Thanks To 'Fight For $15' Minimum Wage, McDonald's Unveils Job-Replacing Self-Service Kiosks

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churchhaze

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Moly said:
being poor makes you unhealthy. being fat is a side effect of being unhealthy. People born poor (to no fault of there own) in countries with really high wealth inequalities have lower life expectancies then poor people born in poor countries.

January 2006, a report into poverty in The Scotsmannewspaper[4] stated that "a child born in Calton... is three times as likely to suffer heart disease, four times as likely to be hospitalised and ten times as likely to grow up in a workless household than a child in the city's prosperous western suburbs". Calton has the lowest male life expectancy in Scotland. A BBC Scotland news report on 13 February 2006 pointed out that, partially due to poor diet, crime, alcohol and drug abuse, life expectancy in Calton is lower than in some areas of Iraq or the Gaza Strip.
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That's fine, but the argument was whether or not it's processed foods that's causing so many people to be overweight in america. That's gotta be the least responsible thing I've ever heard. It had nothing to do with what types of food are healthy.
 
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churchhaze

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Fogdog said:
hmm You beat a lot of drums at once in that message. Are you saying that a $15 minimum wage is too high because fat people?
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Am I really supposed to answer this? Where did you see me saying that? In the words of sativied, straw-man.
 
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churchhaze

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By the way, minimum wage is just a price floor. Price floors are great for rationing supply, for example, the government could put a price floor on gasoline to ration it during wartime. A price floor on labor has no other effect than rationing labor, which is another way of saying creating unemployment. Of course if you don't raise it above the equilibrium point, it serves no purpose other than feeling good about it emotionally. It's ceremonial.

This is economics, not politics. I just can't understand how people can act so surprised by the result whether you were for or against the increase.



Yeah yeah, I know.. I'm a fucking retard... I've heard it all before.
 
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churchhaze

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Whether you hard core leftists like it or not, you're going to have no other choice but to team up with centrists if you want to get congress back...
 
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churchhaze

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UncleBuck said:
the democratic party is the centrist party in case you hadn't noticed.
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To me, it seems like they're all over the place, like the republicans were in 2012. How many bernie bros do you think voted for trump just because they hated Hillary?

Edit: reality is that it doesn't matter what my fiscal/economic opinions are now.. In 2020, I'll have no other choice but to vote for the democratic candidate. (for president) I value social issues like immigration, racism, equal rights, weed, etc, more important than the economy and will compromise to get the nationalist out.
 
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twostrokenut said:
Obviously kiosks are not new or really an advancement in tech. They're really old actually. What this is, is simply cost assessment.
What's the best way to keep my BigMacs priced where I want them to be?

Australia did it with smaller burgers and and min wage loopholes for teenagers.
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how come big macs in countries that have a much higher minimum wage aren't much higher, if not cheaper, than they are here in the us, where we have a much lower minimum wage?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/274326/big-mac-index-global-prices-for-a-big-mac/
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/sep/26/facebook-posts/do-other-countries-have-higher-minimum-wage-united/

denmark, who has a minimum wage almost 3x's that minimum wage workers in the us get paid, yet, the price of a big mac in that country is $4.44, compared to the price of a big mac in the us, $5.04..

so, to answer your question about keeping the big mac price where you might like them to be at, i'd suggest maybe moving to denmark, where you can get a minimum wage job paying 3x's that of an american minimum wage worker, and still save $.60 per burger..
 
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churchhaze said:
It was in response to people here claiming that you get fat from eating processed, non-organic food. I'm not sure what you're so confused about. If someone makes ridiculous claims, I will argue against them. Straight up, you get fat because you intake more calories than you burn, not because you eat mcdonalds.
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Fer fucks sake, are you kidding me? So you're saying that if someone ate 3,000 calories a day of McDonalds, and another person at 3,000 calories a day of veggies, they'll both be equally fat and unhealthy?
 
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i've also used the big mac index to compare different states, all within the us of a, against their minimum wage, trying to correlate a direct rise in the price of a big mac in accordance to a direct rise in the big mac.. i compared, i think it was pennsylvania, $7.25 / hour, to that of california, $10 / hour, and once again, the price for a big mac was cheaper in california opposed to pennsylvania.. it was not a huge cost increase in the state that workers make less working minimum wage, but if the prices of goods and services go up with the price of minimum wages, then the opposite should be true, but facts prove this to not be the case..
 
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racerboy71

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st0wandgrow said:
Fer fucks sake, are you kidding me? So you're saying that if someone ate 3,000 calories a day of McDonalds, and another person at 3,000 calories a day of veggies, they'll both be equally fat and unhealthy?
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i did see a headline the other day on the book of face, and some dude said he lost weight by eating x amount of calories by eating junk food from convenience stores, trying to prove that weight gain is more determined by caloric intake, and not as much be eating healthy.. he called it something like the convenience store det.. i didn't really clink on the link and read the entire article though tbh..
if you're interested, i'm sure i could try and google and post the links..
btw, i don't think the article had anything to do with health, just weight gain and lose..
 
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churchhaze

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st0wandgrow said:
Fer fucks sake, are you kidding me? So you're saying that if someone ate 3,000 calories a day of McDonalds, and another person at 3,000 calories a day of veggies, they'll both be equally fat and unhealthy?
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No, I just said equally fat. But if you are fat, you must have access to abundant food. I am also not saying that we shouldn't strive to make things better.
 
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churchhaze

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You guys know that even poor people get to choose what they put in their bodies? if you put soda in it, it's not because you're poor. Water is free and healthy. Fat is a telltale sign of rich, not poor.
 
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churchhaze said:
You guys know that even poor people get to choose what they put in their bodies? if you put soda in it, it's not because you're poor. Water is free and healthy. Fat is a telltale sign of rich, not poor.
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Lmfao this is some kinda joke right? Price out what a family of 4 pays from shopping the sales and what it would take for that same family to shop healthy. Then talk about fat is a sign of wealth.
 
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churchhaze said:
Am I really supposed to answer this? Where did you see me saying that? In the words of sativied, straw-man.
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OK, so, I'm not picking a fight with you, we've talked before on several subjects and in general we see the world in about the same way. Personally, I don't like it when people post shock pictures like the starving kids and so, you got my attention with it. Your follow up post was some rambling bit about fat people, organic food and sense of your outrage, about what was impenetrable. And so, on a post dealing with the minimum wage, what the fuck were you bellowing about when you said this:
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Have you ever seen a picture like that where the kids were fat? Fat means not hungry. We're so rich in the US, we get to complain about how poorness makes us fat. What a load of bullshit to those who are actually malnourished. They must be skinny because they eat all organic, unprocessed foods, right? (I keep hearing that the poor in the US are fat because they can't afford "healthy" food). We eat so much food that it makes us fat, it's an insult to those with not enough food for us complain about it.
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