taxed by the mile?

max420thc

Well-Known Member
you stupid ass liberals. THEY HAVE A PLAN FOR YOUR DUMB ASS.they are going to attach a GPS to your car and tax you by the fucking mile...i cant wait till they put a scale at the end of the grocery store counter and tax you fat fucks by the pound.that will bankrupt all you lazy worthless non working mcdonalds eating lard ass liberals.

By-the-mile road tax could replace by-the-gallon federal fuel tax

By STEVE EVERLY

The Kansas City Star


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The year is 2020 and the gasoline tax is history. In its place you get a monthly tax bill based on each mile you drove — tracked by a Global Positioning System device in your car and uploaded to a billing center.
What once was science fiction is being field-tested by the University of Iowa to iron out the wrinkles should a by-the-mile road tax ever be enacted.
Besides the technological advances making such a tax possible, the idea is getting a hard push from a growing number of transportation experts and officials. That is because the traditional by-the-gallon fuel tax, struggling to keep up with road building and maintenance demands, could fall even farther behind as vehicles’ gas mileage rises and more alternative-fuel vehicles come on line.
The idea of shifting to a by-the-mile tax has been discussed for years, but it now appears to be getting more serious attention. A federal commission, after a two-year study, concluded earlier this year that the road tax was the “best path forward” to keep revenues flowing to highway and transportation projects, and could be an important new tool to help manage traffic and relieve congestion.
The decision by the 15-member National Surface Transportation Infrastructure Financing Commission was unanimous, which surprised Robert Atkinson, the group’s chairman. But he said it became clear as the commission’s work progressed that a road tax on miles traveled was the best option.
“If you’re committed to the system being improved then it was a no-brainer,” he said.
The commission pegged 2020 as the year for the federal fuel tax, currently 18.5 cents a gallon, to be phased out and replaced by a road tax. One estimate of a road tax that would cover the current federal and state fuel taxes is 1 to 2 cents per mile for cars and light trucks.
The commission said work needed to start soon to prepare for a road tax. But more work has already been done than most people probably realize.
Oregon did a field test in 2007, concluding it was possible to collect a road tax. The University of Iowa’s Public Policy Center — with support from the Federal Highway Administration and 15 states, including Kansas and Missouri — began work a decade ago on how a road tax could be deployed.
Now the University of Iowa, with the help of a $16 million federal grant, is beginning the field test that will eventually include 2,700 vehicles in six states. The vehicles equipped with computers and GPS devices will keep track of the miles traveled and send the data through wireless technology to a billing center that will compute “simulated” tax bills.
“There is a lot of work nationally going on that is beneath the surface,” said Pete Rahn, director of the Missouri Department of Transportation.
Missouri, like the federal government and other states, has been watching revenues from the gas tax decline. Last year that revenue was down more than 3 percent, and so far this year it has declined a similar amount. The state’s highway budget was about to “hit the rocks,” he said, but federal stimulus funds gave it some breathing room.
Even when the economy recovers, the gas tax will remain under pressure.
“The Chevrolet Volt won’t pay a penny of fuel tax,” Rahn said of the electric car that will make its debut next year.
Rahn, past president of the American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials, said some states have considered implementing a road tax without waiting for the federal government to act, but a national system would probably work best.
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To reach Steve Everly, call 816-234-4455 or send e-mail to [email protected].


A Lifestyle Tax?


Posted By: Ebone' Mone't
26 days ago


How much are you willing to pay for your favorite soft drink?




