TheBrutalTruth
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And how do you explain losing yours, Enslaver?
At least they have the balls to do it standing on their own two feet instead of crawling on their bellies like whipped curs.
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At least they have the balls to do it standing on their own two feet instead of crawling on their bellies like whipped curs.
medicineman
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Losing what? I'm doing just fine in the monetary realm. I'm not wealthy by any means, but I'm alright. Balls you say, you ignorant slut. I was a linesman for 8 years. Climbed poles and worked on high voltage, I think that takes balls. I was in Viet Nam, not my choice but still, there were some real heartstopping moments, Balls? I didn't have the monetary creativeness to get wealthy or the egoistic superior attitude needed, and I just didn't persue it. Does that make me Balless? I think not. The definition of Balls is in dispute here. BTW, The only time I ever crawled on my belly was when live rounds were screaming past over my head, how about you big talker.
TheBrutalTruth
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Who said anything about the lack of balls, I was talking about your humanity.
medicineman
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Originally Posted by TheBrutalTruth 
And how do you explain losing yours, Enslaver?
At least they have the balls to do it standing on their own two feet instead of crawling on their bellies like whipped curs.
I believe that was directed at me, No? Was that not an inference that I had lost my Balls? Are you not on the edge of schizophrenia?
And how do you explain losing yours, Enslaver?
At least they have the balls to do it standing on their own two feet instead of crawling on their bellies like whipped curs.
I believe that was directed at me, No? Was that not an inference that I had lost my Balls? Are you not on the edge of schizophrenia?
TheBrutalTruth
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No, that wasn't an inference that you lost your balls, but pointing out that the businessmen who made millions did it standing on their own two feet, while those that go chasing after the benefits promised by government crawl in the ground like whipped curs. I don't see how you get an inference that you don't have a pair from that...Originally Posted by TheBrutalTruth
And how do you explain losing yours, Enslaver?
At least they have the balls to do it standing on their own two feet instead of crawling on their bellies like whipped curs.
I believe that was directed at me, No? Was that not an inference that I had lost my Balls? Are you not on the edge of schizophrenia?
medicineman
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Then you are Blind. You've been attacking me with the enslaver and the beneficiary of unwarranted benefits for some time, Making it seem like I'm some blight on humanity for taking my shot at SS after 50+ years of contributions. Maybe I'll get more out than I put in, But there is also the employers contribution, virtually doubling what I donated. It's a crapshoot. I took mine at 62 for less money as it takes like 10-12 years before you even out if you waited till 65. When I hit 71-2 I'll be behind the curve and who knows if I'll live that long. Hell, I never would have guessed in a million years I'd live this long, go figure. I'm at the national average now, any more years and I'm beating the odds.
TheBrutalTruth
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Not attacking you on Social Security, attacking you based on your ideology. Instead of wishing to allow greater freedom you want to give the government the ability to run roughshod even more freedoms.
Though, maybe you can live another fifty years and really beat the odds.
medicineman
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For some un-beknown to me reason, you have supposed that I dislike freedom. Nothing could be further from the truth. I actually went to Viet nam in the (False premis) of defending freedom. Freedom can mean many things. It may even mean freedom from ever having to worry about insurmountable medical expenses. Have you ever considered that? It may mean freedom from ever having to worry if your kids will go hungry, or have a place to stay. It may mean freedom from worrying if you will have a job next week, freedom from leeching banks ripping your asshole out on credit cards. Freedom to you may be a totally different thing than freedom to someone living in the ghetto. Just throwing the "Freedom" word around like it applies equally to all is just not right. In the Capitalist system, money=freedom. If you aint got any, you is not free, not by a long shot.
TheBrutalTruth
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Even in a Socialist System Money=Freedom, because Socialism doesn't actually guarantee equality of all, it just guarantees that while all pigs are equal, some are more so than others. Specifically bureaucrats and politicians.
While the system we have doesn't guarantee fairness, it does guarantee that people have to accept self-responsibility, and can choose to do whatever they want with their lives.
I do not think that the government should concern itself with general welfare at an individual level, because as can be seen such actions have destroyed the general welfare of the entire nation by adding an insurmountable debt load onto the backs of the tax paying public for the benefit of those same corrupt bankers, who collect interest on the debt.
