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bc.trip

bc.trip

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vdubfanatic said:
thanks for the positive comment. its been a horrible week but i feel better now.. when my babies are depressed, I feel depressed...
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i did the same thing my first grow last year, vdub. started in mg and actually ended up losing the first 5 plants i started. tried hempy the second go around with much better results. i think hempy works wonders for newbs. and good luck getting those plants back on track.
 
vdubfanatic

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:sleep:thanks and already they are looking better. I had the light too far, 400w mh, so i moved it closer 18" temps are at 80f. I hope in about a week these babies will be happy again. I cant wait to start adding the fox farm nutes.. I'm guessing that half will be male so i will have about 8 or so plants that i will have to flower once they get to about a foot tall.. We'll ssee what happens. I'll keep you updated.. Thanks again fellas...
 
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YoungProphet

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i been reading around and notice alot ppl are using micro/grow/bloom from Flora Series so most likely i will start with these nutes as it looks easier but not the easiest.


Now what im getting is that during veging you need to use less concentrated dosages, and during flowering stages obviously stronger dosages...

Now the Lucas Formula seems to be effective and majority hydroponic growers are using the method , so I believe Im going to start this way.


Now i understand the the formula and how much of the nutrients i need but I do not understand if this is a standard formula for every size bucket.?

Plan on following the Lucas Formula

General Hydroponics Flora Series Feeding Strategy - Lucas Formula

G-M-B (Grow-Micro-Bloom)
0-5-10 - For Vegetative cycle (18/6)
0-8-16 - For Flowering cycle (12/12)

so i understand that during vegetative stages ill be using 5ml micro, 10ml bloom under 18 hrs of light and 6 hrs of dark now my question is are these dosages under whatever amount of water? or do i have to add more depending on how many gallons of water i use?


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Im going to be growing in a 3gallon hempy bucket.


please guys any insight and advice is kindly welcomed.
 
bc.trip

bc.trip

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YoungProphet said:
i been reading around and notice alot ppl are using micro/grow/bloom from Flora Series so most likely i will start with these nutes as it looks easier but not the easiest.


Now what im getting is that during veging you need to use less concentrated dosages, and during flowering stages obviously stronger dosages...

Now the Lucas Formula seems to be effective and majority hydroponic growers are using the method , so I believe Im going to start this way.


Now i understand the the formula and how much of the nutrients i need but I do not understand if this is a standard formula for every size bucket.?

Plan on following the Lucas Formula

General Hydroponics Flora Series Feeding Strategy - Lucas Formula

G-M-B (Grow-Micro-Bloom)
0-5-10 - For Vegetative cycle (18/6)
0-8-16 - For Flowering cycle (12/12)

so i understand that during vegetative stages ill be using 5ml micro, 10ml bloom under 18 hrs of light and 6 hrs of dark now my question is are these dosages under whatever amount of water? or do i have to add more depending on how many gallons of water i use?


FYI

Im going to be growing in a 3gallon hempy bucket.


please guys any insight and advice is kindly welcomed.
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if i get what you're asking...it just depends on your plants. you start out in lower doses and as the plants grow you use stronger doses as needed. pretty much all nutes are mixed by the gallon. like it'd be 5ml per gallon, so if you needed two gallons you'd use 10ml. same strength, just more water. is that a typo with there not being any n in the formula you're using?
 
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YoungProphet

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bc.trip said:
if i get what you're asking...it just depends on your plants. you start out in lower doses and as the plants grow you use stronger doses as needed. pretty much all nutes are mixed by the gallon. like it'd be 5ml per gallon, so if you needed two gallons you'd use 10ml. same strength, just more water. is that a typo with there not being any n in the formula you're using?
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hey man , thanks that al i needed get straight. I just wasn't sure if its based on a gallon.

and no is not a typo, according to lucas formula you don't use any grow, just micro and Bloom, supposedly works better.
 
GoodFriend

GoodFriend

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bc.trip said:
if i get what you're asking...it just depends on your plants. you start out in lower doses and as the plants grow you use stronger doses as needed. pretty much all nutes are mixed by the gallon. like it'd be 5ml per gallon, so if you needed two gallons you'd use 10ml. same strength, just more water. is that a typo with there not being any n in the formula you're using?
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those aren't NPK's but actually the amounts of mL per gallon of micro and bloom nutes from gh...

i.e. 5 mL micro and 10 mL bloom
then 8 ml micro and 16 ml bloom

youngprophet... say you're making one gallon at a time... for veg put in 1 tsp of micro and 2 of bloom for that amount

tbh, for veg i find mj likes more N, so i'll flip it and do 2 tsp of micro 1 tsp bloom for veg and then 1 tsp micro and 2 tsp bloom for flower


.... or if i'm lazy (one or two waterings a week), and just do 2 tsp's each, for a nice simple 10-10-10 npk =]
 
bc.trip

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huh, no grow. interesting. personally only having to use two parts sounds great. i might have to try that out.
 