Lawmakers on Capitol Hill are talking about taxing soda, wine and beer to help pay for healthcare.
"We're already paying extra taxes on beer, wine and liquor and cigarettes now why would we need to pay more tax," says Liquor store manager William Kniep.
The Senate Finance Committee is considering imposing a lifestyle tax on sugary, fattening soft drinks and alcohol.
"I think it's absolutely ridiculous especially after especially after both the state and federal tax that just got attached and has Marlborough Lights up to seven dollars," says Andrew Marsh, a patron at the Flying Saucer in Little Rock's River Market.
"When we pay for a soda a little bit of tax goes to our government and it's going to come back to help us in the long run," he says.
"Supporters of the tax say it would possibly slow sales of unhealthy items like this soda. While opponents, who mostly represent soft drink and alcohol companies, fear this tax could spill over to other products."
"I just have an issue with cherry picking and singling out sodas, and not taxing all the goods."
Little Rocks' Warehouse Liquor Market manager, of 30 years, says it doesn't work when the government taxes products to discourage people from buying them, he says just look at cigarettes.
"They're buying cheaper cigarettes, but I'm still buying the same amount."
However, some argue the $.56 cent cigarette sales tax hike this year is responsible for a drop in state revenue.
This week, the state announced may was the fifth of the last six months, with a drop in revenue. Still some on Capital Hill predict if people spend more at the bar, everyone will benefit from health care reform.
Arkansas' Senator Blanche Lincoln is on the Finance Committee.
Today's THV called her office to see where she stood on this matter, but she's traveling and wasn't free to comment.
As for the loss in revenue, this May the state brought in $3 million dollars less than it did last year.
The Senate Finance Committee estimates if there's not any reform soon, healthcare spending will reach nearly $4.4 trillion by 20:spew:
 

OregonMeds

Well-Known Member
Yep it's the liberals fault, sure... We strive for more complicated ways to tax ourselves to death and vote yes on all spending all the time.

Seriously though I would vote for this because I'm sure I can find a way around it, but I can't find a way around the tax at the pump.

I have sheets of lead somewhere in the garage, wrap that transceiver up and then they'd think I was really going nowhere like a good liberal.
 

medicineman

New Member
Yeah, that would work for me, I put about 3,000 miles per year on my truck. I'd be one happy worthless, lazy ass, lard ass, non-working, McDonalds eating, Liberal. Better than a dick licking, war mongering, skinny ass, pimp talking, gas guzzler driving, right wing bastard.
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
Yep it's the liberals fault, sure... We strive for more complicated ways to tax ourselves to death and vote yes on all spending all the time.

Seriously though I would vote for this because I'm sure I can find a way around it, but I can't find a way around the tax at the pump.

I have sheets of lead somewhere in the garage, wrap that transceiver up and then they'd think I was really going nowhere like a good liberal.
I'd have to talk to a shop about getting a diagnostic tool and then reprogram the CPU that handles checking for the sensor (as you can be sure that there would be a "dead man" switch that would kill the car if the sensor wasn't detected. So need to either A. by pass that dead man switch, which would likely be in the software regulating the engine, or a circuit that would have to be bypassed if you remove the GPS Sensor.

I just really don't want to have to waste my time doing something like that. You can guarantee that it'd void the warranty...
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Won't be long before they start charging you a carbon tax for breathing and farting. Don't think it can't happen. The government needs to come up with some way to tax us 9 trillion dollars a year so we can pay for all the bail outs.
 

Microdizzey

Well-Known Member
Won't be long before they start charging you a carbon tax for breathing and farting. Don't think it can't happen. The government needs to come up with some way to tax us 9 trillion dollars a year so we can pay for all the bail outs.
HR 2454 RH

‘‘SEC. 711. DESIGNATION OF GREENHOUSE GASES.
‘‘(a) GREENHOUSE GASES.—For purposes of this title, the following are greenhouse gases:
‘‘(1) Carbon dioxide.
‘‘(2) Methane.

‘‘(3) Nitrous oxide.
‘‘(4) Sulfur hexafluoride.
‘‘(5) Hydrofluorocarbons from a chemical manufacturing process at an industrial stationary source.
‘‘(6) Any perfluorocarbon.
‘‘(7) Nitrogen trifluoride.
‘‘(8) Any other anthropogenic gas designated as a greenhouse gas by the Administrator under this section.







