Uncle Ben's Gardening Tweeks and Pointers

sambo020482

sambo020482

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doc111 said:
Check this thread out. It's one of the best ones pertaining to molasses that I've seen. It's a long read but I think you'll learn a lot. Enjoy! ;-)

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/186821-molasses-every-thing-u-need.html :leaf:
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thanks doc, i already read it tho just wanted to no what UB thought bout molasses???

i got 9 clones veggin so im gonna do a test with it on at least 2, but thought id ask UB what he thinks of it first???

i no its not ur thread doc, but you seem to no alot also and UB is prob busy answering 1000s of other q's. Whats your opinion on molasses? worth a try or not?
 
snew

snew

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DaveCoulier said:
It sounds like they are stretching because the light is too far away, hence the falling over.

You can place more soil around the base of the stem to prop it up, or cut a straw to length, split it down the middle then wrap it around your plant to keep it standing up until you can transplant it and bury it deeper into the soil.
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Be careful with t-5 they can burn the plant. a couple of inches should do it but watch as you move them closer. I burnt mine.
 
snew

snew

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UB thanks for all the great info. I posted on my journal and 2 times under plant problems and I get the same thing Mag deficiency. I have watered with epson salt last week. I feed a tea of bat guano, worm castings and molasses 1 time 2 weeks ago and plan to feed again next watering.
I'm growing 2 parts FFOF and 1part FFLW. I add bone/blood meal and worm casting lightly to mix. I water about every 4 days now with about 1 gallon of water with 3 gallon pots. The plant otherwise looks healthy, dark green, large fan leaves buds are filling in and becoming firm. I just don't want it to take over completely.
Here are some pictures I hope you can help. There are of course more in my journal.
Thanks for your time.

snew
 

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doogleef

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Actually looks like a slight K deficiency. Happens pretty often on tall plants like that.

K def symptoms
- Mel Frank
Starting on the large lower leaves, the tips of the blades brown and die. Necrotic areas or spots form on the blades, particularly along the margins. Sometimes the leaves are spattered with chlorotic tissue before necrosis develops, and the leaves look pale or yellow. Symptoms may appear on indoor plants grown in a soil rich in organic material. This may be due to high salinity (Na) of some manures or composts used in the soil. Red stems and petioles accompany potassium deficiencies. K deficiencies that could seriously affect your crop rarely occur with indoor soils. However, mild symptoms are quite common. Usually the plants grow very well except for some necrotic spotting or areas on the older leaves. (This condition is primarily and aesthetic problem, and you may choose not to fertilise.
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No big deal. Got any woodash?
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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snew said:
UB thanks for all the great info. I posted on my journal and 2 times under plant problems and I get the same thing Mag deficiency.
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I know, it's either Mg or pH that's the problem.

Rust spots are many times caused by too much salts. It's hard to tell since we don't know what your NPK values are.

UB
 
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sudshead

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People go buy the book Teaming with Microbes and you will learn that a plant uses photosynthesis to release exudates into the soil which feed bacteria, fungi, etc. when the bacteria and fungi die they release nutrients that the plant uses to grow. Protozoans eat the fungi, etc which makes the process faster than waiting for the fungi, etc. to die.

You can make different kind of teas that are contain either bacteria, fungi or protozoans and add to your soil or foliar feed.


I compost all of my kitchen scraps in a 50 gallon barrel that I have laying on two old skareboards that are upside down, easy to spin. The stuff is gold. Also gather leaves in the back of the truck and mulch with the mower, 4 inch layer in my garden now. When I pull it away tons of earthworms are poking up and are in heaven.

No chemicals at all, just mother nature.

Buy the way spinout works but smartpots are sweet
 
mr.smileyface

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So can you explain more of the fertilizer part? When you water with sunshine tecnagrow10-30-20 in a soilless mix called promix phed at 6.0 to 7.0, What would happen to the ph? up or down? I flushed the 2 gallon grow bag with luke warm water to activate the Domolime and calatic lime stone. The water i use is 6.0-6.4.
The 25 gal res is mix with one cup of 10-30-20. So about two teaspoons per gallon. Now it doesnt contain calcium and there is enough in the limestones and the water. right? They are fed twice a week. And water once a week at 30 gal for 150. The water is pretty good where i come from. What would happen to my ph?
 
doogleef

doogleef

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10-30-20 is a shitty grow fertilizer. Good for bloom after the stretch but WAY too little Nitrogen for healthy growth. Don't fuss about PH in soil. Its a great buffer and if you added some hydrated lime U r good.

3-1-2 for Grow
1-3-2 for Bloom after stretch

Dynagro
 
mr.smileyface

mr.smileyface

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doogleef said:
10-30-20 is a shitty grow fertilizer. Good for bloom after the stretch but WAY too little Nitrogen for healthy growth. Don't fuss about PH in soil. Its a great buffer and if you added some hydrated lime U r good.

