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The Official Canna Coco & Nutrients Thread

Discussion in 'Drain-To-Waste Hydro' started by jberry, Aug 9, 2009.

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    since1991

    since1991 Well-Known Member

    Yes. And get a pH and EC meter. I suggest a Bluelab Combo meter. Keep it clean and calibrated. Follow the light feed chart on Cannas website. Its pretty spot on. Skip all the pricey additives at first. Maybe just the expensive but very effective Rhizotonic. Its perfect for already rooted cuttings.But really just use the base. 2 and 3 gallon fabric bags are perfect for just about any size indoors for most growers. Make sure you know what yiur starting water ec and pH is too. Always use a nutrient solution...never plain start water. Search this forum for all the coco coir growing threads and stickies you can. Take notes...and go for it. Its easy. Cannas brick or loose bag coco coir needs no rinsing. Its quality. Washed and buffered to a high professional standard. The nutrient lineup is foolproof. They have ALOT of experience doing what theyve always done. All you need to do is do your part and follow some simple rules. The whole Canna program is pretty much dkne for you....and growers all over the planet use thier products to grow stinky buds with minimal effort.
     
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    since1991

    since1991 Well-Known Member

    I was recently introduced to a grower who got tired of falling indoor prices and moved his whole operation to a decent sized greenhouse with all the bells and whistles. He grows (or grew actually) smaller plants (for outdoor) in Canna Cogr boards with the whole Canna lineup with a fancy drip fertigation system. He showed me pics of his mid flower crop from September. His crop was jaw dropping to say the least. I have a smaller greenhouse myself but always did tye organic rich soil thing outdoors. Next season iam gonna try coco coir slabs similar to this dudes grow. Unreal results in a greenhouse.
     
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    muleface

    muleface Well-Known Member

    well you sold me on that. thanks! Their website is very helpful.
     
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    muleface

    muleface Well-Known Member

    Thoughts on drain to waste vs recirculating in a coco medium?
     
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    since1991

    since1991 Well-Known Member

    No question. Although many growers get away with it and ive seen many a finely ran flood and drain setup using coco coir....its IDEALLY suited to an open non recovery drip or top feed fertigation program.
     
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    714steadyeddie

    714steadyeddie Well-Known Member

    What exactly does rizotonic do? Making the switch from Lucas to Cana coco nutes
     
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    zypheruk

    zypheruk Active Member

    Rizotonic is for roots, produces fast growing strong healthy roots. Well worth the money. If you foliar feed rather than root drench it will act faster and save on the amount used.
     
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    714steadyeddie

    714steadyeddie Well-Known Member

    Do you use tonic all thru grow?

    Should I get boost and pk as well? I grow in coco
     
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    zypheruk

    zypheruk Active Member

    I personally stop using Rizotonic at the start of week four of 12/12.
    Forget the boost not worth the cash, get the PK13/14 add it end of week three thru to end week four of 12/12, then again a few weeks before harvest.
     
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    BudzMalone

    BudzMalone Member


    Hi, I've a couple of questions if you'd be so kind. I'm a new grower 4 weeks into flower.

    Why is boost not worth it? Do you use something else?

    I thought the PK 13/14 was for use only during week 5. Is there a benefit to using at a different time or is it changed due to not using boost?.
     
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    zypheruk

    zypheruk Active Member


    All I now use for complete grow is Rizotonic, Cannazyme, (that keeps the roots in top condition) Canna A&B,(the meat and potatoes) Canna PK13/14 I use as described it just works best for me this way, I seen no difference using anything else, except my bank account now has cash in it
     
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    BudzMalone

    BudzMalone Member

    Thats Ok, if it works for you. I struggled paying for the nutrients this run, I had some a+b to start with but that's all, I got boost and cannazyme a week after flower but have plenty left for the next one.

    Nearly finished my first grow, its looking ok to be fair.. I had a few issues at first and using old second hand tent etc...

    Got myself a new tent, light and extractor plus auto pots for the second go.
    Rhizotonic on order..

    Thanks
     
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    muleface

    muleface Well-Known Member

    I have completed my dutch bucket coco setup. I went with DTW, at the end of the day, i am only really using 18 gallons of water each day. so its not the end of the world. I went with CHEM-GRO TOMATO FORMULA 4-18-38. I got a 25 lb bag, so price wise, it should't be a killer. I figure it will last me about 5000 gallons. so at 18 gallons a day around a 10 months.

    My setup is the bottom 2 inches of the bato bucket is clay pebbles, then the rest is canna coco. I have 2 feed lines per bucket, that run for about 1 minute 2x a day, the two lines put out about 50 oz of water twice a day per pot. There is a good amount of run off when the pump shuts off. Im not sure i like water distribution method i am using, i wish there was way to spread it better over the top of the grow medium.

    any tips or suggestions would be welcomed.
     

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    Trichome Producer

    Trichome Producer New Member

    High everyone.I am going to switch my small grow to coco next run.money is no object.looking at canna coco and house and gardens coco and the dreaded advenced nutrients coco.canna seems very popular,but has no flush product or flush listed on the schedual.Biggest problem with last runs in soil was no matter what the ash wont turn black.What do you canna guys use for flushing? Thanks
     
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    since1991

    since1991 Well-Known Member

    I keep dissing Rhizotonic and Cannazym because of the price but DAMMIT. THAT SHIT TOGETHER JUST BLOWS ROOTS OUT PERIOD. I always shy away from the pricey additives at the hydro shops but again...i just bought a liter of each about 10 days ago...and WOW. The shkt just amazes me everytine i pop a nice small plant out a 4 inch or red dixie starter pot. I have to admit it now...that shit is way bettwr than General Organics BioRoot or Bcuzz/Greenfuse. I used to think and tell everyone that they were all the same but they are not. Roots Excel from H&G is good too but Rhizo amd Cannazym...damn that stuff goes good together in my tanks. No more dissing the Canna gear. The proof is beyond a doubt in my gardens.
     
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    Trichome Producer

    Trichome Producer New Member

    Hello.Not to sound like an idiot but could someone help me with the canna chart.They talk about phases instead of weeks.1 period the flowers get longer.next period they get more volume.Next phase they gain weight.etc.Well it seems to me as they get longer they also get more volume and get heavier all at the same time.I just want to get the timing right especially the pk.Some pointers to exactly what i am looking for would really be appreciated.Thanks.
     

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