Breathing and farting you say? :-o
 

medicineman

New Member
HR 2454 RH

‘‘SEC. 711. DESIGNATION OF GREENHOUSE GASES.
‘‘(a) GREENHOUSE GASES.—For purposes of this title, the following are greenhouse gases:
‘‘(1) Carbon dioxide.
‘‘(2) Methane.
‘‘(3) Nitrous oxide.
‘‘(4) Sulfur hexafluoride.
‘‘(5) Hydrofluorocarbons from a chemical manufacturing process at an industrial stationary source.
‘‘(6) Any perfluorocarbon.
‘‘(7) Nitrogen trifluoride.
‘‘(8) Any other anthropogenic gas designated as a greenhouse gas by the Administrator under this section.







Breathing and farting you say? :-o
Here's an Idea: Tax the uber-rich motherfuckers. It's either we tax them or eat them, and I don't fancy eating dirty fat old men.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Here's an Idea: Tax the uber-rich motherfuckers. It's either we tax them or eat them, and I don't fancy eating dirty fat old men.
Damn Med, you do realize that the poor pay almost no income tax, the middle class pays 30% and the top 10% of earners pay 70%. Not very equal is it? But then I guess your not for equality of man, you just want a free ride because your not a rich man.

Corporations are the real scum bags, I would wager that half of the big ones pay almost no income tax at all. Did you know that Goldman Sachs income tax was a paltry 16 million dollars last year? Thats laughable considering just the mortgage division 1 year ago made 16 million dollars in profit in 36 hours. Something wrong when you make 36 billion dollars but only pay .044% tax. Instead of trying to steal the peoples money try going after the big companies and corporations who aren't paying their fair share.
 

jrh72582

Well-Known Member
If by liberal, you mean free, then I am liberal. The word is derived from the Latin 'liberos', meaning 'freed slave' [noun] or the mere act of 'freeing' someone. I am free from all political constraints (or otherwise).

However, I'm in excellent shape, do not eat McDonald's at all, and I work (A LOT). So I don't understand how or why you reasonably (key word) characterize all liberals thusly. You understand your claim contains mere pathos - no logos and lacking all ethos.
 

max420thc

Well-Known Member
my dream is about to come true.
the government is going to tax the american economy out of bussiness and themselfs in the process because their tax revenue is drying up .
another 500K jobs lost this month..PLUS.
good job obongo at this rate everyone in the country will be unemployed . not that i give a shit if a bunch of liberals are homeless and starve .
several companys have already picked up and left the USA and several more are going to leave when this carbon bull shit pass's .
and it will pass i promise you .it is estimated we will have a net loss of jobs of over three and a half million jobs per year when it pass's.
 

max420thc

Well-Known Member
LIBERAL=SOMEONE WHO STEALS FROM OTHERS THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT.
THAT IS WHAT IT MEANS TODAY.IF YOU ARE ONE..THEN FUCK YOU. YOU CANT HAVE MY MONEY.
we.the consumer are not consuming right now. i have the state budgets are in a mess and the states are going to have to start laying people off .
thank jesus . if we could just shut down all of government ALL OF IT..no government ..WOW..i have waited along time to see government go out of bussiness.they will leave everyone alone when they shut down.
 

ilkhan

Well-Known Member
I can't wait to see what happens when they can't pay the prison guards for 3 or 4 months.
IOU's don't get the $1250 a month house payment made.
I'm loving this really.
We are watching the ultimate end of the US in California.
Other states will follow suit.
Then eventually when the credit runs out the Government will cease to function.