No matter what ideology comes out on top the real winners are the fucking bankers.
medicineman
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Most of this "insurmountable debt" has been created by wall street and Money lenders (Banks and financial institutions and Insurance companies). It is not the social contracts that have added 11 trillion to the debt. If we were to just cut our military spending in half, we could afford most all our social programs without a nickle more in taxes. The old worn out saying, " all are created equal just some are created more equal" may indeed have been true of social structures of the past. I do not advocate repeating those disasters. Rather a new paradigm. A combination of capitalism and socialism. One by where the capitalist companies are co owned by the employees. I don't know the particulars, but I'm sure if the will was there, the way would be made clear.
TheBrutalTruth
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The problem with that is you are just stealing from the existing investors and giving it to employees that often had the chance to invest in the companies that they worked for if they had made a little bit of effort to do so. Even a small amount invested over a long period of time can add up quickly.
Now, maybe if instead of trying to do that by outright theft they slowly purchased a stake in the companies they worked for it wouldn't be so bad. Of course, that's why the unions are no longer as powerful, employees wised up and realized that they could share in the fruits of their labor by purchasing shares in either their company, or other companies that their company does business with.
The stock market really has more to it than the trading conducted on it, it is a conduit for investment inside companies. Though personally, I don't care if I can invest in the company I work for, as long as I can invest in a company that I choose. I don't need the government trying to "help" me to do that on my own.
This country doesn't need more Socialism, it needs less, because the free market system already operates in such a way as to enable any one that is willing to put forth a little bit of effort to invest and reap a bigger share of the product of their labor.
About the only improvement that could be made is having the government ditch requiring the learning of foreign languages or other pointless courses, and require some basic economics courses so that people are aware that they don't have to be the government's bitch, or any one else's bitch for all of eternity.
snowmanexpress
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I was slithering on my belly as a baby I think. And I will be peeing my pants, and on my belly as a elderly man. But while Im alive I would like to make good choices.
THERE IS NO DEBT! We made the debt by ourselves, by wanted the big ass mansion, and the fat ass benz, rather than the rustbucket and beans and rice.
Truthfully, I believe the internet killed it. For real man. I place alot of hatred toward this crap.
I remember the Modem, the fucking baud bullshit man HHAHAHAHA........I WANT THOSE DAYS BACK BRO! When you could go into a chatroom and see whoever it is typing to you in real time. You could actually see those fuckers deleting shit they typed in real time. It was awesome.
Fuck fast, speed, better, bigger harder, stronger shit. Instead of being with our families, we are stuck on this digital world.
I believe, at least here in USA, you are limited to your brain, your friggin mental capacity to understand. If you have a small brain, you have to work harder. If you are smart enough to be happy, so be it. I believe we have no comprehension of happiness anymore, and has been replaced by money by alot of people in and of itself.
True, I try to be as optimistic as I can, but when I put gas in my yank I am a pessimist. HAHHA.
Social Security? Its funny, as a married couple, I heard you can claim yours, or the spouse's, but not BOTH.
But as an individual, if you die and dont get past retirement, youre money is gone, and does not go to your family, but to the government? That makes no sense. They keep our loot after death. What about these amounts that never get counted? That we turn a blind eye toward?
If we dont know how much the reserve has who really cares? It doesnt make a difference, because I will say they got all the money in the world to do anything.
Lately, it just seems to me that they are scrambling to fix the bubble that burst wide open from this fake ass system that was at 12,000 on the NYSE pre 2001 we had this fake ass bullshit everywhere. Now someone grabbed a needle and friggin exploded this junk system we had in place for a long time.
I thought equifax, transunion, experian, would go broke because they dont have a sytem to defend anymore becuase its absolutely garbage and influenced by the government's choices?
We lost half of the happy ness and now sitting at 7-8000 on the nyse and working to build that crap back up?
When oil now was at 67 dollars lately. HAHAHa. It was at 120 something dollars these guys know what they are doing man for real..... anyone smart wouldve pulled out at 107 or whatever, let it come back down to 60 bucks and reinvest again. Its a fucking cycle man. Build it up, bring it down. They are smart bro. I am dumb right?
Now, its getting corporate you say, it is getting harder these days for the small business to really make a name for yourself? REALLY? REALLY? Maybe these losers have nothing to offer?
little mom and pop shops, family owned bars and gas stations. The little man now has a tough time to get ahead, and if they devised the system to turn corporate I think.
The small business has nothing to offer anymore right?
Little web entrepeneurs trying to make billions off this shit? Facebook? Myspace? Twitter???? WHAT THE FOCK IS TWITTER MAN FOR REAL! I never understood that shit? What is that crap? Socialist? How did that social crap make SOOOOOO MUCHHHH LOOOOOOT?????????????
