STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

Jack Harer

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fssalaska,
Once you've ran the gamut and used every unit out there and STILL say that LEDS suck, then MAYBE I'd listen to ya. Perhaps you should have done some research on each and every unit out there, and sought out some peeps growing with them for their input and THEN made a decision to buy, you MIGHT have a different opinion, or at the very least a more open mind. It's like anything else, one or two bad units that don't meet your expectations does not mean that all units are junk. I'm saying this, and I'm still dubious myself!!! But I aint gonna come out bashing unless I had absolute first hand knowledge that ALL units were bad. I can't afford that kind of research, so I'll rely more on others who have used them in their own personal gardens to guide me.
 

Clonex

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fssalaska,
Once you've ran the gamut and used every unit out there and STILL say that LEDS suck, then MAYBE I'd listen to ya. Perhaps you should have done some research on each and every unit out there, and sought out some peeps growing with them for their input and THEN made a decision to buy, you MIGHT have a different opinion, or at the very least a more open mind. It's like anything else, one or two bad units that don't meet your expectations does not mean that all units are junk. I'm saying this, and I'm still dubious myself!!! But I aint gonna come out bashing unless I had absolute first hand knowledge that ALL units were bad. I can't afford that kind of research, so I'll rely more on others who have used them in their own personal gardens to guide me.
I think he is saying even the best panels do not match HID , i think lol , his words were stronger:-)
 

Clonex

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HIDs grow excellent weed for a cheap setup, if something is not broken why try to fix it ?

although if i were a hipster hid's would be way to mainstream for me, i would have to choose LED'S :)
Because science and technology moves on ? there not broken but cost alot to run ? your reason is a bit silly.
 

fssalaska

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fssalaska,
Once you've ran the gamut and used every unit out there and STILL say that LEDS suck, then MAYBE I'd listen to ya. Perhaps you should have done some research on each and every unit out there, and sought out some peeps growing with them for their input and THEN made a decision to buy, you MIGHT have a different opinion, or at the very least a more open mind. It's like anything else, one or two bad units that don't meet your expectations does not mean that all units are junk. I'm saying this, and I'm still dubious myself!!! But I aint gonna come out bashing unless I had absolute first hand knowledge that ALL units were bad. I can't afford that kind of research, so I'll rely more on others who have used them in their own personal gardens to guide me.
I have used them : https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/405548-test-grow-mh-sunshine-90w.html#post5257265 and still think bad of them.
 

fssalaska

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This is beating a dead horse, Think what you will I know what I did ! I spent alot of money on shit that did not work. (1) LEDs will grow the hell out of plants, 4 sure but they suck compared to MH for veg and they will flower your plants but know where as good as a HPS. (2) They lie like hell on the coverage of LED lights, so when you have to run 4 240 watt blackstar led lights @ 150 watts each < yah I know the numbers don't add up 240 watt is what they call it 150 watt is what it is " got me " but anyways if your running 4 to cover the same space as a 400 watt MH or HPS wheres the savings ? plus lower yields. (3) Think what makes you happy ! No sweat off my balls. Happy growing
 

SmokesLikeBob

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I have yet to see massive donkey dicks grown from LED's...So my vote goes to HID's...
But if the price of LED's were to drop substantially, they'll be movin' much higher on my list.
 

Jack Harer

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Thats what I'm waiting to see myself. I grow big assed lolli-pops. If they can do that, I'm in. At least to test the water anyway.
 

sen.c

Active Member
I think ProSource is where I am going to for L.E.D. lights. I talked with them about six months ago and wanted to buy one of their lights and they told me that was fine but I should wait and they had some new technology coming out in a few months and it would be leaps ahead of the current model. I thought that was pretty cool of them to let me know and not just sell me one without telling me of the new model about to be released just to make a sell.
 

Corbat420

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I Vote Fail On the Current LEDs. <3
Though have high hopes for them in the near future.
i dont realy have any hope left for LED's. you think since 1972 they would have figured SOMETHING out with those damn things....

my hopes are in Plasma Lighting. i have heard some decent things about plasma lights.....

P.S. my 1000 MH grows my Big Bid plants an average of 2-3 inches PER DAY. screw "growth per week" i can pull a foot in a good week.......
 

sen.c

Active Member
All I know is NASA uses L.E.D. technology in the space station to grow all their plants and if NASA is working with it than there has to be something there, I think the technology is there with a select few who are really trying to forward the technology rather than just have a bunch of chinese kids build a bunch to capatilize on the craze.
 

Clonex

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All I know is NASA uses L.E.D. technology in the space station to grow all their plants and if NASA is working with it than there has to be something there, I think the technology is there with a select few who are really trying to forward the technology rather than just have a bunch of chinese kids build a bunch to capatilize on the craze.
It seems to me that led's are an obvious second choice and its not just in the world of green , if you look at car manufactuers they still cant use led's for the main headlight yet as not bright enough to pass safety standards , but there allowed for sidelighting and daytime lights , i think that speaks volumes.........
 

oceangreen

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LEDs are the only way to go. watt vs watt, blow hid out of the water. Lighter, smaller, less heat

enough said
 
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