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YoungProphet

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hey thanks ian, i def get it now...der..lol.
Just been wanting to absorb as much knowledge as i can as fast as I can so i can start on my grow already, im so excited man!, well hopefully goes good.
Hey guys Im looking around for some good strains and hear good stuff about buying them from nirvanas, I really like the white widow stuff tell ya truth, but do you guys think thats a good idea for growing hempy/indoor style my first time?:blsmoke:.
or maybe some master kush, idk either way any input will be apreciated.
 
doogleef

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TO make it even easier you can get GH FloraNova Bloom. Use it at 8ml/gal = 1050PPM @ .5. It is the exact same chem breakdown as the 0/8/16 mix in 1 bottle. Great value. This is Lucas' preferred nute these days.

This will work for veg as well. They only change you make is use 5ml/gallon if growing under fluro.
 
GoodFriend

GoodFriend

Lumberjack
... i don't really like the whole nute mix in one bottle... no "tweaking" is possible without adding something else

what if you got a plant that really loves nitrogen?
you don't want to have to also give it more potassium and phosphorus if not needed

imo i like using the 2 of the 3 part because of its versatility...


if yer looking for a place to get some seeds from i suggest mandala... good genetics, good prices... a 'lil different from what you'll find elsewhere but just as damn good =]
 
doogleef

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Lucas's best result actually came with a res starting at 1000PPM of the FloraNova Grow and all the addbacks with the Bloom. The theory was that it fed the stretch and was all bloom by about 2 weeks in. Just about perfect.

I understand the desire to be flexible and add things but I've seen multiple grows done with just FNB. No diff, no additions needed.

Simplistic functionality is a beautiful thing.
 
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mrrippey

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Hey gang,

Seeds hit perlite 5 days ago and I have one set of leaves. They are each growing under 2 27w CFL 2800 lumens each. Temp are between 74 and 76 degrees, humidity is low. I have watered them daily just a few tablespoons and once did a flush (yesterday). Although they seem stronger, they are both leaning 90 degrees. One of them is pretty purple on one leaf. Both stalks are purple.

I know there is a nut deficiency but I read I should not nut for the first three weeks. I am in Miracle Grow perlite and water with Poland Spring water.

Here are the pics, can anyone help me please?????:confused::confused:
 

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mannurse801

mannurse801

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There is no nute deficiency. The perlite has ferts in it. I imagine you are experiencing nute twist. I just read about it. I nuted my plants early too, and my leaves curled upside down. Back to normal now. Some yellowing now with little brown spots, getting my nutes on the laeves, I have to start m isting my plants after I water to rinse off the nute solution.....
Cheers.
 
bc.trip

bc.trip

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lumberjack_ian said:
what's the use of it?

micro is 5 - 0 - 1

bloom is 0 - 5 - 4

what does the grow have these two don't ???:roll:

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that explains it. i just assumed the micro didn't have any macronutrients in it. i'm using the ej 3 part formula, their micro is only micronutrients.
 
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YoungProphet

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yea that sound much simpler so 3 bottles in 1 huh?, hey doog are you still using this method?. I might just try the flora nova bloom by GH.
Hey guys i totally left this out, what meters do i need to puchase? I heard Td and a ph meter is that all? Td meters read ppm right?
 
shnkrmn

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A little hempy porn for y'all this morning. Here's one of my girls today. 5 gallon hempy. Day 45 of flowering.:hump::hump::hump:


 
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Niice plant shnkrmn!!! wow i wish i can get to that level soon.

Ok guys so it looks like learning to grow is a never ending journey...Now idk if im going to go ahead w/ my plans since it seems i reached a road block.

I was not aware i needed 2 different spaces for growing, you know 1 for vegging and another for flowering. ;{.
Can i maybe get a decent size tent and divide it inside somehow? My main thing here is my space is limited, i have about 3ft W by 5ftH to spare...

please guys i hope i find a solution to this proplem.


i ws thinking since vegging is between 1 -2 months can the vegging area just be some sort small box or something where i can just start my plants in w/ some cfl bulb in there?...idk im confused again.
 
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