But I think they know that.
I think they already have a course of action planed out.
I'm afraid it will mean the end of the US.
And the installation of something much worse.
But I'm sure all the statists out there will love it.
 

max420thc

Well-Known Member
when the credit runs out....and it has already ..the US government is going to just print money.like they are doing right now.

this is going to..at some point in the not to distant future..considering the amount of money these idiots have just printed ..going to cause what is known as hyper inflation.
hyper inflations causes starvation because the money will be so worthless it wont buy food..china and russia are calling for a new world reserve currency. the ruble for the first time in history has surpassed US bond sales .
yea..im sure the statist are going to love mass anarchy..starvation . violence, its going to be alot of fun.
many of them are going to find bullet holes in their ass or in the ass of their loved ones.
 

max420thc

Well-Known Member
Yep it's the liberals fault, sure... We strive for more complicated ways to tax ourselves to death and vote yes on all spending all the time.

Seriously though I would vote for this because I'm sure I can find a way around it, but I can't find a way around the tax at the pump.

I have sheets of lead somewhere in the garage, wrap that transceiver up and then they'd think I was really going nowhere like a good liberal.
i wonder if you liberal know how dumn you look asking for the government to take away your rights and tie a computor chip to your ass to watch you with.anyone who is a american right now looks at you fools in disgust .you think its OK cause i can find a way around it you think..and med does not care because he is not the one being taxed .. he dont drive.but he sure wants you to be taxed to pay for his welfare.
you liberals are the most fucking pathetic excuses i have ever seen for americans.
i dont know who let your genetic structure into america after you get here..then you breed more little socialists that society has to take care of..just like fucking parisites.
that is exactly what i think of the modern liberal.fucking leech's that bleed the country dry and produce NOTHING and contribute NOTHING.what a bunch of losers.you think you have the right to steal others rights for your bennifit.
those that would deny the rights of others deserve not there own..when the dust settles ill be one making sure you dont have your rights..you will like when we are in charge of the government telling you stupid fucks what to do.
same as you like the government telling you what to do now..you are born slaves.
you would however enslave the rest of the population so you dont have to work if it was available to you..as it is now..but you are going to find your gravy train running out of town..:fire:
 

doobnVA

Well-Known Member
Wait, they're only going to tax liberals?

Fuckin' idiot. You act like you're somehow above this, like it wouldn't apply to you as well?

I believe the proposed tax would apply to everyone, equally. Republicans and Libertarians wouldn't be exempt.
 

Mcgician

Well-Known Member
Whoever keeps claiming that the word liberal=free is an idiot. How much more big government, big brother bullshit does the government have to do to wake you the fuck up? Jeezus!! They want to put a GPS in you car and you call yourself free? Douchebags!
 

medicineman

New Member
you stupid ass liberals. THEY HAVE A PLAN FOR YOUR DUMB ASS.they are going to attach a GPS to your car and tax you by the fucking mile...i cant wait till they put a scale at the end of the grocery store counter and tax you fat fucks by the pound.that will bankrupt all you lazy worthless non working mcdonalds eating lard ass liberals.

