STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

dannyboy602

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Well this has been a good read. Both pro and con and I think I might have learned something positive. I'm glad there was a debate. I need to know the truth. I will continue to "sit on the fence" until my LED grow is complete. At the same time I'm ordering seeds for my 2x1000 watters area. And I wanna do more research on Autos...
 

fssalaska

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LEDs are shit ! will try again in 10 years. My experience with them > https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/405548-test-grow-mh-sunshine-90w.html#post5257265
Don't get me wrong you can grow with them but I just grow A+++ shit I don't have time for shit weed, To hard to move it.

I know the LEDer's are going to say " but but but " but my ass, I know what I saw with my own eyes.

Not that hard to argue with these results

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv4b47pRMhA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7Weu61rrBk&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3XH-_2GhaM&feature=related
 

Brianjox

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My 2 Bits !!!Agreed. TODAY Led can not compete ,down the road led will be the norm. A 1000w sodium light will product more quality and quanity then LED. Not even close in a 6 month test, that I did on equal conditions.
Yes electricity is more but you get more. The future may not be LED for growing as I've seen the new laser lights operate, made just for growing application. Was impressive.
Thanks from Vernon BC email for more.
 

Jack Harer

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LEDs are shit ! will try again in 10 years. My experience with them > https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/405548-test-grow-mh-sunshine-90w.html#post5257265
Don't get me wrong you can grow with them but I just grow A+++ shit I don't have time for shit weed, To hard to move it.

I know the LEDer's are going to say " but but but " but my ass, I know what I saw with my own eyes.

Not that hard to argue with these results

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv4b47pRMhA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7Weu61rrBk&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3XH-_2GhaM&feature=related

Son, you AIN'T the only one out there growing A+++ weed, my friend. So your being on your high horse and condescending tone isn't necessary here. I am also looking at LEDs, and I hear both sides. I look at what the nay sayers used as equipment as a major determinant. The high cost of these quality units preclude the average user, and has bred a market for cheap knock offs. I'm finding that most (NOT all) of the naysayers were also price shoppers. THe numbers and specs of truly high quality LED units are impressive. The cost factor still gives me tha jitters, but I believe that they can and do compete very well with HID lights, and the running costs (considering all factors, less need for AC, actual elect. usage etc.) puts them ahead of the game. I hear all sorts of Name brands being bandied about, but there are so many others out there I do NOT hear mentioned. take a look here:

http://www.blackdogled.com/products/bd1300
 

puffenuff

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My leds rock. My grows are top shelf quality. I'm getting more grams per dollar spent on power than with my hps grows. I didn't have to buy extra equipment. I don't have to buy replacement bulbs every 4 months anymore. I don't have to run my a/c all the time anymore. I don't have to worry about risk of fire or shattered bulbs. I am able to target specific wavelengths to achieve desirable effects. I am a proud led grower.
 

Jack Harer

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We have a new paradigm...........Gram per Dollar!! I like it alot!!! It's every bit as useful as gram per watt!! +Rep!!
 

Clonex

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different strategies work for different ppl in different enviorments with different strains! phew!!! there i covered it :-)
 
I just don't think the technology is there yet. Of all the lights they are the one area that has the biggest opportunity for innovation though, which is exciting. I'm glad there are growers out there backing LEDs without you guys they won't get better. Shit in 5 years everyone on here may be using LEDs, who knows.
 

hoss12781

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smurfberry autoflower led start to finish. Just as much weight as hps auto grows I've done DSC00899.jpgDSC00904.jpgDSC00900.jpgDSC00903.jpgDSC00901.jpgDSC00902.jpgDSC00898.jpgand the quality is amazing. Nugs in the mason jar lid are Sweet Caramel which also turned out great and netted 45g dried. Some leds are shitty, some are not. The tiny plant was a MI-5, the long nugs hanging are the smurfberry.
 

Clonex

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Obviously led's can be very close to autogrows ?? as there short? but in reality a large scale grower will not waste time with led's ?? simply not enough coverage ??? it really is not rocket science is it ?? why do ppl get so uppity about lights for god sakes ? Obviously your growing in a small area with your small plants ?? why am i the only person who can see this ???? SOMEONE show me an LED grow thats not in a box or closet ?
 

Clonex

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smurfberry autoflower led start to finish. Just as much weight as hps auto grows I've done View attachment 1800535View attachment 1800537View attachment 1800540View attachment 1800544View attachment 1800545View attachment 1800547View attachment 1800548and the quality is amazing. Nugs in the mason jar lid are Sweet Caramel which also turned out great and netted 45g dried. Some leds are shitty, some are not. The tiny plant was a MI-5, the long nugs hanging are the smurfberry.
is that a bean sprout in pic 2 ?
 

hoss12781

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its scissor hash from cutting down the smurfberry this morning. Check pro source led's website. They sponsor a commercial grow in cali. Video on their site, looks like a pretty legit commercial application. They were one of the companies I was considering purchasing from when I started researching leds.
 

Clonex

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its scissor hash from cutting down the smurfberry this morning. Check pro source led's website. They sponsor a commercial grow in cali. Video on their site, looks like a pretty legit commercial application. They were one of the companies I was considering purchasing from when I started researching leds.
Yeah ok i will have a look , please beware though , these sites are full of ppl being paid to run them and post journals , Hydroponics is a vast market, spec with the current energy costs they have an Angle to work with , i have tried both - i wont be changing from hid this decade thats for sure ...
 

Clonex

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And here's the thing - i would love to use LED's , no Ballasts , less heat , no red hot bulbs , less wiring , cheaper to run , so there must be an other reason right ? i think we all no what this is ;-)
 

hoss12781

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to each his own brother, just wanted to share what I've seen from researching leds and using them as a former hid/cfl user.
 
I gotta disagree with you my friend....I can't believe the growth with my LEDs!!!

Check out my grandpa's medical grow--he's never grown before and is getting a decent yield off of 138watts of Mikey's Grow Lights. I would agree with you, some LEDs are not very good...but you can't say ALL until you have tried them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfHz8ivBO14
 

fssalaska

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Son, you AIN'T the only one out there growing A+++ weed, my friend. So your being on your high horse and condescending tone isn't necessary here. I am also looking at LEDs, and I hear both sides. I look at what the nay sayers used as equipment as a major determinant. The high cost of these quality units preclude the average user, and has bred a market for cheap knock offs. I'm finding that most (NOT all) of the naysayers were also price shoppers. THe numbers and specs of truly high quality LED units are impressive. The cost factor still gives me tha jitters, but I believe that they can and do compete very well with HID lights, and the running costs (considering all factors, less need for AC, actual elect. usage etc.) puts them ahead of the game. I hear all sorts of Name brands being bandied about, but there are so many others out there I do NOT hear mentioned. take a look here:

http://www.blackdogled.com/products/bd1300
Yes my horse is high also !!! My tone? condescending, lmao I don't think so I'm just stating a fact of what I have seen in my personal experience as in I bought some led light and feel I got butt raped and sick of reading post about people telling how there shit yes shit 90 watt led lights rewrote the how twos of weed growing.
Fined a new way to talk shit.
 

skunkd0c

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HIDs grow excellent weed for a cheap setup, if something is not broken why try to fix it ?

although if i were a hipster hid's would be way to mainstream for me, i would have to choose LED'S :)
 
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