to prepare their own, ideally from local materials, will have a much more solid product in every regard. Creating a medium is empowering in a way that purchasing a solution cannot touch. The satisfaction of knowing exactly what every single ingredient in the soil that produced your herb is priceless.

    Next time you share with a friend and they say "you grew this??" you can say "well, I made the soil, the plant kindof grew itself".
     
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    snowboarder396

    snowboarder396 Well-Known Member

    Good stuff bud, points out a lot of good information for those just getting into organics. Also if rec. Teaming with microbes for those wanting to learn more about it. Very helpful. Im currently back in school for viticulture and enokogt (winemaking) and I've been taking classes like horticulture, soil science etc. That have help further my knowledge of plants and what they need. Keep up the good information
     
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    keysareme

    keysareme Well-Known Member

    What are you thoughts on Dr. Earths Soils? (A friend introduced them to me, I wanted to ask what you felt)
     
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    High_Haze

    High_Haze Active Member

    Agreed I always use lady bugs with great results

    Neem oil is cool but it clogs the pores on the plant and the girls dont like it.
     
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    This Hidden Creature

    This Hidden Creature Well-Known Member

    Teaming with microbes has turned to be my new organic bible, they cover the whole process.
    thank you all for sharing such knowledge.
     
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