By-the-mile road tax could replace by-the-gallon federal fuel tax

By STEVE EVERLY

The Kansas City Star


More News





The year is 2020 and the gasoline tax is history. In its place you get a monthly tax bill based on each mile you drove — tracked by a Global Positioning System device in your car and uploaded to a billing center.
What once was science fiction is being field-tested by the University of Iowa to iron out the wrinkles should a by-the-mile road tax ever be enacted.
Besides the technological advances making such a tax possible, the idea is getting a hard push from a growing number of transportation experts and officials. That is because the traditional by-the-gallon fuel tax, struggling to keep up with road building and maintenance demands, could fall even farther behind as vehicles’ gas mileage rises and more alternative-fuel vehicles come on line.
The idea of shifting to a by-the-mile tax has been discussed for years, but it now appears to be getting more serious attention. A federal commission, after a two-year study, concluded earlier this year that the road tax was the “best path forward” to keep revenues flowing to highway and transportation projects, and could be an important new tool to help manage traffic and relieve congestion.
The decision by the 15-member National Surface Transportation Infrastructure Financing Commission was unanimous, which surprised Robert Atkinson, the group’s chairman. But he said it became clear as the commission’s work progressed that a road tax on miles traveled was the best option.
“If you’re committed to the system being improved then it was a no-brainer,” he said.
The commission pegged 2020 as the year for the federal fuel tax, currently 18.5 cents a gallon, to be phased out and replaced by a road tax. One estimate of a road tax that would cover the current federal and state fuel taxes is 1 to 2 cents per mile for cars and light trucks.
The commission said work needed to start soon to prepare for a road tax. But more work has already been done than most people probably realize.
Oregon did a field test in 2007, concluding it was possible to collect a road tax. The University of Iowa’s Public Policy Center — with support from the Federal Highway Administration and 15 states, including Kansas and Missouri — began work a decade ago on how a road tax could be deployed.
Now the University of Iowa, with the help of a $16 million federal grant, is beginning the field test that will eventually include 2,700 vehicles in six states. The vehicles equipped with computers and GPS devices will keep track of the miles traveled and send the data through wireless technology to a billing center that will compute “simulated” tax bills.
“There is a lot of work nationally going on that is beneath the surface,” said Pete Rahn, director of the Missouri Department of Transportation.
Missouri, like the federal government and other states, has been watching revenues from the gas tax decline. Last year that revenue was down more than 3 percent, and so far this year it has declined a similar amount. The state’s highway budget was about to “hit the rocks,” he said, but federal stimulus funds gave it some breathing room.
Even when the economy recovers, the gas tax will remain under pressure.
“The Chevrolet Volt won’t pay a penny of fuel tax,” Rahn said of the electric car that will make its debut next year.
Rahn, past president of the American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials, said some states have considered implementing a road tax without waiting for the federal government to act, but a national system would probably work best.
Next page >
To reach Steve Everly, call 816-234-4455 or send e-mail to [email protected].


A Lifestyle Tax?


Posted By: Ebone' Mone't
26 days ago


How much are you willing to pay for your favorite soft drink?




Lawmakers on Capitol Hill are talking about taxing soda, wine and beer to help pay for healthcare.
"We're already paying extra taxes on beer, wine and liquor and cigarettes now why would we need to pay more tax," says Liquor store manager William Kniep.
The Senate Finance Committee is considering imposing a lifestyle tax on sugary, fattening soft drinks and alcohol.
"I think it's absolutely ridiculous especially after especially after both the state and federal tax that just got attached and has Marlborough Lights up to seven dollars," says Andrew Marsh, a patron at the Flying Saucer in Little Rock's River Market.
"When we pay for a soda a little bit of tax goes to our government and it's going to come back to help us in the long run," he says.
"Supporters of the tax say it would possibly slow sales of unhealthy items like this soda. While opponents, who mostly represent soft drink and alcohol companies, fear this tax could spill over to other products."
"I just have an issue with cherry picking and singling out sodas, and not taxing all the goods."
Little Rocks' Warehouse Liquor Market manager, of 30 years, says it doesn't work when the government taxes products to discourage people from buying them, he says just look at cigarettes.
"They're buying cheaper cigarettes, but I'm still buying the same amount."
However, some argue the $.56 cent cigarette sales tax hike this year is responsible for a drop in state revenue.
This week, the state announced may was the fifth of the last six months, with a drop in revenue. Still some on Capital Hill predict if people spend more at the bar, everyone will benefit from health care reform.
Arkansas' Senator Blanche Lincoln is on the Finance Committee.
Today's THV called her office to see where she stood on this matter, but she's traveling and wasn't free to comment.
As for the loss in revenue, this May the state brought in $3 million dollars less than it did last year.
The Senate Finance Committee estimates if there's not any reform soon, healthcare spending will reach nearly $4.4 trillion by 20:spew:
Taxing compulsive Items is nothing new, they've been doing it since the inception. Ever heard of the whiskey rebellion? A lot of state revenue loss is due to unpaid tax bills on foreclosures. Smart people, are drinking less booze and quitting smoking. If you are one of the stupid ones, oh well.
 
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