3-1-2 for Grow
1-3-2 for Bloom after stretch

Dynagro
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10-30-20. you dont need all those fancy ferts. I have been upkeeping my leaves. After i put azamax on them they kinda went light green. Its a soilless mix. I know how to maintain the N all you do is add some GH micro to the mix.
I know my PH is fine i was just asking ben if everything was good to go on the fert dosage.
 
MuntantLizzard

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EdGreyfox said:
Kat,

I make my living keeping track of business's costs and showing them where they are wasting money, so the idea of letting anything that's part of the "expense" of my grow go to waste is just really alien to my way of doing things. I do get where you're coming from, I just need some time to contemplate the whole idea before I can decide what to do. I've also got to factor in that the person that got me the clones and helped me decide how to organize my grow area is all into the FF stuff, and he really wants me to give it a fair shot before I decide to try something different.

I may just split the difference and do half of them with the FF and half with some of the things suggested in this thread so that I can give him something for comparison. I'm keeping a growth, watering, feeding, etc log, so this may be a good opportunity to do a comparison study for myself.
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Have you guys seen my Dyna-gro vs peters thread? i saw only a slight difference. one days growth maybe.
 
doogleef

doogleef

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1-4-2 will likely be ok after wk 4 or so of stretch. Be careful with P as too much will antagonize uptake of Mg and N.

10-30-20 sounds like an awesome bloom fert but more N would be beneficial in veg. I'm in no way saying "fancy nutes". A simple 20-20-20 will do ya just fine. As long as there is N in ample supply. Marijuana is a nitrophile.



I ordered some dynagro grow and bloom today. I might get the mag-pro and pro-tek (silicon) additives too. http://www.dyna-gro.com/
 
Jack in the Bud

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Hey Uncle Ben, (or any one else)

I was wondering if you might be able to shed some light on what might be causing the spotting on the leaves in the attached pictures.

One of my plants pretty much was showing this from the very beginning (I just figured it was born with freckles). But now it's becoming more wide spread and showing up on the fan leaves on the other plants in this grow. It's kind of silvery white in appearance and is showing up in all zones (bottom, middle and top) of some of the other plants.

These plants have never been misted or had any kind of foliar feeding. And other than a few fungus nats I'm pretty sure I don't have any kind of bug problem.

While I don't think it's life threatening I am curious as all hell about what could be causing it. Could it be a plant disease? May be fungal in nature?

The only thing these plants have seen as far as nutes go is some very light doses of Alaskan Fish Fert (5-1-1), Earth Juice Grow (2-1-1) and Earth Juice Bloom (0-3-1). I've dropped a few lower leaves from yellowing but over all I think I've got pretty good foliar health going (except for these pesky silvery white splotches). They're 80 days old and I'm guessing they have another 40 to 60 days to go.

Thanks in advance.

Jack
 

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Jack in the Bud said:
Hey Uncle Ben, (or any one else)

I was wondering if you might be able to shed some light on what might be causing the spotting on the leaves in the attached pictures.

One of my plants pretty much was showing this from the very beginning (I just figured it was born with freckles). But now it's becoming more wide spread and showing up on the fan leaves on the other plants in this grow. It's kind of silvery white in appearance and is showing up in all zones (bottom, middle and top) of some of the other plants.

These plants have never been misted or had any kind of foliar feeding. And other than a few fungus nats I'm pretty sure I don't have any kind of bug problem.

While I don't think it's life threatening I am curious as all hell about what could be causing it. Could it be a plant disease? May be fungal in nature?

The only thing these plants have seen as far as nutes go is some very light doses of Alaskan Fish Fert (5-1-1), Earth Juice Grow (2-1-1) and Earth Juice Bloom (0-3-1). I've dropped a few lower leaves from yellowing but over all I think I've got pretty good foliar health going (except for these pesky silvery white splotches). They're 80 days old and I'm guessing they have another 40 to 60 days to go.

Thanks in advance.

Jack
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That looks like thrip damage, check for little white insects.
 
doogleef

doogleef

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Looks like thrip or mite damage. Mites are much easier to spot and would probably have freaked you out long ago if present so I'm betting you have trips. Check the underside of the leaves for tiny white bugs that look like mini grains of rice. Near the veins of the leaves is where they hang out. Get some Pyrethrum spray. Fox Farms "Don't Bug Me" spray works good but there are lots of sprays on the market. Just check active ingredients. Pyrethrum, which is derived from chrysanthemum flowers, can be applied up to the day of harvest but it just wigs me out to use it that late. I stop any treatment with about 2 weeks left and mist with water to rinse. Probably no real benefit from that, just makes me feel better.
 
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