RIU website here is worth about 200 thousand dollars now. Now tell me these websites are not killing us, Paid ads, marketing, sell sell sell. Its bullshit. I just think money is motivating alot people now, and the real happyness wherever you may find it is up to you.
Im happy, I think, are you comfortable in your home? Can you be comfortable? What is comfort? What is normal man?
We all have different ideas, and ideals, and thoughts, and pessimists and optimists.
If money makes you happy, so be it. But, if they continue to kill the small business and make it increasingly difficult to make money, to live in a world based off money is tough. How you get your loot is absolutely up to you. I hate living this way of thinking that I cant get ahead anymore, but there is happyness, and loot out there, we just have to WORK real hard to find it, sitting around like lazy-asses and typing on a keyboard will not make us happy.
You were in nam? Thanks man, Im glad you made it brother. Enslaver or not you are a person and I respect your attitude. If we all thought the same way, well, we would'nt be individuals.
THERE IS NO DEBT! We made the debt by ourselves, by wanted the big ass mansion, and the fat ass benz, rather than the rustbucket and beans and rice.
Truthfully, I believe the internet killed it. For real man. I place alot of hatred toward this crap.
I remember the Modem, the fucking baud bullshit man HHAHAHAHA........I WANT THOSE DAYS BACK BRO! When you could go into a chatroom and see whoever it is typing to you in real time. You could actually see those fuckers deleting shit they typed in real time. It was awesome.
Fuck fast, speed, better, bigger harder, stronger shit. Instead of being with our families, we are stuck on this digital world.
I believe, at least here in USA, you are limited to your brain, your friggin mental capacity to understand. If you have a small brain, you have to work harder. If you are smart enough to be happy, so be it. I believe we have no comprehension of happiness anymore, and has been replaced by money by alot of people in and of itself.
True, I try to be as optimistic as I can, but when I put gas in my yank I am a pessimist. HAHHA.
Social Security? Its funny, as a married couple, I heard you can claim yours, or the spouse's, but not BOTH.
But as an individual, if you die and dont get past retirement, youre money is gone, and does not go to your family, but to the government? That makes no sense. They keep our loot after death. What about these amounts that never get counted? That we turn a blind eye toward?
If we dont know how much the reserve has who really cares? It doesnt make a difference, because I will say they got all the money in the world to do anything.
Lately, it just seems to me that they are scrambling to fix the bubble that burst wide open from this fake ass system that was at 12,000 on the NYSE pre 2001 we had this fake ass bullshit everywhere. Now someone grabbed a needle and friggin exploded this junk system we had in place for a long time.
I thought equifax, transunion, experian, would go broke because they dont have a sytem to defend anymore becuase its absolutely garbage and influenced by the government's choices?
We lost half of the happy ness and now sitting at 7-8000 on the nyse and working to build that crap back up?
When oil now was at 67 dollars lately. HAHAHa. It was at 120 something dollars these guys know what they are doing man for real..... anyone smart wouldve pulled out at 107 or whatever, let it come back down to 60 bucks and reinvest again. Its a fucking cycle man. Build it up, bring it down. They are smart bro. I am dumb right?
Now, its getting corporate you say, it is getting harder these days for the small business to really make a name for yourself? REALLY? REALLY? Maybe these losers have nothing to offer?
little mom and pop shops, family owned bars and gas stations. The little man now has a tough time to get ahead, and if they devised the system to turn corporate I think.
The small business has nothing to offer anymore right?
Little web entrepeneurs trying to make billions off this shit? Facebook? Myspace? Twitter???? WHAT THE FOCK IS TWITTER MAN FOR REAL! I never understood that shit? What is that crap? Socialist? How did that social crap make SOOOOOO MUCHHHH LOOOOOOT?????????????
RIU website here is worth about 200 thousand dollars now. Now tell me these websites are not killing us, Paid ads, marketing, sell sell sell. Its bullshit. I just think money is motivating alot people now, and the real happyness wherever you may find it is up to you.
Im happy, I think, are you comfortable in your home? Can you be comfortable? What is comfort? What is normal man?
We all have different ideas, and ideals, and thoughts, and pessimists and optimists.
If money makes you happy, so be it. But, if they continue to kill the small business and make it increasingly difficult to make money, to live in a world based off money is tough. How you get your loot is absolutely up to you. I hate living this way of thinking that I cant get ahead anymore, but there is happyness, and loot out there, we just have to WORK real hard to find it, sitting around like lazy-asses and typing on a keyboard will not make us happy.
You were in nam? Thanks man, Im glad you made it brother. Enslaver or not you are a person and I respect your attitude. If we all thought the same way, well, we would'nt be individuals.
jrh72582
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Do you really think that anyone has the potential to reap the rewards of their labor? You think the system is completely egalitarian and equitable? You don't think there's any bias and slant? I mean, I think it's clear that the poor, underprivileged, and uneducated have much more hurdles to clear than those born in more forgiving circumstances. Ideally and for the most part, your statement is correct IMO, but needs to consider these factors.
I agree that students need a much deeper grasp of economics. But I also think multiple languages are absolutely necessary for pre, middle, and high education. Becoming multilingual is an exercise in mental calisthenics. It sharpens the wit and increases the ability to solve problems. It also instills perseverance and dedication. I normally hate 'everyone else is doing it' arguments, but we are one of few developed countries whose people speak only one language. Exploring language also reaps many psychological rewards. I am firmly convinced that becoming a bilingual nation will improve our schools greatly - and it doesn't have to be Spanish. Spanish would be the easiest and most accessible, but learning ANY (hell, even computer code, symbolic logic, sign language, etc...) other foreign language is crucial.
snowmanexpress
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I dont think that one bit. There are ways to expand your mental capacity and some understanding, but language should be indigenous to the people themselves? To their own. Im not trying to learn how to get into thier heads, or talk to them, or thier little secrets, I want to figure out how to live together with them in happyness. Drawing circles in the sand and shit, communication. We can communicate in silence as well I believe in my own mind.
GanjaAL
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Hahahaha funny you should say that... they have been trying to pass that into law but we have not heard about it because of the media coverage on MJ.
Taxation without representation!
Ask and you shall recieve.... "CHANGE"
Dolce Vita
Active Member
So if this does go through, but we don't pay the tax, would it be tax evasion, literally?
snowmanexpress
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Ask a gas station owner to answer that.
Y'know, I also love how they abolished gambling online in USA. Finally, a way to make loot off of luck, and skill, thats ridiculous to me. Probly because they couldnt tax them.
Ya, they can take away gambling, and the ability to deposit money, but they cant end music downloads? What a joke.
Dolce Vita
Active Member
If they take away frostwire from me i will go to DC and Head butt whoever started the bill and knock em out!
ive downloaded about 2000 songs in the month that ive been home from college!
TheBrutalTruth
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Being multilingual isn't going to help some one that doesn't have the ability to understand basic economics, or why debt is a poison. It is also less useful than economics because in the primary most people are not going to travel outside of the United States.
Besides, that, it ignores the fact that one nation, one people need one language. The United States can not be a heterogenous melting pot if we allow every minority to retain their language, and treat it as if it deserves respect after they chose to come here.
As far as languages, the only three languages I can think of that might be worth making the effort ot learn are
Chinese
Hindu
and Japanese or German.
Outside of German, these languages are rarely available inside public schools, because of the sycophantic behavior of the REMFs in school administration towards Spanish.
Then there is the fact that these courses should not be required, because it should be up to a person what additional languages they want to learn. There is also the problem with the fact that the amount of time available for school work pretty much eliminates any chance of learning a foreign language beyond the basics and intermediate levels through taking courses in Highschool.
The above is also true for programming languages, which are more complex than you can probably imagine.
Besides, Understanding economics also requires mental calisthenics so the argument that it involves mental calisthenics to learn a foreign language is irrelevant. I would actually say that economics is much more complex than any foreign language, because the complexity is infinitely greater as a whole.
Of course, Economics is also something that everyone is guaranteed to need knowledge of. Just because some vocal minority wishes to have their dictatorial opinions shoved into the curriculum doesn't mean it should be, and that is precisely what happened with foreign languages. Economics on the other hand is useful for everyone.
jrh72582
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So let's design a curriculum with BOTH a heavy emphasis on economics AND foreign language. And why you pick only 4 languages makes little sense. Latin, Greek, and Spanish are easily foundational structures and readily available in many schools. No one can convince me that setting high standards in the realm of language arts is somehow detrimental. Do you realize just how much time is wasted in a given day at most schools? We should be able to teach, and expect the students to retain, at least twice as much.
And it should be a choice. There should always be the option to opt out, so to speak. But, in a Darwinian economy (and society), I have a feeling most kids can easily be convinced that learning as much as possible is of utmost priority. By teaching a kid well, you can produce an intellectual monster.